server rotation

[BlueMelon]

Exausted, after reading all these post of why we dont like your idea do you still feal the same way with your idea?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Exausted, please stop accusing people of trolling just because they disagree.
I do not agree with your idea at all. I do not think forcing people to play servers that they dont want to play will help Graal in any way.
Updates and advertisement is most important in my opinion.

I would be upset if I were in the middle of something on a server, and my time were up.
That would make me not want to play anymore.
I have servers that I like, and those are what I play.
If I see something advertised, I might check it out.

Why didn't you ban him for that spam thread?

[Cloven]

Create more ridiculous threads please.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes* once again, i never said they had to be forced onto a specific server. locked out of UN? go to npulse for a bit, it's a classic server. locked out of Era? they have guns in UN CS, go there for a bit.

So now the idea has changed from getting the player to switch servers, to now locking them out so they can't go back for 5 hours? UN does not compare to the experience you may have found on Era, or N-Pulse.

Most likely if they can't play the server they want, when they want. They are just going to exit Graal and go do something else.

If people want to play the other servers, they should have to go their naturally whether it be an advertisement or a news update that convinces them to go visit and try it out.

Just because you enjoy classic style gameplay on one server doesn't mean you're going to like it on another. In fact in the case of classic styled server it's the community that makes the server and making people switch servers would scramble up the community, most likely for the worst in most cases.

As Darlene said above, what if you're doing something important on the current server and it decides HEY TIME TO LOCK YOU OUT. Now you're interrupted and most likely pissed. A good example of this is when you're playing a game and your controller gets unplugged and the game doesn't pause, end result you die in-game.

Also even a global posted a joke in your thread, your support for this idea is minimal to none. The cons of the idea heavily outweigh the pros, and I think we've spelled it out for you enough.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

large playercounts attract other players if noobs were sent off to other servers (like the dead/dying ones), they wouldn't automatically think UN is the best because of it's player count.

There's a reason why the top 3 servers have the playercounts they do, and it's not because "LOL THEY HAD HIGH PLAYERCOUNTS BEFORE".

[Galdor]

wow I'm quite amazed Exausted, my mind wouldn't even be able to come up with something like that :O

[Felix_Xenophobe]

o wow

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

5/10 rating, the trolling just keeps getting better in this thread.

How in the hell was that trolling? XD! I don't think you even know what trolling is, but if you're not serious, then congratulations on trolling all these people.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

They see me rollin', they hatin'.

DAMNIT TIGAIRIUS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO DO THAT except i was going to say "your eyes must be exhausted "


I HAD IT ALL READY AND EVERYTHING









ontopic: ya this isn't that great of an idea but some of u guys r being jerks which is rly unneeded

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

DAMNIT TIGAIRIUS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO DO THAT except i was going to say "your eyes must be exhausted "


I HAD IT ALL READY AND EVERYTHING

o.o...he posted that quite awhile ago liz...are you sure? You sound exhausted, go get some sleep x3

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

o.o...he posted that quite awhile ago liz...are you sure? You sound exhausted, go get some sleep x3

i haven't slept in two days

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Here, I'll play your game. You say it is the same 5-10 people opposing you. I tend to stay out of things which means I haven't opposed you, and I admit I don't like this idea.

I'll participate in a "mature" discussion, but don't post things such as," I rate your trolling a 2.5 out of 10." If you post things such as that you are just proving you can't even participate in the mature discussion you so strongly advocate. If you want anyone to treat you maturely, you must act maturely, even if you won't always be treated the same way.

i only rate people's trolling when they ARE trolling.

Please post the main positive ideas of this idea in bullet form. After posting the positive ideas, post any negatives sides (Also in bullet form) and explain why the positive ideas outweigh the negative ideas. The reason I ask you do this is because your current method of posting the points is convoluted and I have difficulty deciphering which points you most strongly advocate.

i already did this earlier in the thread, except with - to outline the individual points

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

this dude :"OmGZ! Theyrre given 1029k ep on UN FO FREE!!"

The other dude : sorry im like "Practicly banned" for 5 hours.

People would miss alot of some nice server activities to
And i dont like your thread
I rate it a 1.47/10

you make a really good point. hopefully stefan can get around this by taking requests by server managers to temporarily keep the server unlocked during the day of the event.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Exausted, please stop accusing people of trolling just because they disagree.
I do not agree with your idea at all. I do not think forcing people to play servers that they dont want to play will help Graal in any way.

i'm not randomly giving trolling ratings to everyone that disagrees. all i do is rate them whenever they mock me, or make sarcastic posts.

I would be upset if I were in the middle of something on a server, and my time were up.
That would make me not want to play anymore.
I have servers that I like, and those are what I play.
If I see something advertised, I might check it out.

yes, i know but this idea would improve graal if people would get over themselves and just go with the flow. don't you want to see graal improve?

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

Exausted, after reading all these post of why we dont like your idea do you still feal the same way with your idea?

because no one has really told me why it's a bad idea. there are people that say they'd quit, they wouldn't like it, but losing a few players isn't that big of a deal compared to how great it'd be for the game

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

So now the idea has changed from getting the player to switch servers, to now locking them out so they can't go back for 5 hours? UN does not compare to the experience you may have found on Era, or N-Pulse.

n-pulse is pretty much UN, except smaller playercount, different items. both of them are only alive because of events (fighting over mass messages also keeps UN alive though)

Most likely if they can't play the server they want, when they want. They are just going to exit Graal and go do something else.

i think that you should make this a poll on zodiac:
If you were locked out of a server and forced to play any other one for a few hours before coming back, would you quit Graal?

Just because you enjoy classic style gameplay on one server doesn't mean you're going to like it on another. In fact in the case of classic styled server it's the community that makes the server and making people switch servers would scramble up the community, most likely for the worst in most cases.

i agree with the bolded, but it looks like most graalians have siwtched servers from time to time anyway.

As Darlene said above, what if you're doing something important on the current server and it decides HEY TIME TO LOCK YOU OUT. Now you're interrupted and most likely pissed. A good example of this is when you're playing a game and your controller gets unplugged and the game doesn't pause, end result you die in-game.

yes, i know this is a problem. i've said before there are more pros then cons to this idea. change won't happen over night.. but if stefan actually implemented this, you would slowly see graal getting better. developers would constantly be inspired to make new and better stuff because they'd keep getting an influx of new players

Also even a global posted a joke in your thread, your support for this idea is minimal to none. The cons of the idea heavily outweigh the pros, and I think we've spelled it out for you enough.

i didn't see the global disagreeing with me, though..

[xnervNATx]

holy heck wall of text alert. sry but taking graal srsly isnt good for u exhausted

[Exhausted]

1/10 rating, laura.

anyway, @ fowlplay4
i forgot to mention that if people know they have a time limit (like how trials have a time limit showing for their gameplay before ob mode sets in) they won't do things that'll take more time then the amount of time they have left

like if i see i have 10 minutes left of zodiac, i'm not going to go to pyras to fight mumra, but if i had 5 hours left, then yeah i would

Originally Posted by Galdor

wow I'm quite amazed Exausted, my mind wouldn't even be able to come up with something like that :O

i forgot to respond to this. thanks for your support, i'm glad someone finally is open minded enough to agree. whenever i can rep someone again, i'll give you a positive one.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

like if i see i have 10 minutes left of zodiac, i'm not going to go to pyras to fight mumra, but if i had 5 hours left, then yeah i would.

It's bad enough that trials gameplay is already limited like this, but now this would affect everyone, not just non-paying players.

It would actually limit and ruin gameplay on the servers like observer mode already does.

In fact why don't you start a poll and see how many people like or dislike the idea.

[Crono]

Notice how he tactically skipped my last post.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

It's bad enough that trials gameplay is already limited like this, but now this would affect everyone, not just non-paying players.

It would actually limit and ruin gameplay on the servers like observer mode already does.

In fact why don't you start a poll and see how many people like or dislike the idea.

it wouldn't ruin gameplay. you see, what my idea will do is improve servers. so you play a server for a few hours, and then you're locked out, and then you just go play another enjoyable server for a few hours, then you're locked out of that one, and you go back to the other server and it's just life as usual

you make my idea sound really bad even though it's n ot

Originally Posted by Crono

Notice how he tactically skipped my last post.

it's because you think graal is WoW

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

it wouldn't ruin gameplay. you see, what my idea will do is improve servers. so you play a server for a few hours, and then you're locked out, and then you just go play another enjoyable server for a few hours, then you're locked out of that one, and you go back to the other server and it's just life as usual

It will improve servers how exactly? By kicking out players in the midst of an event because his 5 hours are over? By Decreasing the player count every once in a while because the 5 hours of some other players were over as well?
For some people, there are no "other enjoyable servers". You can't send Era players to UN saying they got some CS clone or whatever. You can't send them to Zone because that's just completely different anyway. Life is not "as usual" when you are forced to go somewhere else every 5 hours.

you make my idea sound really bad even though it's not

I suggest you let the others decide whether your idea is bad or not. Others as in all the other forum members and possibly also Graal Online management members around here.
I don't care if you "studied" psychology or whatever and think you can predict the mass of players. Obviously you can't, and you don't seem to be aware that your idea as it is now would be a pretty stupid "gameplay" addition interfering with lots of things.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

it wouldn't ruin gameplay. you see, what my idea will do is improve servers. so you play a server for a few hours, and then you're locked out, and then you just go play another enjoyable server for a few hours, then you're locked out of that one, and you go back to the other server and it's just life as usual

Your idea assumes that every server they play will be enjoyable, and that simply isn't the case with Graal.

It definitely does not improve servers either.

Now I still think you need to make this into a poll so the numbers can effectively show how well the idea is liked or disliked. Considering our posts aren't getting through to you.

Here I even asked players of Zodiac over shout channel (unfiltered).

Graal_Z: Welcome to Zodiac's Shout Channel fowlplay4_3!
fowlplay4_3: Alright, how many of you would like if you were required to play a different server every 5 hours or so?
Graal_Z: skaterkid (60 Freelance): that means i can only play zod 5 hours at a time?
fowlplay4_3: From what I've heard, yes. In fact you might have to play another server for 5 hours.
Graal_Z: Delteria_GhostMarine (60 Bladeweaver): fck that
Graal_Z: ketsomaru (60 Runeprowler): wat
Graal_Z: Obedience (60 Thief): huh?
Graal_Z: MightyZeus (60 Assassin): That's dumb
Graal_Z: Obedience (60 Thief): whats dumb?...
Graal_Z: MightyZeus (60 Assassin): 5 Hours go to another server thing.
Graal_Z: xXxJeBusxXx (60 Thief): looking for a druid and a thief for abraxis
Graal_Z: skaterkid (60 Freelance): Paying very well for bm of aero/proph
fowlplay4_3: Alright once again, how many of you would like if you were required to play a different server every 5 hours or so?
Graal_Z: skaterkid (60 Freelance): NOT ME
Graal_Z: jayrock205 (50 Druid): not me!
Graal_Z: Obedience (60 Thief): Why would that happen?
Graal_Z: ketsomaru (60 Runeprowler): I dont generally stay on zod for 5 hours anyway... idk
fowlplay4_3: It wouldn't I just need some player responses
Graal_Z: Obedience (60 Thief): I wouldn't like it, but i'd just go to era.
Graal_Z: jayrock205 (50 Druid): no.
Graal_Z: MightyZeus (60 Assassin): Is it even possible to stay on here for 5 hours?
Graal_Z: MightyZeus (60 Assassin): I'd go insane.
Graal_Z: ketsomaru (60 Runeprowler): ^ no
Graal_Z: DarkGustave (60 All Star): I COULD DO IT!
fowlplay4_3: Regardless the time could be lower, 5 is just an example.
Graal_Z: ketsomaru (60 Runeprowler): Unless idling is included, then yes!
Graal_Z: DarkGustave (60 All Star): i'd just have to be reallllyyy bored.
Graal_Z: ketsomaru (60 Runeprowler): i mean then no
Graal_Z: ketsomaru (60 Runeprowler): wtf

None of those statements are positive towards the idea.

[Darlene159]

This is what I think.
If I am going to pay to play/develop, I do not want to be kicked off servers I decide to play/develop.
It's a bad idea no matter how you look at it.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by Crow

It will improve servers how exactly? By kicking out players in the midst of an event because his 5 hours are over? By Decreasing the player count every once in a while because the 5 hours of some other players were over as well?
For some people, there are no "other enjoyable servers". You can't send Era players to UN saying they got some CS clone or whatever. You can't send them to Zone because that's just completely different anyway. Life is not "as usual" when you are forced to go somewhere else every 5 hours.

a pretty irrelevant post. i already told you how it'll improve servers. when i said "life as usual", i mean whenever they are able to return to the server they want to play the most.

I suggest you let the others decide whether your idea is bad or not. Others as in all the other forum members and possibly also Graal Online management members around here.
I don't care if you "studied" psychology or whatever and think you can predict the mass of players. Obviously you can't, and you don't seem to be aware that your idea as it is now would be a pretty stupid "gameplay" addition interfering with lots of things.

my idea is pretty good, no one has proved to me that it's a bad idea. there have been good points raised but like i said earlier.. for every idea, some people like it, others don't. in this case, more people would benefit in the long-run then not. as for the bolded part, see below.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Your idea assumes that every server they play will be enjoyable, and that simply isn't the case with Graal.

It definitely does not improve servers either.

Now I still think you need to make this into a poll so the numbers can effectively show how well the idea is liked or disliked. Considering our posts aren't getting through to you.

Here I even asked players of Zodiac over shout channel (unfiltered).

Obedience (60 Thief): I wouldn't like it, but i'd just go to era.
^ this is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. he would accept it and go to another server, and that server, with a nice variation of servers would be inspired to develop more efficiently. thanks for that, fowlplay.

as for making a poll, how do i make a poll in a thread already created? i don't want to make a thread just for a poll about this and have two threads going on about the same thing

Originally Posted by Darlene159

This is what I think.
If I am going to pay to play/develop, I do not want to be kicked off servers I decide to play/develop.
It's a bad idea no matter how you look at it.

well like i said earlier, this system would do more good then harm. sure, it would annoy/anger some players, but there are a LOT of benefits. maybe this idea could just be put in for a couple months, and then when the servers finally increase in quality exponentially, stefan could let you play a server as much as you want

see guys, you don't have to insult me and put a negative spin on my threads to have a civilized discussion

[Hiro]

i want to write a post that can tell exhausted, in a way that he understand and respects completely, that his ideas are completely useless in helping graal in any way; that no one has ever supported any of his ideas and probably his further ideas since they are so unconventional and outlandish, and that they will never, ever be implemented into graal. i'd also want to write the post in such a way that it is not degrading way towards exhausted personally, nor post in a way that conveys that he should stop posting - only that he should really think through on these ideas before posting them, looking very closely at the negative affects his ideas would create and the trouble it would be in implementing them, that he should learn how to take constructive criticism instead of assuming everyone is out to make fun of his ideas, branding them a "troll" instead of realizing that people are just posting, and that if he would admit his mistakes and admit that his idea really won't help graal at all, that the rest of the forums would be a lot more accepting and gentle in the way that they disagree with any of his further ideas

however, i don't have the time nor the patience to type such a post out, and i highly doubt exhausted cares anyways. well on the way to a double red-rep (if that's even possible)

[fowlplay4]

I figure the only way to make a poll would to create the new thread with the poll and have Darlene merge the two threads together for you.

But back to the topic..

There are NO solid benefits, only short-term for maybe a day of playing then the player will quit because he's sick of not having any freedoms of which server he can play only that he has to make a choice for 5 hours, then suffer another 5 on a server that he may or may not enjoy.

There is no sense implementing this idea, because there's already people who change servers when they want to play something else.

Like I said before, it should be the Management of the servers that make the effort to advertise, provide updates and get their server out there. Not by some sort of lockout system.

[Soala]

Someone close this thread, looks like everyone is gonna reply forever x_X

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by Hiro

...that no one has ever supported any of his ideas...

......only that he should really think through on these ideas before posting them, looking very closely at the negative affects his ideas would create and the trouble it would be in implementing them.....

....that he should learn how to take constructive criticism instead of assuming everyone is out to make fun of his ideas...

people have supported my ideas, even someone earlier in this thread. i do think about my ideas before posting them.. why do you think diferently?

i don't randomly label people a troll when they disagree with me. i've said this like 10 times. sometimes i get flamed/mocked - that's trolling.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Like I said before, it should be the Management of the servers that make the effort to advertise, provide updates and get their server out there.

i completely agree with you there. hmm how about

you have 5 hours of play time on your favorite server and then you have to play for 2-3 hours on other servers... or 8 hours on your favorite, and 4-5 hours on another before you can go back to your favorite, and then managers can advertise so people will want to spend most of their time on that server and keep coming back after they're locked out and then let back in..

Originally Posted by alexandralove

Someone close this thread, looks like everyone is gonna reply forever x_X

if this thread gets out of hand, darlene will close it

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

people have supported my ideas, even someone earlier in this thread.

Where? Only one person said he wouldn't have thought of it himself, not that he supported your idea.
To be honest, no one has supported it.

[papajchris]

i try not to be rude to people, but Exhausted, you are not the brightest crayon in the box. How does making players go to another server solve anything? Like many said above, i'd just log off graal and go take a nap or watch a movie. Could you imagine if say xbox made you switch games every 5 hours? It sounds so stupid that I can't even think of a word to describe you idea. Maybe "super stupid?" You lost alot of credibility if you even had any in my eyes!

[fowlplay4]

I still don't believe a player should have to decide how long they want to play on one server, and have to be kicked or feel like they're doing a laborious chore by going on another server for a few hours vs playing the server they wanted to.

The only thing that could be taken from this idea is getting people to explore the different servers of Graal, but instead of by force provide some sort of bonus or prize to spending time on many different servers which would maybe give them some incentive to try something new.

Even then that is something that the management of each server should think about, creating updates that would attract new players.

I.e: If you haven't played <Servername>, why not come and try it now! We are giving away <Small Fun Prize> to everyone that logs on!

It's not something you can really do weekly but it doesn't hurt to try and do it every month.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The only thing that could be taken from this idea is getting people to explore the different servers of Graal, but instead of by force provide some sort of bonus or prize to spending time on many different servers which would maybe give them some incentive to try something new.

This would be doable if the servers would cooperate more. The quality of the game would be raised as a whole and ideally would attract new players (and subsequently new developers).

That said, it really makes me wonder sometimes...

[Skyld]

How simply can I put this?

It won't happen.

When you pay for a game, you play the servers you want to play on. Playercount does not need "spreading" because it already works that the good servers get the most players.

If a server doesn't have any players, it means that they should improve that server to attract more players.

It's as simple as that. Sorry.

Won't happen.

[Liberated]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

what makes you think you can speak for the entire graal population?

Most of graals population is posting in your thread, and dissagreeing with it.

[Vima]

and what would happend to the UC servers?
Would I be forced to play on Graal Ghetto for 5 hours to be able to develop on AEON. Haha, doesn't make any sence.

I don't know if you are kidding or what, but I have to agree with Crono.

Originally Posted by Crono

OH MY GOD LOL.caps

It's as if his ideas get worse and worse.

[Soala]

Exhausted, just stop posting and trying to defend yourself.
You have ideas and all, but as you can see we all disagree with this one, so just stop trying to justify yourself, this will never happen anyway

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by alexandralove

Exhausted, just stop posting and trying to defend yourself.
You have ideas and all, but as you can see we all disagree with this one, so just stop trying to justify yourself, this will never happen anyway

Do you honestly believe he thinks the idea is good? No he doesn't, the whole point of this thread and the other threads he has made is to annoy the people posting in the threads.

[Liberated]

Originally Posted by cyan3

Do you honestly believe he thinks the idea is good? No he doesn't, the whole point of this thread and the other threads he has made is to annoy the people posting in the threads.

I really hope thats the case, because otherwise i really must start having doubts about his sanity.


furthermore,
exhausted, you keep saying that there are more good sides then bad sides to this idea, yet everyone has dissagreed with it, and given reasons for it. Yes you keep saying that is has more good sides, but i have not seen you name them yet.

[BlueMelon]

Originally Posted by Skyld

How simply can I put this?

It won't happen.

When you pay for a game, you play the servers you want to play on. Playercount does not need "spreading" because it already works that the good servers get the most players.

If a server doesn't have any players, it means that they should improve that server to attract more players.

It's as simple as that. Sorry.

Won't happen.

He has Spoken.

[Scary_Sock]

Originally Posted by Crono

OH MY GOD LOL.caps

It's as if his ideas get worse and worse.

Agreed.

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Didn't this guy said ''I quit'' a few days ago..?
I don't want him to be like me, always saying I QUIT but coming back ;o

[kia345]

Revoke his right to make threads

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Crono

Guys I really hope the jokes on us and he's been making these threads to bait us all the whole time.

It's working.