Declining of a much loved Playerworld

Codein · #1 11-16-2005, 01:05 AM

It has come to my immediate attention that a great playerworld is declining. We've all played it, and we've all loved it, and hated it. It's been home to many hack-attacks and it's been host to some of the most loved people around.

Yes, folks, I am talking about Unholy Nation.

Initial Impressions
I have noticed upon my return to Graal that the player count has been reduced to something like 12 players during the day, which is pathetic opposed to it's long gone minimum of 40 players 24/7. The maximum is barely competing with servers such as Era (Understandable), Maloria and Atlantis. Unholy Nation dominated the Server List by atleast +30 players.

Development
The reason why Maloria, Atlantis and Era are getting more and more players is because of one thing:

They are getting better.

What is UN doing? Sitting there being home to people who don't wish to PK or have fun but to chat and to argue.

The statistics on in the server message claim that the new mining system is nearly completed. That's been stuck like that for atleast a month.

There is simply not enough development going on. There is some, I've seen first hand, but not enough.

There's more argueing going on than there is developing.

Respect
Most of the time, arguements break out due to disagreements, which is understandable, it happens, but inside these disagreements is massive amounts of disrespect.

The disagreements not only are massed, but are also full of swear words and personal bashing. This makes UN a place you wouldn't want to be.

When you'd try and sort something out, you'd be totally disrespected by players amongst the arguement (See attachment)

Conclusion
In conclusion, the only way to actually overcome these problems is to replace the current management with sharp, willing managers, with enthusiastic ideals for the server.

The only way to heal this wounded server is to pick up the pieces, and work them together instead of patching them over by saying that new features are being added that UN doesn't actually need.

Damix2 · #2 11-16-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Codein

We've all played it, and we've all loved it, and hated it.

Barely played it, never loved it, always hated it.

Chris · #3 11-16-2005, 01:28 AM

Haha.. Getting desperate.

Era has ALWAYS been better than UN.

Curt1zzle · #4 11-16-2005, 01:32 AM

You were trying way too hard.

Lance · #5 11-16-2005, 01:33 AM

You, uh, do realize that the forums aren't the right place to talk about this, right?

Codein · #6 11-16-2005, 01:44 AM

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You, uh, do realize that the forums aren't the right place to talk about this, right?

Where else am I supposed to put it?
I cannot mass this out on Unholy Nation, because I will be oppressed, and then probably banned like many people before me.

Besides, this is the Playerworld Main Forum, this is about a Playerworld so therefore, how can it not be in the right place?

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You were trying way too hard.

I'm trying hard because I need to try hard.

Do you think the Playerworld Administration will help?
Björn - He'll fail to take any action
GrowlZ - He's never around
HoudiniMan - To full of himself to do anything about it
Malinko - Malinko refuses and isn't allowed to.

Unholy Nation is for the players.

Damix2 · #7 11-16-2005, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Codein

GrowlZ - He's never around

Always around.

Codein · #8 11-16-2005, 02:15 AM

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Always around.

But he's never around to take notice.

shyguy2 · #9 11-16-2005, 02:28 AM

Codein, I couldn't honestly agree more with you...

UN is slipping and the overall player count is going down
because most of the staff have stopped actually caring what goes on,
on Unholy Nation. Most of the development has stopped and players havn't seen many new things since the Overworld.... Which we were promised would expand the possibility for development, but, none has shown up...

You've got my signature. Something needs to be done.

Codein · #10 11-16-2005, 02:29 AM

Thank you for your support

Also, for those people who don't know:

To support the cause, sign the petition

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/431712043

Fogles · #11 11-16-2005, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance

You, uh, do realize that the forums aren't the right place to talk about this, right?

It's going to be, no one will do anything.

So the players will take action.

napo_p2p · #12 11-16-2005, 03:15 AM

If UN uses GS2, I can be of some help :P.

Corp1 · #13 11-16-2005, 03:16 AM

A&M Mansion is awesome though I must admit...and Events are great when they host the good ones.

pacMASTA · #14 11-16-2005, 03:26 AM

Let unholy nation die, Its already on deep life support, But its not just UN most of all graal is declining

Deek2 · #15 11-16-2005, 03:35 AM

Uhhh.

Am I missing something here?

napo_p2p · #16 11-16-2005, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deek2

Uhhh.

Am I missing something here?

That brings up a good point.

UN might be a bit 'weaker' but I think it's only because of Era's release. Plus, it has substantially grown in playercount since from the day Era released to now.

haunter · #17 11-16-2005, 03:55 AM

Damn... I'm really curious to find out what will happen to UN (As well as the whole of Graal) when Guest accounts become active.

Hrm.

Fogles · #18 11-16-2005, 04:17 AM

It use to have 200-250

Damix2 · #19 11-16-2005, 05:56 AM

Yea when Era was down, but now its back up.

osrs · #20 11-16-2005, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix2

Barely played it, never loved it, always hated it.

So do I.

TESTRETIS · #21 11-16-2005, 06:59 AM

All I have to say is: "lol" ;/ I thought this was a thread for another playerworld. I could never imagine sonething like this for UN honestly.

sage_scooby · #22 11-16-2005, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deek2

Uhhh.

Am I missing something here?

Just because its down doesnt mean its dead. And it still usually has the highest playercount. Why I dunno but it does. Also to put 2 and 2 together Era92 + UN150 Total= 242 -12 to other PWs =230 UN's playercount before new Era release.

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Originally Posted by pacMASTA

But its not just UN most of all graal is declining

426 players on from the SS totals alone, thats not counting gold hosted and private. I'd say thats still a good number. Graals never been in the thousands from what I can recall.

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Originally Posted by haunter

Damn... I'm really curious to find out what will happen to UN (As well as the whole of Graal) when Guest accounts become active.

Hrm.

Me too, but mostly UN.

Lance · #23 11-16-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Codein

Where else am I supposed to put it?

That's your problem, not mine. My best advice amounts to a forum PM to a relevant administrator.

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I cannot mass this out on Unholy Nation, because I will be oppressed, and then probably banned like many people before me.

Rightfully so. That amounts to harassment.

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Besides, this is the Playerworld Main Forum, this is about a Playerworld so therefore, how can it not be in the right place?

I don't know; perhaps it is because the Forum rules say that if you have a problem with a playerworld (or its administration), you should take it up with their staff (or if that fails, the Playerworld Administration) in private messages.

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Do you think the Playerworld Administration will help?
Björn - He'll fail to take any action
GrowlZ - He's never around
HoudiniMan - To full of himself to do anything about it
Malinko - Malinko refuses and isn't allowed to.

Oh, grand, so now you are also bashing PWA members too. For your own sake, I suggest that you delete this thread.

napo_p2p · #24 11-16-2005, 08:44 AM

Every playerworld needs one of these.

Mykel · #25 11-16-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

Every playerworld needs one of these.

Haha.

Anyway, UN isn't dead...and if it were, there is nothing that can be done about it? What are you going to do? What can be done with the exception an entire new server. And I think it has already been proven that people don't want that. Servers like Era and Mal have been out long enough to provide the graalians with a newer look at what can be done, and the playercount speaks for itself.

Codein · #26 11-16-2005, 12:48 PM

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That's your problem, not mine. My best advice amounts to a forum PM to a relevant administrator.

Look, buddy, it's my problem, yes, because I care about UN. All I'm trying to do is rack up support. You're are not helping.

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Rightfully so. That amounts to harassment.

Harrasment for noticing, caring and being strong enough to start something like this?
It's because we get put down by people like yourself, we are far too scared to show we care.

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I don't know; perhaps it is because the Forum rules say that if you have a problem with a playerworld (or its administration), you should take it up with their staff (or if that fails, the Playerworld Administration) in private messages.

Like the countless other folk who have brought this up? Also, the PWA are not allowed to interfer, and the higher administration won't interfer without the relevant support.

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Oh, grand, so now you are also bashing PWA members too. For your own sake, I suggest that you delete this thread.

Bashing them, yes, because it's fact.

I will not delete this thread because someone has to take a stand.

Darlene159 · #27 11-16-2005, 04:15 PM

UN is no where close to dying.
If you have a real problem with s PW, then make a support ticket or forum PM the relevent person.
We do not need a thread to bash a PW, its staff, or the PWA.

Remaking this thread will result in a ban, so don't do it
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