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Old 11-25-2003, 08:35 AM
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Well, ive been on graal for 5 years now, i became an expert scripter and ive done all that i could have as a regular player/staff member to help out graal. I feel my time is done, ever since the new p2p system came out a lot of the true oldbies have left, and recently everyone is leaving, i feel i have done a lot already, iwish luck to my fellow friends who still play but i think its time to pack up my graal history and open up my life to a further extent. I will never forget my graal experiences, and i will use them to help me out in any way i can. Good bye everyone, i wish you all luck.
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:43 AM
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:51 AM
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Old 11-26-2003, 01:37 AM
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Yes i know lance, there are always things to learn, i have used every command in the current script engine, i even know some commands which are comming in the script engine that jagen is currently working on. There are always things for you to learn no matter how good you may be, but i have met a lot of @$$hole staff around, especially a lot of the managers from private servers, there all @$$holes who think they can do whatever they want just because they "bought" the server, when all they did was really rent it. Ive been nat/ nat admin on over 20 servers, ive always been around to help with scripting issues and so on, during these 5 years i studied scripting and ive done a lot, i know im not the best scripter around but im close .

And on the issue of @$$hole managers, on a certain server which i use to manage, i wont say wat server, the owner (well the idiot who rented the place), he was absent for like 3 months, i was loyal to him so i didnt fire him (i was manager), i turned that server from garbage to material worth actually reviewing, and just so you guys know, the manager said "man, i dont care about the rules, we need as much staff as we can get, the more the better, because if we have more playcount then our rating go up". Its sad, and sickening for a manager to say that, well he while he was gone i turned the server upside down, he finally comes back, see's the great job i did then fires me for no apparent reason, does anyone care?, NO. I was removing all problems and i was removing staff because the server goes against the global rules, i was fixing it and the staff kept crying to the owner so i was fired for doing something correct?, that is why, i am pretty much tired from graal, not because of the global staff, but because of some stupid players. Only reason i didnt quit was to make sure that the server didnt die out, but that was the last straw when i was unrightfully fired. I think that is not right at all, its like hiring people to make your house, then killing them when they are done with the work. The globals should make sure the rules are more strict and are put to effect.
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Old 11-26-2003, 01:59 AM
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Personally, i think they should set aside a team, or spark himself should have him and his team go on each server once everyday at random times so that servers do not expect it and you guys should make sure there are no violations in progress and make sure things arnt going corrupt, because its quite rediculous, im not really gonna go complaining to the globals like most people would abou what happened to me, because i have learned that in like there are those who are worth speaking to and making friends with, and those who like to be @$$holes.
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Old 11-26-2003, 02:48 AM
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Personally, i think they should set aside a team, or spark himself should have him and his team go on each server once everyday at random times so that servers do not expect it and you guys should make sure there are no violations in progress and make sure things arnt going corrupt, because its quite rediculous, im not really gonna go complaining to the globals like most people would abou what happened to me, because i have learned that in like there are those who are worth speaking to and making friends with, and those who like to be @$$holes.
First off rules are being drafted and they will be enforced on all PWs . You never know when we are watching a PW, it is being done at random and on accounts not known to any, it is just something we are doing to improve conditions on the PWs of Graal. Ask the ones that got global banned (last Sunday) for a week on UN after being warned about their cussing in violation of the user agreement. Change will take time and you won't see drastic changes overnight, what has happened to the PWs was not created overnight nor will the solution be done overnight but rest assured we are working to resolve some of the issues as fast as we can and change will take place.

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I am sad you are leaving Graal but as time moves on most will do the same here , so good luck in life and always take care ! Life is what you make it so make it the best you possibly can..
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Old 11-26-2003, 03:44 AM
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during these 5 years i studied scripting and ive done a lot, i know im not the best scripter around but im close .
It doesn't seem intuitive for you, though. Good (or, if you prefer, "The best") scripters don't need to spend such time studying - it just clicks for them. You show an utter disregard for logic in its simplest sense as well as a tendency towards willful ignorance, and this also causes me to question your statement.
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Old 11-26-2003, 03:58 AM
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Lance, would you think before you talk, your like an annoying mutter. Your implying "dont practice, if your good it will just click on your head", and dont even try to contradict yourself over my post because thats exactly what you implied. Practice means everything, if you dont take time to read different commands and how they work then you got one messed up script, your attitude has really need some work on.

And thanks moongod, a lot of good times on graal, congradulations again on the PWA spot, im sure you will do a great job. And i wish luck for everyone else on graal.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:02 AM
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Like i said, i aint perfect, no one is, and what you said was a completely foolish comment. You msut always study and practice if you want to be good in ANYTHING, what do you think you learned how to walk, talk, work a computer, work math, take a bath, without anyone teaching you?, the skills just magically appeared?, i think not.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:10 AM
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Lance, would you think before you talk, your like an annoying mutter.
I do think before I talk; that is what separates you from me.

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Your implying "dont practice, if your good it will just click on your head",
No, I'm saying that for the truly good it does click for them.

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Practice means everything, if you dont take time to read different commands and how they work then you got one messed up script, your attitude has really need some work on.
The better a scripter you are, the less you need to practice. It's like Math - if you are good at math/logic and pay attention during class, you don't even need to do the homework to understand the concepts/applications.

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Like i said, i aint perfect, no one is, and what you said was a completely foolish comment.
Qualifying your statements would benefit you.

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You msut always study and practice if you want to be good in ANYTHING, what do you think you learned how to walk, talk, work a computer, work math, take a bath, without anyone teaching you?, the skills just magically appeared?, i think not.
Three things:

1) I've never called myself "The best bath-taker" or even "Close to being the best bath-taker"
2) You had to study (or even practice) taking baths to understand how to do so? o_O
3) I never said they didn't need to practice. I said they didn't need to study. There's a huge difference between the two.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:14 AM
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2) You had to study (or even practice) taking baths to understand how to do so? o_O
My mom taught me...


Uhm... I mean...
Err... I have to go now! :|


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Old 11-26-2003, 04:24 AM
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Again, you post without thinking, i knew you were gonna say that so im gonna say this, your so predictable. For something to click to your head u have to have studied and practiced it. So again, you write without thinking. You must learn something before you can master it
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:33 AM
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Again, you post without thinking, i knew you were gonna say that so im gonna say this, your so predictable.
Sigh, instead of combatting my points you ignore everything I say and continue to spout your own foolish half-witted insults.

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No? Studying something is not a prerequisite for learning it. I'll use another math example: Simple differentiation's a pretty easy/basic concept, but it takes some people quite a bit of studying and practicing before they understand it. Others (myself included) saw the process and immediately understood it. Decrement the power, multiply the coefficient. It's _that_ simple. However, with all its simplicity, some people didn't understand it. You would presumaby be among those people.

You don't seem to grasp that some people intuitively understand things. These people are the ones I consider to be good at whatever field they're able to grasp the concepts of so quickly. They are much more suited for such work than someone who must spend hours, days, weeks, months, years before understanding the concepts.

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Sigh. I am putting thought, effort, logic, and reasoning into my posts. You are filling them with insults and mere repetitions of your original, incorrect statement. I was right in labelling you willfully ignorant, it seems.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:38 AM
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No, see you are trying to contradict yourself over my post. See even if you understand it after one lesson, you were still taught and you still had to practice it, so either way what i said implies to whatever you may say. Its IMPOSSIBLE to learn without being taught, and the most common way of learning is for you to do the thing yourself after being shown how, im not filling my posts with insults, its just iiritating the way you get yourself deeper and deeper into the hole and yet you insist on trying to get out but you fall back down even more. (its an expression, doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand it.)
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:41 AM
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i think we all know who the expert scripter is on these forums is.


me.

check this hot little number out. took my 5 minutes.. MAX

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Old 11-26-2003, 04:43 AM
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*clap clap*, want a cookie?, this aint the thread to post that.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:44 AM
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*clap clap*, want a cookie?, this aint the thread to post that.
ZYou mean post this little beast i whipped out in 2 minutes flat?

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Old 11-26-2003, 04:45 AM
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No, see you are trying to contradict yourself over my post. See even if you understand it after one lesson, you were still taught and you still had to practice it,
You still don't understand. I'm talking about spending time studying something over and over versus grasping it the first time.

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so either way what i said implies to whatever you may say.
Actually, it doesn't. There's a difference between getting something the first time it's told to you and having to spend an inordinate amount of time studying it to understand it. You stated that the latter was required. Oh, and the word is "applies," by the way.

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Then where does all knowledge come from, if you can't learn something on your own? I'm pretty sure you can learn "The stove is hot when it's on." without someone else having to teach it to you. Merely touching the hot stove's enough.

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and the most common way of learning is for you to do the thing yourself after being shown how, im not filling my posts with insults,
Pathetic jabs at my character, then. Is that label for your insults any better?

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its just iiritating the way you get yourself deeper and deeper into the hole and yet you insist on trying to get out but you fall back down even more. (its an expression, doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand it.)
The sad thing is that your statement is far more accurate when applied to you than it is when applied to me.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:46 AM
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Then where does all knowledge come from, if you can't learn something on your own? I'm pretty sure you can learn "The stove is hot when it's on." without someone else having to teach it to you. Merely touching the hot stove's enough.
oh i learned that the hard way... maybe thats why all the kids at school call me the ugly burnt faced boy w/out genitals
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oh i learned that the hard way... maybe thats why all the kids at school call me the ugly burnt faced boy w/out genitals
lel i thought the genitals came off when a dog with rabies bit them, and thats how you learned not to play with wild dogs ?
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:51 AM
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lel i thought the genitals came off when a dog with rabies bit them, and thats how you learned not to play with wild dogs ?
that was the first incident. i sewed them back on but the burner burned the string.
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that was the first incident. i sewed them back on but the burner burned the string.
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cool. images plz ?
Im sorry. But those images have been banned by the government.
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Im sorry. But those images have been banned by the government.
of swahili!?!?!?! dam the foreign people.
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Old 11-26-2003, 05:43 AM
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Hate to see ya leave.

But, an "excellent scripter"?

I dont quite think so.
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:13 PM
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Thats not what i said mania, guess you havnt been reading, lol, besides you havnt seen my work. And Lance no, its not only applies, you can say implies also (unless i spelled it wrong, bah).
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Old 11-26-2003, 11:51 PM
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Practice your fundamentals. That is the way it is in most skill related
things. Eventually something clicks and everything just comes together.
Not just programming, but sports as well.
A kid that is fundamentally sound, but sucks skillwise may come around to
being great at what he/she does once everything comes around.
I learned that from coaching baseball.
It doesn't only apply in sports either.

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Ask the ones that got global banned (last Sunday) for a week on UN after being warned about their cussing in violation of the user agreement.
A global ban for cussing? That may be a bit too harsh don't you think?

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Human Anatomy. lol.
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Old 11-27-2003, 07:51 AM
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so I misread. But I still dont believe you were an :expert scripters" I'd have to see it to believe it.
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well then, dont ever judge anyone without knowing them or knowing there talent, i quit graal so i cant show you anything, so if you want to know my skills you must know them by other peoples words.
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