New feature for all forum members! BLOGS - Page 3

DustyPorViva · #81 07-21-2008, 08:49 PM

So I see the navigation bar at the top is getting cluttered... How about removing:
- members list
- FAQ
- Calender

And maybe adding a link to the rules up there?

Loriel · #82 07-21-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

And maybe adding a link to the rules up there?

What kind of forums user does not have the rules memorised, or at least bookmarked and always open in a separate window

Loriel · #83 07-21-2008, 09:05 PM

Is there a button to prevent certain people's blog posts being seen in the aggregate thing, other than subscribing to anyone but the certain people and ignoring their forum posts as well?

kia345 · #84 07-21-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

So I see the navigation bar at the top is getting cluttered... How about removing:
- members list
- FAQ
- Calender

And maybe adding a link to the rules up there?

Why can't we have a members list again?

Loriel · #85 07-21-2008, 09:11 PM

You can trivially get one by checking the calendar for everybody's birthday

Crono · #86 07-21-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

Why can't we have a members list again?

Apparently it'll promote spam because you can view people's post counts.

Googi · #87 07-21-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Apparently it'll promote spam because you can view people's post counts.

The most recent reason is that having an easily-accessible large list of Graal account like the guild lists is a security risk.

Skyld · #88 07-21-2008, 10:20 PM

Nice feature to have.

I think I shall start using this to post about developmental things.

excaliber7388 · #89 07-21-2008, 11:42 PM

Don't lie, you did this for my birthday, didn't you?

Darlene159 · #90 07-21-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Nice feature to have.

I think I shall start using this to post about developmental things.

I am hoping lots of people do

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Don't lie, you did this for my birthday, didn't you?

No, mine.

excaliber7388 · #91 07-22-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

No, mine.

Is today your birthday too?

Darlene159 · #92 07-22-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Is today your birthday too?

No, August 8th, lol

xAzerothx · #93 07-22-2008, 12:34 AM

Today's July 21st.

We should be able to put ratings on blogs so people know if they have mature content or not. That way its the perverted 10 year old's fault when he goes in a blog that's talking about homosexuals.

Darlene159 · #94 07-22-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx

Today's July 21st.

We should be able to put ratings on blogs so people know if they have mature content or not. That way its the perverted 10 year old's fault when he goes in a blog that's talking about homosexuals.

We wont have to worry about that, since it isnt allowed.

LoneAngelIbesu · #95 07-22-2008, 02:14 AM

Guys. There are bloghosts out there that let you have adult content. Use those. Why on earth would you want to use blogs offered by a game targeted to 13-year-olds, for adult content? Common sense.

DustyPorViva · #96 07-22-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Guys. There are bloghosts out there that let you have adult content. Use those. Why on earth would you want to use blogs offered by a game targeted to 13-year-olds, for adult content? Common sense.

Adult content? No one is asking to host porn or anything :/

LoneAngelIbesu · #97 07-22-2008, 02:25 AM

Adult == mature. I didn't think word choice really affected the point I was getting at.

DustyPorViva · #98 07-22-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Adult == mature. I didn't think word choice really affected the point I was getting at.

Adult is a lot different than mature...

But either way, just because a game is targetted at 13 year olds(which I think is a terrible idea in the first place), doesn't mean we all have to be treated as such. The game itself, logging in, is MUCH worse than the forums will ever be. It's terrible. So really, I can say while the game is targetted at 13 year olds, I pity any 13 year old that logs into the game anyways expecting flowers and rainbows.

LoneAngelIbesu · #99 07-22-2008, 02:34 AM

The forums are operated by GraalOnline staff, whereas servers are operated by their own sets of staff. Moderating all server content and behavior is an impossible task. The staff on those servers are supposed to uphold GraalOnline rules; unfortunately, most don't. However, these are the forums, and moderating a single forum is much easier than moderating 100+ servers.

The point I'm making is that you shouldn't expect to be able to post mature content on blogs provided by GraalOnline, a Zelda-based game targeted towards pre-teens. Despite what you might think, the majority of people I run in to are younger than 15 years old; I think it's safe to say that this game isn't inhabited by a majority of 18+ users. Despite if I'm wrong, the company sets it's target audience, and not the audience itself.

I think it shows really poor character when people complain about a feature that they weren't guaranteed to get. The blog feature was an unexpected addition, yet I see a lot of people bashing it for no reason other than it's now fashionable to bash GraalOnline staff and their work.

kia345 · #**100** 07-22-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

100+ servers.

Server staff are expected to uphold the rules. GPs.

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The blog feature was an unexpected addition, yet I see a lot of people bashing it for no reason other than it's now fashionable to bash GraalOnline staff and their work.

We're paying customers, no?

DustyPorViva · #**101** 07-22-2008, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

The forums are operated by GraalOnline staff, whereas servers are operated by their own sets of staff. Moderating all server content and behavior is an impossible task. The staff on those servers are supposed to uphold GraalOnline rules; unfortunately, most don't. However, these are the forums, and moderating a single forum is much easier than moderating 100+ servers.

Yet there is never any punishment for not doing so. Servers like UN are never punished or taken down because they bring Graal money... It's understandable, but they can't claim to be a game geared for 13 year-olds then ignore the crap that goes on UN just because it makes them money.

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

I think it shows really poor character when people complain about a feature that they weren't guaranteed to get. The blog feature was an unexpected addition, yet I see a lot of people bashing it for no reason other than it's now fashionable to bash GraalOnline staff and their work.

Who said we're complaining? Or at least... I'm not. You're looking at this with a black and white view instead of really looking at what people are posting. I already said it was a okay feature, I however, don't agree that it will serve much purpose, especially if it's going to be moderated like the forums. I'm not going to sit and kiss Unixmad's ass just because he finally released something(anything on Graal takes too long to get done)... especially if I believe it could be better.

LoneAngelIbesu · #**102** 07-22-2008, 02:49 AM

@kia: Linux cyberjoueurs isn't a publicly traded company, therefore you have no say in what happens and what doesn't. When it goes on the stock market (

), and you pony up some money to buy some stock, then you can use the "paying customers" argument.

Also, read my post entirely, please. That way, you don't end up repeating what I've already said.

@dusty: That's fine if you don't like it. But, what's not fine is bashing it just because you don't like it. I'm not speaking directly to you (because you haven't downright bashed the idea), but I haven't seen very much "this is neat, I'll utilize this" or "not my cup o' tea, but others might like it. Thanks for adding this feature". I've seen "wow this is stupid. unixmad is stupid. darlene is stupid. blogs on forums? what a stupid idea.".

kia345 · #**103** 07-22-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

"paying customers"

We are still paying customers. Listening to what we say could, oh god, make the experience more enjoyable for all of us. Maybe..., no, could it? Attract more people because of the user friendly management? Heavens no!

BigBear3 · #**104** 07-22-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345

can i use the blog control panel to block darlene from viewing all of mine?

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Originally Posted by darlene159

no

then forget it.

LoneAngelIbesu · #**105** 07-22-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345

We are still paying customers. Listening to what we say could, oh god, make the experience more enjoyable for all of us. Maybe..., no, could it? Attract more people because of the user friendly management? Heavens no!

User-friendly management is dependent upon friendly users.

BigBear3 · #**106** 07-22-2008, 03:00 AM

Will someone please restore the sanctity of these forums?

DustyPorViva · #**107** 07-22-2008, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

@dusty: That's fine if you don't like it. But, what's not fine is bashing it just because you don't like it. I'm not speaking directly to you (because you haven't downright bashed the idea), but I haven't seen very much "this is neat, I'll utilize this" or "not my cup o' tea, but others might like it. Thanks for adding this feature". I've seen "wow this is stupid. unixmad is stupid. darlene is stupid. blogs on forums? what a stupid idea.".

No one is really obligated to thank them though... this is a business first, and with a business you have unhappy customers. It goes with it... they have to be able to deal with it, not just delete what they don't like.

LoneAngelIbesu · #**108** 07-22-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

No one is really obligated to thank them though... this is a business first, and with a business you have unhappy customers. It goes with it... they have to be able to deal with it, not just delete what they don't like.

You're absolutely right. Nobody is obligated to thank them. It would be nice, though, to acknowledge that you appreciate them doing something nice like that, especially when they did not have to add any new features. It doesn't matter if you like the feature or not. For example: I don't like how Graal5 replaces all previous Graal versions, but I do like that they released Graal5 and the many updates that came with it.

People always fall in to this friendly-unfriendly dichotomy. The customers want "user-friendly service", but they insult the owners while asking for it. It's extremely immature and shows very bad character.

[Again, I'm not speaking solely to you, Dusty.]

Darlene159 · #**109** 07-22-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

then forget it.

Suit yourself. I am sure quite a few people will be able to use them appropriately. It's not really hard.

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

User-friendly management is dependent upon friendly users.

I couldn't agree more.

Twinny · #**110** 07-22-2008, 05:02 AM

I can see this working well for graal-related blogging. Can post server development news, personal development or perhaps ideas/concepts and the like. If you want to have a whingefest, go to an actual blogging place. If you're not going to use it then whatever. Just don't ***** about the people who have to moderate it

unixmad · #**111** 07-22-2008, 10:50 AM

You are all forgeting that if Forums are free it's mostly because Darlene have supported this idea for long time, also if forums was not moderated like it is by Darlene and Sam i will never have accepted to get more people on them.

So stop your complain about the forum administration team because they are here and will stay and making hundred of threads or messages will not change my decision. So deal with them or leave forums.

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Originally Posted by Inverness

As far as I see it, Unixmad is rarely on the forum so he has Darlene to enforce rules. And even when he is on the forum its only for Graal announcements and such and never really to communicate (beyond those announcements). So things like complaints about Darlene just die somewhere.
I would be honestly surprised if we weren't allowed to discuss this.

Rufus · #**112** 07-22-2008, 10:55 AM

Tell me when the avatar size is 130x150.

Umat · #**113** 07-22-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

You are all forgeting that if Forums are free it's mostly because Darlene have supported this idea for long time, also if forums was not moderated like it is by Darlene and Sam i will never have accepted to get more people on them.

So stop your complain about the forum administration team because they are here and will stay and making hundred of threads or messages will not change my decision. So deal with them or leave forums.

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Originally Posted by Arnold Schwarzenegger

Stop whining!

I agree. I like that you set the forums free. You could just take that back in a second. So people should be happy about this.

Loriel · #**114** 07-22-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

Tell me when the avatar size is 130x150.

Tell me when I can embed youtube videos into my avatar!

Rufus · #**115** 07-22-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

Tell me when I can embed youtube videos into my avatar!

Brilliant.

DustyPorViva · #**116** 07-22-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

You are all forgeting that if Forums are free it's mostly because Darlene have supported this idea for long time

Many people have been saying make them free, not just Darlene. You just chose to listen to Darlene.

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Originally Posted by unixmad

So deal with them or leave forums.

Great way to lead a business. I see how you managed to turn Graal into a multi-billion dollar business now.

Inverness · #**117** 07-22-2008, 05:52 PM

What we need are those buttons that hide stuff and you can click them to show it. So you could make an xbox-hueg signature but people don't have to see it unless they want to.

Darlene159 · #**118** 07-22-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Many people have been saying make them free, not just Darlene. You just chose to listen to Darlene.

But I kept bugging him because the members wanted it...that's the point. He didn't say I was the only one, because I obviously was not.

Crono · #**119** 07-22-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

But I kept bugging him because the members wanted it...that's the point.

thanx man!!

DustyPorViva · #**120** 07-22-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

But I kept bugging him because the members wanted it...that's the point. He didn't say I was the only one, because I obviously was not.

We all kept repeating it... he just doesn't listen to us. I guess that's okay... 'cause I mean... we're nobodies, right?