Player World hosting - Page 2

UrashimaX · #41 04-19-2003, 12:07 AM

So we're going to pay for playing on each server? That sucks...

ETD · #42 04-19-2003, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by UrashimaX
So we're going to pay for playing on each server? That sucks...

the coins would be included in the Gold subscription... you wouldn't have to pay extra
0.o'

FireFly20 · #43 04-19-2003, 05:33 AM

Honestoly i think that would bediffrent but in some watys good and some ways can be bad just depemds on how u want to look at it in perspective.

Prince Zalinto Zelin Khan

Projectshifter · #44 04-19-2003, 06:53 AM

My group will probably want one :P
I won't say names, because majority of the people know them, but one leet scripter and one leet GFX person + me, oh yeah :P It'll be ownage ;P
---Shifter

zell12 · #45 04-19-2003, 06:56 AM

If, as a player, I have to pay for anything else while playing on classic mode, I quit.

BryanluvsJulia · #46 04-19-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

the coins would be included in the Gold subscription... you wouldn't have to pay extra
0.o'

but we only get a limited amount of coin so if we run out we would have to buy more to play

ETD · #47 04-19-2003, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia

but we only get a limited amount of coin so if we run out we would have to buy more to play

yea, i suppose... but how many servers can you play?
=X
there's all the 'classic' servers, plus the 2 gold servers... i'm sure all those could keep you entertained
lol
then lets say you get 5 coins? then you can play 5 servers in addition to the classic, and gold ones
=0
i'm sure you wouldn't be bored

you just have to make sure you pick servers you'd like...

BryanluvsJulia · #48 04-19-2003, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

yea, i suppose... but how many servers can you play?
=X
there's all the 'classic' servers, plus the 2 gold servers... i'm sure all those could keep you entertained
lol
then lets say you get 5 coins? then you can play 5 servers in addition to the classic, and gold ones
=0
i'm sure you wouldn't be bored

you just have to make sure you pick servers you'd like...

how would you know it's going to work that? Maybe you would say get like 100 coins and you use 1 coin per every hour you're on one of those payed servers

ETD · #49 04-19-2003, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Subscription based mean you have to spend coins to play, each gold or vip account will receive some coins to start with, this coins will give discount to player world manager to pay monthly fees.

Well, first is what he said... you have to subscribe to the PW... and when you subscribe to something, you don't pay for each hour, or something =X

Like if you subscribe for a magizine... you pay upfront for maybe a year... then you get it for the amount of time you subscribed for... (probably till your upgrade runs out)

A.To contract to receive and pay for a certain number of issues of a publication, for tickets to a series of events or performances, or for a utility service, for example.
B.To receive or be allowed to access electronic texts or services by subscription.

Angel · #50 04-19-2003, 11:57 AM

You get coins when you sign up.

People that want to rent servers. Can pay with coins. And any player can donate coins to the owner of the playerworld so they end up never having to pay money...

Example

Jon rents a server called ServerX. His friends Donate All there Coins. Jon never has to pay cause his frends donate all there coins..

Normal players NEVER Have to pay anything extra play..

Does that clear it up?

Spark910 · #51 04-19-2003, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Angel

Jon rents a server called ServerX. His friends Donate All there Coins. Jon Never has to pay cause his frends donate all there coins..

Normal players NEVER Have to pay anything extra play..

Does that clear it up?

There, fixed that for you Angel before some fool gets.. fooled!
People its a VERY simple plan, its not hard, dont panic and make it out to be more than it is.

zell12 · #52 04-19-2003, 07:00 PM

Well, I kinda like this idea alot now.

BryanluvsJulia · #53 04-19-2003, 09:41 PM

I can see it now... Coin Scamming

Spark910 · #54 04-19-2003, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia
I can see it now... Coin Scamming

I dont see how you can scam something you never get a hold of!
But it possible to upgrade so many account and use their coins. It could work out cheaper than X a month! (I dont mean upgrade about 20accounts, but if your 2-3 short! )

davidpsy · #55 04-20-2003, 01:27 AM

So we can play any coin server we want without actualy giving that server our coins sounds leet.

BryanluvsJulia · #56 04-20-2003, 01:40 AM

Coin scam:

Owner: Hi Give me all your coins and I'll make you GP
Newb:OK here
Owner:haha sucker *ban on server*
Newb:wtf *post 50 thread on forum*

davidpsy · #57 04-20-2003, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia
Coin scam:

Owner: Hi Give me all your coins and I'll make you GP
Newb:OK here
Owner:haha sucker *ban on server*
Newb:wtf *post 50 thread on forum*

Some one has been thinking. Oh dear I really dont see how we can fix this kind of skam I guess we cant have coin system now XD. Unless OOO IDEA IDEA DONALD HAS AN IDEA!! Here is the idea, we have set up so that the coin server that you spend the most amount of time on gets your coins. This way you dont have control over who gets your coins and it gos to the server you spend the most time on. Which is probably the server you like most?

BryanluvsJulia · #58 04-20-2003, 02:03 AM

Coin scam 2:

Owner: Hi I'll make you GP if you Idle on my server for a long time so I can have your coins.
Newb:Ok *uses idle bot and idles for a long time*
Owner:haha sucker *bans*
Newb:wtf damn *post 50 thread on forum*

ZanderX · #59 04-20-2003, 02:09 AM

That's not scamming, that's corruption, and both owner and the newbie should be banned for something like that. =)

davidpsy · #60 04-20-2003, 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia
Coin scam 2:

Owner: Hi I'll make you GP if you Idle on my server for a long time so I can have your coins.
Newb:Ok *uses idle bot and idles for a long time*
Owner:haha sucker *bans*
Newb:wtf damn *post 50 thread on forum*

First of all he wouldent ban him and second he would do this a lot and surely he would get cought and be banned....

BryanluvsJulia · #61 04-20-2003, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

First of all he wouldent ban him and second he would do this a lot and surely he would get cought and be banned....

why wouldnt he ban him?If he let him stay he would tell everyone on the server this and ruin his plan and usually the newb wouldnt report it since he was using illegal idle bot and no one would believe him.

davidpsy · #62 04-20-2003, 05:54 AM

Why would he ban the newb?

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia

The newb wouldnt report it since he was using illegal idle bot and no one would believe him.

adam · #63 04-20-2003, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
- I reply all my Emails 4 time a day
- We have a support center where Tyhm, myself and some other staff answer tickets in real time.
- Stefan and Me watch forum each day
- I am available on ICQ most of the day

What do you want more ? Our direct phone number ?

No, Just regular news updates and explanations when posted release dates pass and we get nothing. And change that lame information about what VIP's get when you don't offer it yet.

BryanluvsJulia · #64 04-20-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Why would he ban the newb?

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia
If he let him stay he would tell everyone on the server this and ruin his plan

The owner bans the newbie so the newb cant tell everyone on the server the scam so the other people thats doing it wont know

Spark910 · #65 04-20-2003, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia
Coin scam 2:

Owner: Hi I'll make you GP if you Idle on my server for a long time so I can have your coins.
Newb:Ok *uses idle bot and idles for a long time*
Owner:haha sucker *bans*
Newb:wtf damn *post 50 thread on forum*

So what? Chances are you need alot of coins, if you do that, you aren't going to be getting coins from that person again. Besides just e-mail:

[email protected]

And anyway, im sure there is an option to remove your coins after you have given them!

Besides, if a PW has to do that to stay online, it shouldn't be online in the first place.

BryanluvsJulia · #66 04-20-2003, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910

So what? Chances are you need alot of coins, if you do that, you aren't going to be getting coins from that person again. Besides just e-mail:

[email protected]

And anyway, im sure there is an option to remove your coins after you have given them!

Besides, if a PW has to do that to stay online, it shouldn't be online in the first place.

right...like the newbie would go and report it to unixmad and said "HI I WAS USING ILLEGAL IDLE BOT AND GOT SCAMMED"

ETD · #67 04-21-2003, 12:19 AM

why are you guys arguing about this?

I honestly don't have anything else to say on this topic... but i'm just tired of watching this thread get filled up with nonsence

brock128 · #68 04-21-2003, 02:29 AM

Here's my two cents. What if sombody wanted to go on the rented PWs, but don't really want to go on the "official" pws? Could they get somthing like $0.25 a month to have one server, or somthing like that? Just a thought.

Also, unix, next time you read this, could you give us a price estamate for the "worst" serving and the "best" and more pricey-ish stuff?

Milkdude99 · #69 04-21-2003, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Player World Hosting system is coming soon.

My actual plan is to give all tools to manage a playerworld including:

- Disque Space between 100MB to 500MB
- Web hosting (Frontpage, file manager ... )
- Email system
- Graal server + Npcserver
- Remote control + tools to start/stop/monitor the playerworld
- CPANEL control panel to manage everything
- Billing system

The basic plan will include 100MB hard drive + Graal server but no NPCserver

The most complete plan will include 500MB + Npcserver running on a BI-Xeon computer.

Playerworld managers will choose to let the server open (still need a classic lifetime account to play), private, or subscription based.

Subscription based mean you have to spend coins to play, each gold or vip account will receive some coins to start with, this coins will give discount to player world manager to pay monthly fees.

Also each month best player world will receive a bonus of coins.

I will be interested to known who plan to open a player world and what can be the good price, payment will be done with paypal so you can group to take a player world.

I will not accept any SPAM in this thread, each message not interesting will be deleted.

Thanks for your help.

Unixmad I have a question , you covered everything here but Bandwidth usage, what kind of Bandwidth are you talking about because I could judge price by the Bandwidth usage. The Npulse site is a eCommerce site and I have many of the features you describe here (including disk space , email , CPanel is about the same as I have) and I know what the cost is on it , much depends on Bandwidth usage on my site and the cost rises sharply with the amount of use. Would it be a fair accessment to say with the Complete plan with about 50 gigs of Bandwidth would be around the $30.00 to $50.00 a month range? This should be enough for about 100+ players but since I don't have a clue what kind of Bandwidth a PW uses is why I am asking.

ETD · #70 04-21-2003, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
The Npulse site is a eCommerce site and I have many of the features you describe here ... around the $30.00 to $50.00 a month range?

since when is hosting that much?
0.o'
$50 a month is $600 a year... who the heck would pay $600 a year for this? I mean, seriously...

even $30 a month is $360 a year...

the price i have heard all along was $15 to $20 a month... that was the price that was talked about earlier, i don't see why they would need to double it...

BryanluvsJulia · #71 04-21-2003, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

since when is hosting that much?
0.o'
$50 a month is $600 a year... who the heck would pay $600 a year for this? I mean, seriously...

even $30 a month is $360 a year...

the price i have heard all along was $15 to $20 a month... that was the price that was talked about earlier, i don't see why they would need to double it...

the $15 to $20 price aren't offical. people are just assuming and $50 for 50 GB of bandwidth is reasonable but I think the amount you pay should depend on how much disk space you need and how much bandwidth you use so a playerworld for 5 players dont need all that bandwidth and can pay cheaper

Darlene159 · #72 04-21-2003, 05:04 AM

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the price i have heard all along was $15 to $20 a month... that was the price that was talked about earlier, i don't see why they would need to double it...

Noone has given a price yet, everyone is just playing the guessing game, lol

davidpsy · #73 04-21-2003, 05:15 AM

There should be no limits on band width because then someone who doesnt like you would have all his friends come on your server and crash it down by using up all the band width...

ZanderX · #74 04-21-2003, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
There should be no limits on band width because then someone who doesnt like you would have all his friends come on your server and crash it down by using up all the band width...

Honestly, you'd have to get hundreds of players on to use up 50gb in a short period of time.

BryanluvsJulia · #75 04-21-2003, 05:37 AM

each level is like 10 kb + some gfx so they would have to get 100 player run around the server and download all the gfx and levels for hours and chatting like crazy and then the owner would get alot of coins from them and he wouldnt even need to pay lol

ETD · #76 04-21-2003, 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159

Noone has given a price yet, everyone is just playing the guessing game, lol

I was talking about back when it was going to be an option for VIPs... maybe $20 wasn't official, but it was the price talked about at the time
=o

adam · #77 04-21-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

I was talking about back when it was going to be an option for VIPs... maybe $20 wasn't official, but it was the price talked about at the time
=o

If it is not an option, only for VIP's then they continue to offer all these "VIP" extra's, when in fact they are everybody extra's. Which is another really lame thing....

Spark910 · #78 04-21-2003, 11:08 AM

MoonGod. I doubt that bandwidth will be an issue here. Possible limit the player counts more, so we dont have like UN with 250 players. But limiting bandwidth with be like ghost mode, of which, didn't go down well the first time.

And about idle bot! It has no difference, you dont even have to go on that PW once at all, you only need to donate coins. And if your talking about getting into the top 3. If you cant get 200 people the correct way, you aren't getting into the top 3.

And yes, there have been no prices yet. What I dont understand is why people would want to pay $15-$20. If you all say that, Unix may think that you wouldn't mind it, and so charge it. Why don't you just say $10. And dont jump high into big prices.

Birdbird_0 · #79 04-21-2003, 11:46 AM

If the price is fair, I'd be interested in buying a server.

Spark910 · #80 04-21-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
If the price is fair, I'd be interested in buying a server.

You had one for free before, graal2001!
Anyhow.. I may do what i think hes doing. Not use it for a PW, just use it to test and basically host stuff off.