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[Nemesis]

Playerworld Managers.

Here are some simple rules for you

1) If you make a playerworld. Have a concept. Nearly finish your world. Have ALL the levels done. Your scripts and such can wait, atleast DO the scripts you CAN do offline. Make a text file, with the scripts, have the scripts listed in a file, and also include the actual script in a second file. So we have everything needed. You can actually get your world put up, without the scripts, since you don't need the fancy lights and such.

It's a DEMO, the 200 levels is a DEMO, to sell your world. You have to impress us. Saying "i'm having this, and doing that" how about you SHOW us, instead of telling, thus if we have the scripts we can see you actually went ahead and have thought of the idea, and DONE the idea.

2) If you quit as a Manager in any phase, except from it's release, the playerworld will be removed. So if you submit it, and the manager quits, the playerworld is an autofailed and flagged as an accepted world, where 50% of the levels must be changed and 70% of content must be changed.

Thus meaning if you are private/under construction, the playerworld will be removed asap, if the manager quits. NO manager changes allowed in private/under construction. Period.

3) If your world isn't nearly completed, do not submit it because UC/Private will only last for a 2-4 week period. If you cannot be done in 2-4 weeks. Then the world will be removed. Also after becoming public with your world, there will be an inspection either 2 days after or a week after it's public release. It will be inspected. Do not ask when the inspection comes, it'll just happened. If failed. It'll go into UC/Private for 1 week to fix the inspection errors. It'll be inspected again. If failed then, it'll be removed.

We are cracking down on the playerworlds, the newer ones. The older ones will have to also meet requirements that will be listed here. Questions? Comments? Add them or something. Negativity, and abuse is not tolerated. This section is only for positive / constructive ideas. If you have ideas, or conflicts, display them, but also have a SOLUTION. Not say "This is bad...don't do it" if it's bad, state proof, then give a solution!

Thanks.

[Milkdude99]

I think the existing PWs online need to be made to conform to Graal rules. ALL of them not just some. Profanity , sexual content and sexual harressment is on the rise , it needs to be addressed.

[JrTerrorist]

Well said MG, and Nemesis. Era seems to have no morals, the staff do whatever they want.. and well.. without Angel Im not seeing any athourity figures. A policeman jailed me because I refused to pay him to 'protect' my guild.. then when I threatened to report he unjailed me and signed off.

[Menace_P2P]

Era will never go down now that Angel is a PW Inspector..Era is good..but it only has like 50 lvls..or less! And its all about Gangs..Killing..and Pranking Police..what does this teach people? :O I say make a good server..no storyline needed (As UN did) and just have fun interactive events..quests..and places to hang. With this Graal will be kooler..although we do need the guns and stuff. Also what MoonGod said is true..many servers have Profanity..and Sexual stuff that PW INspectors dont catch..but players do..its kinda funny that we see it, but they dont :O

[magicbud3344]

Era is a GREAT server, it just needs some good staff now

[JrTerrorist]

No, it needs NEW staff. All thats left are corrupt #^$&#%#*%#&$*@ers

[zell12]

Era isn't great, half the graphics stolen, and it's like GTA only with people that have small bodies and big heads.
Nemesis, IM me sometime, I need to talk to you again. ;x

[JrTerrorist]

And corrupt staff!
GTA doesnt have corrupt staff! (Starts pondering about GTA4 with servers.. ::shivers:: ..)

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Menace_P2P
Era will never go down now that Angel is a PW Inspector

That has nothing to do with anything.


Also! There is a playerworld rules list, and guidelines, if Unixmad shows up again, he can publish it to the main site. Thus why I didn't describe anything for current worlds. There is a guideline for that. Until it's release we are on freeze for certain things because it's hard to enforce rules that aren't on display. It becomes a he/she said this, and everyone is confused, miscommunication and problems. Not dealing with it. The rules should be up when it's finished through the chain of inspections if it's valid and worded correctly.

Also this has nothing to do with anything...

WTH is a CareBear moderator? Did I miss anything? geezus, that freaks me out...CareBears :: shrugs in fear :: I can see hearts and moons streaking to take the evil out of me lol

[JrTerrorist]

I remember watching carebears.. *sigh*

[tlf288]

Originally posted by Menace_P2P

what does this teach people?

Wait wait wait....

We're suppose to learn something from Graal?, Wow....

[JrTerrorist]

Graal isnt to learn, its to be lamed by '1337' people or lame ****s.

[Genesis]

then if only private server can only be private for 2-4 weeks then sorry but I think Oasis and Graal2230 should be the same as well.

[JrTerrorist]

The rules dont apply to Oasis, that I know, 2230 im not sure of.

[konidias]

Oasis is like a subdivision playermanaged world of Cyberjoueurs. It's most likely going to be Gold, and it's really Stefan's decision as to whether it should be seperated or the same as other pw's.

I've been told the PWA is to have nothing to do with my playerworld. Sure, you can treat it like the rest and get it taken down from private, but why? What extravagant playerworld is going to take it's place? If it isn't broken, don't fix it. :P

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Nemesis
It's a DEMO, the 200 levels is a DEMO, to sell your world.

If I put enough effort into it, I could make a more enjoyable environment than most online playerworlds with only a single level. And what about gmaps? They're just one big level, after all. I think the rules are too strict on this stuff - level count doesn't matter if the world is playable.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


If I put enough effort into it, I could make a more enjoyable environment than most online playerworlds with only a single level. And what about gmaps? They're just one big level, after all. I think the rules are too strict on this stuff - level count doesn't matter if the world is playable.

I agree, just like the storyline thing... Storylines shouldn't even be included as part of the review points. If the server has no storyline because it is not meant to have one, it still gets a 7.5? That's -2.5 points off your review score for no reason at all.

I think people just put forth crap effort to meet the requirements. There is no way that some PW's can make 200 decent levels, which means there will be a lot of crappy levels and/or a bunch of wasted space.

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Playerworld Managers.

Here are some simple rules for you

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Thanks.

1.) Aftershock asked how long rudora will be I said 6 weeks he said ok, If you want us done in 4, AIM or Forum PM me Nem.

2.) Yes 2230 and Oasis should be treated the same, they are PWs at the moment like the rest so they shouldn't get any extra treatments.

[JrTerrorist]

But 2230 and Oasis are P2P servers, so they should be alowed to take longer because they're going to make graal more monies ;o

[zell12]

No, its not fair. Every server has potental to become a great server if they had just as much time to develop their server. I mean, almost all the playerworlds are hidden now, and it was more then a month for them. I suggest you get stright with ALL of the playerworlds.

[JrTerrorist]

Umm

Yes but..

Give Oasis more time so it can be betters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-.-

[Genesis]

it's not fair no matter what any pw can be good if they have along time like that and also all graal pw's make graal money

[zell12]

Well, all player made servers are the same.

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by zell12
No, its not fair. Every server has potental to become a great server if they had just as much time to develop their server. I mean, almost all the playerworlds are hidden now, and it was more then a month for them. I suggest you get stright with ALL of the playerworlds.

I agree, there should be a set time for all PW's

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Nemesis



WTH is a CareBear moderator? Did I miss anything? geezus, that freaks me out...CareBears :: shrugs in fear :: I can see hearts and moons streaking to take the evil out of me lol

hahah Naww someone in the Mod Sandbox tagged me with acting like a Carebear so I just took the name and used it.

Carebear = I care about Graal
Carebear = I am a Bear on the Graal Rules

[zell12]

don't you mean, Care= and Bear =?

[JrTerrorist]

O.O;;

Moon God made a mistake.. !

Anyways, whoever said that all PW's make graal money.

Classic PW's make graal 18$ richer (per person).. 2k2 makes graal like $40 richer..

[Genesis]

so it still makes money for graal does it not?

[JrTerrorist]

BUT IT MAKES MORE MONEY THAN THE OTHER!!!

[konidias]

Originally posted by Genesis
it's not fair no matter what any pw can be good if they have along time like that and also all graal pw's make graal money

Uhhh no. Just because you have a lot of time, doesn't mean your playerworld will be better. Let's have a comparison shall we?

Two playerworlds are being made, they are each given an entire year of private server access.

Playerworld "SuperLeetia" has:
An excellent development team that can make a playerworld that would rival any online rpg.

Playerworld "Mediocria" has:
A couple guys that pick their nose and couldn't make a decent playerworld even if they had the ability to stop time and work for an eternity on it.

Which server would be better a year later? Both given the same amount of time, yet it doesn't mean both will be equally good.

edit: The simple fact of the matter is, if the playerworld is boring and bland and basically just like every other playerworld already online, then it should only get limited time to be private... If a playerworld has new EVERYTHING, graphics, levels, scripts, tileset, systems, etc. I would imagine they would get more time.

[Spark910]

Originally posted by konidias


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edit: The simple fact of the matter is, if the playerworld is boring and bland and basically just like every other playerworld already online, then it should only get limited time to be private... If a playerworld has new EVERYTHING, graphics, levels, scripts, tileset, systems, etc. I would imagine they would get more time.

Your assuming that your PW has a better team, your assuming your PW can do better, your assuming that yours will be gold, your assuming that everyone else is boring, your assuming that staff on other server do nothing, your assuming that your PW is ''leet'' (What a stupid word), your assuming they cant work. Most of the people are doing good enough and can meet the 4-6week left date, and so should you, you shouldn't get any extra treament, can either Aftershock or Nem post about this please.

[Kaimetsu]

Talented teams that stand a good chance of making a good server should get more time. It's only logical; Oasis has a chance to be a very nice asset to GraalOnline, but the average in-development PW will most likely fail on all counts. It's not about fairness, it's about good resource allocation.

[Spark910]

Yeah I suppose, but they should be given more time, but not loads more, they need to look at how long they have been up and waht they have to show for it.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Spark910


Your assuming that your PW has a better team, your assuming your PW can do better, your assuming that yours will be gold, your assuming that everyone else is boring, your assuming that staff on other server do nothing, your assuming that your PW is ''leet'' (What a stupid word), your assuming they cant work. Most of the people are doing good enough and can meet the 4-6week left date, and so should you, you shouldn't get any extra treament, can either Aftershock or Nem post about this please.

I AM ASSUMING NOTHING. Like I said before, Stefan believes Oasis is good enough to stay private, so that is all. I am only stating factual information. Who is benefiting from having Oasis shut down? Not me that's for sure. Not Stefan, and surely not any other pw in development because it's not like I'm filling some ever crucial server space that could be used by some other extraordinary playerworld.

Sure, shut down Oasis, then Oasis will be dead. Where is the logic in this? Oasis hasn't followed the path of a normal playerworld since the beginning, why should it start now? I didn't go through the PWA, Stefan put it up, Stefan likes it, and Stefan thinks it has potential. I can't finish Oasis in one month's time. I'm trying to make the best server ever to emerge from Graal. Want me to release Oasis 4 weeks from now with everything half-a**ed and incomplete/buggy? I don't.

You can't rush perfection. You might think Oasis is no different than other PW's... and if you do, I laugh at your poor judgement.

Hmmm let's see... boring playerworld with a bunch of 2k1 stuff and all the same old bodies and tiles, or a new playerworld with all new stuff, and brand new tiles and bodies?

By all means, if there is a playerworld that is better than mine and farther in development, then I will be willing to get shut down in 4 weeks, but I don't see that playerworld, so I don't see why I need a time limit.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Spark910
Yeah I suppose, but they should be given more time, but not loads more, they need to look at how long they have been up and waht they have to show for it.

Not really accurate... I've been working on 2k2 as gamemaster for 3 months so Oasis made little progress at that time. I'm helping Graal in one way or another, and that is all I care about.

[Spark910]

Originally posted by konidias


Not really accurate... I've been working on 2k2 as gamemaster for 3 months so Oasis made little progress at that time. I'm helping Graal in one way or another, and that is all I care about.

Okay then, I just think everyone should get the same sort of treatment, but thats just my opinion. No need to laugh at my judgment, I haven't seen any of oasis so I cant give a judgment.

Hmmm let's see... boring playerworld with a bunch of 2k1 stuff and all the same old bodies and tiles, or a new playerworld with all new stuff, and brand new tiles and bodies?

Considering ''I AM NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING'''' Just to let you know, thats an assumption.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Spark910


Okay then, I just think everyone should get the same sort of treatment, but thats just my opinion. No need to laugh at my judgment, I haven't seen any of oasis so I cant give a judgment.



Considering ''I AM NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING'''' Just to let you know, thats an assumption.

How is that an assumption exactly? I know the pw's being developed that are under private servers, and they aren't that impressive. It's an opinion, not an assumption, I'm not assuming it, I know what there is, and I formed my opinion of it.

[Spark910]

Yeah ok, I do agree with you that majority are not worth it. And yeah I doa gree Oassi will be good, but I jsut didn't liek you saying that all UC PWs are 2001 rip-offs, as some have put alot of hard work in.

[Darlene159]

Gosh Konidias, I like you and respect you, but you are coming off all full of yourself now...you make it sound like noone is making a PW better than yours...how could you know that? Have you seen every single project being made?
The thing that is really upsetting is that some of these people making these PW's are trying very hard, and working very hard...in the end, it may not be the greatest thing in the world, and they get bashed horribly. Then there are the other ones that are just doing it to get something up to feel all powerful (which they arent). Some of them stay in private for awhile, get put up, then change the whole blasted thing. People complain about it, but nothing is done about it.
From what I have seen, people come on these boards, and say their PW is going to be the greatest thing ever, and hype it up to a large degree (which is a mistake), then when it does go up, the players are disappointed.
I believe that the ones that will make it will be the ones where the creater of it does Levels, scripts, gfx all very well...lets face it, there are very little good staff now, they quit when p2p happened, and the really good ones are helping stefan, and there are way too many PW's online for the good staff that are out there.
I applaud each and every person who makes a real effort in making a PW, whether it makes it or not.

[zell12]

Konidias, go make your playworld offline, and then resubmit it and then finish your tinkering. There is no excuse for why you can't do it offline like all the other servers done.