Mean people.

Cubes · #1 11-30-2009, 08:58 PM

I think the mean, vulgar, stuck up and racist comments that people make is what keeps Graal alive and compels people to log on each day for a laugh or just to argue. Discuss.

Darlene159 · #2 11-30-2009, 09:11 PM

I sure hope not, but I'm sure that is true for some, even though the Graal rules forbid most of what you said.

Felix_Xenophobe · #3 11-30-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubes

I think the mean, vulgar, stuck up and racist comments that people make is what keeps Graal alive and compels people to log on each day for a laugh or just to argue. Discuss.

Pretty much what keeps this game alive.

Cubes · #4 11-30-2009, 09:21 PM

Honestly, it's what makes me log on. Just to listen to the foul things people have to say.

Soala · #5 11-30-2009, 09:47 PM

It's true for some servers, but I've never seen this happen on servers like UN for exemple.
Only funny jokes without insults, nothing else. Even the victim laugh.
But I do recall free insults on Era or Zodiac.

Felix_Xenophobe · #6 11-30-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alexandralove

It's true for some servers, but I've never seen this happen on servers like UN for exemple.
Only funny jokes without insults, nothing else. Even the victim laugh.
But I do recall free insults on Era or Zodiac.

It happens on UN all the time wtf at least when I'm there.

Cubes · #7 11-30-2009, 09:59 PM

He must get on when they have a player count of like 4 and it's only people idling on RC.

Tigairius · #8 11-30-2009, 11:13 PM

Going to have to disagree here. I think those people are the people who keep the other rude, mean people on the game. The nice people don't stay for those people, in fact, the nice people are driven away by these people.

BigBear3 · #9 11-30-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Going to have to disagree here. I think those people are the people who keep the other rude, mean people on the game. The nice people don't stay for those people, in fact, the nice people are driven away by these people.

I'm going to agree with Tig here. I tend to only stick around on GK and I don't really have a problem with anyone on there. I'm nice to people. Especially my Zormite crew.

cbk1994 · #10 11-30-2009, 11:40 PM

It depends. It's not the "mean people" who are keeping Graal alive, but no one can admit to not laughing at some of the things the "mean people" do. Graal isn't surviving off them, but it wouldn't be the same without them, either, I guess (imagine the internet without 4chan).

Switch · #11 11-30-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alexandralove

It's true for some servers, but I've never seen this happen on servers like UN for exemple.

Yeah people get scared of the fearsome GP.
I, on the other hand, have been warned numerous times and jailed a few times for it. Mostly by Shimmy, he hates my guts.
And Streety told me I was going to be in a lot of trouble soon.

Crono · #12 12-01-2009, 12:10 AM

Disagree with all. No server has a large number of players dedicated to racist trolling, it's just that your brain tends to remember these instances more than the normal, nicer players. However, any attempt to try to turn Graal's community into a carebear daycare will be met with failure.

Hiro · #13 12-01-2009, 12:29 AM

frankly, the core community of graal's player base is most definitely mean because sparring is a competitive game with skill involved (in non-laggy sparring anyways) and people's egos are very centralized on graal - you have a specific look, guild, family, creations, etc. so groups will be at odds with each other, which leads to meanness. course on the developing side, that's a much more "council" like setting where it's less competitive in the sense of beating someone; it's more artsy and you don't use a sword

both are required, though i'd say the "mean" core players of graal are more significantly important

Rufus · #14 12-01-2009, 12:40 AM

There's a difference between being "mean" and having competitive banter.

Hiro · #15 12-01-2009, 12:46 AM

i agree, and graal most certainty is not only full of "friendly" competitive **** talking, that's only the fuel for the fire

with less people nowadays i suppose the "mean" aspect has grown older with players making it happen less often, but it most definitely happens

maximus_asinus · #16 12-01-2009, 01:22 AM

Racism? No. Everything else? Yes.

When I logged on, I only did so to joke around. Sometimes the jokes were vulgar. I liked the banter between players. It is part of the community, whether you like it or not. If everything was 'carebeared', then nobody would login at all.

Stephen · #17 12-01-2009, 02:00 AM

I, for one, welcome our new mean overlords.

Darlene159 · #18 12-01-2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Going to have to disagree here. I think those people are the people who keep the other rude, mean people on the game. The nice people don't stay for those people, in fact, the nice people are driven away by these people.

100 percent agree

Door · #19 12-01-2009, 03:07 AM

I agree with this too. But it doesn't happen often, because we don't get new players often. As far as the current playerbase goes, however, they obviously like the environment, and when things die down people tend to log off fast.

Stephen · #20 12-01-2009, 03:09 AM

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100 percent agree

It's a shame, I can think of a prime example of an excellent player who quit because of how poorly other players behaved; Anastasia on Graal Kingdoms.

OasaTor_PK · #21 12-01-2009, 03:14 AM

graal is only fun if poeple are mean so i can stick up for noobs 2 look cool online. and say bad stuff to make old ladies feel powerful.

Darlene159 · #22 12-01-2009, 03:14 AM

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It's a shame, I can think of a prime example of an excellent player who quit because of how poorly other players behaved; Anastasia on Graal Kingdoms.

I can think of several, but I wont mention names. I was almost one of them, and I dont play that often because of it.

Elizabeth · #23 12-01-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I can think of several, but I wont mention names. I was almost one of them, and I dont play that often because of it.

lol

Cubes · #24 12-02-2009, 04:31 PM

How fun would Graal be if everyone was friendly? Not very.

Crono · #25 12-02-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubes

How fun would Graal be if everyone was friendly? Not very.

Wouldn't be fun if every other person was a complete douchebag either.

Dnegel · #26 12-02-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubes

How fun would Graal be if everyone was friendly? Not very.

It would be fun if atleast 50 % are nice, but ofc there's always fun to find people like Mog. LOL

Door · #27 12-03-2009, 12:22 AM

Online games are just communities and thus reflections of irl populations. So it's a little easier to be mean when the person isn't standing in front of you. Welcome to the Internet. Now deal.

maximus_asinus · #28 12-03-2009, 04:00 AM

Fashionable People

Stephen · #29 12-03-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Door

Online games are just communities and thus reflections of irl populations. So it's a little easier to be mean when the person isn't standing in front of you. Welcome to the Internet. Now deal.

You can still bully people online it's just different.

Door · #30 12-03-2009, 04:06 AM

Why thank you for that.. uh, eloquent and surely relevant (somehow?) comment of yours, Stephen.

Stephen · #31 12-03-2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Door

Online games are just communities and thus reflections of irl populations. So it's a little easier to be mean when the person isn't standing in front of you. Welcome to the Internet. Now deal.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

You can still bully people online it's just different.

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Why thank you for that.. uh, eloquent and surely relevant (somehow?) comment of yours, Stephen.

I don't think someone would be more aggressive online than they would be in real life - although, perhaps, more opportunistic; their personalities would not suddenly change because they are on the internet.

KrimsonSky · #32 12-03-2009, 04:33 AM

Graal used to be fun, when I got to play in my own personal environment. But sadly, I have been forced away by these "mean people" you speak of. :[ Graal needs less mean and abusive players, and more loving and peaceful characters <3 :]

Imperialistic · #33 12-03-2009, 05:29 AM

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:[ Graal needs less mean and abusive players, and more loving and peaceful characters <3 :]

Hah, most players have grown up (or at least the mean ones) and somehow their ego's rised too, mostly thinking that they're oldbies and are a big shot in this community.

Door · #34 12-03-2009, 05:35 AM

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I don't think someone would be more aggressive online than they would be in real life - although, perhaps, more opportunistic; their personalities would not suddenly change because they are on the internet.

I agree with you; it was basically the point I was making in the first place.

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Originally Posted by KrimsonSky

Graal used to be fun, when I got to play in my own personal environment. But sadly, I have been forced away by these "mean people" you speak of. :[ Graal needs less mean and abusive players, and more loving and peaceful characters <3 :]

Whiner

Imperialistic · #35 12-03-2009, 05:37 AM

THIS THREAD EXCLUDES DOOR FROM THEIR POSTS.

Because Door is the innocent, charming young lady.

cbk1994 · #36 12-03-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I don't think someone would be more aggressive online than they would be in real life - although, perhaps, more opportunistic; their personalities would not suddenly change because they are on the internet.

Online it's a lot easier to forget that the people you're talking to are real people, and it's definitely easier to be more aggressive, though changing whole personalities might be a bit much.

Door · #37 12-03-2009, 05:56 AM

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Online it's a lot easier to forget that the people you're talking to are real people, and it's definitely easier to be more aggressive, though changing whole personalities might be a bit much.

Like Stephen said, it has to do with opportunity rather than a complete about-face. Some e-bullies appear sweet as pie irl, just because they are cowards who act out their cruel desires only while shielded by anonymity. Internet is rife with this type, but there are also plenty of people who act in the opposite manner. People who have a hard time expressing their feelings in person will put on a cold exterior, but open up and show compassion online. Regardless, my original point was that the Internet community really is just about the same as the irl one--it takes all types to make the world go 'round. If you want to 'clean things up' you can either force it (and risk making the community highly uncomfortable and rebellious, case in point: These forums), or you can lead by example both irl and online, encouraging not forcing people to act in a manner you find appropriate. As my mom always told me "You often have to change someone's heart before you can change their mind."

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THIS THREAD EXCLUDES DOOR FROM THEIR POSTS.

Because Door is the innocent, charming young lady.

what are you talking about loon