Little things make the big things happen

Huwajux · #1 12-30-2005, 02:22 PM

Just a few neat ideas to smooth Zone's rough surface.

Manual Reload
Easy enough to understand, for some. When a certain button is pressed you reload manually. Saving time of when you have to put your gun away then take it out again. Doesn't seem like it would make a difference but it's very helpful in some situations.

Outwards shot
Would help to create less of a teaming element in Zone. Sadly it would/can only work with pistols. Press a button you hold both arms outwards and shoot. Much like in the reload position but shooting. Would help to hold back some people while you do a runner.

Secondary Fire
Yes, yes I agree some guns already have this. Yet most don't. So...Mainly with rifles you either choose "Auto" or "Burst". Burst being when only a couple of bullets are allowed to shoot from a rifle at a time. Making the shots more accurate. With some pistols you could switch them to being more accurate yet weaker.

Single Pistol Gani
If someone could be so kind. People don't hold 1 pistol with 1 hand. So if someone could kindly make a GANI of the player holding a single pistol with 2 hands, many thanks. Seeing as in real life you would gain more control with 2 hands. Yet in Zone the players have the same amount of control when using 1 hand.

That's it.

Akoalin · #2 12-30-2005, 07:48 PM

I support all these ideas, but in addition to this one

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Originally Posted by Huwajux

Single Pistol Gani
If someone could be so kind. People don't hold 1 pistol with 1 hand. So if someone could kindly make a GANI of the player holding a single pistol with 2 hands, many thanks. Seeing as in real life you would gain more control with 2 hands. Yet in Zone the players have the same amount of control when using 1 hand.

maybe we could make it fire faster and do a few more damage points so one handed pistoling isn't completely useless. (All dual pistols need damage reduction... I mean, pistols aren't for war and yet they're the most popular weapons.)

darkkid · #3 12-30-2005, 08:57 PM

all them ideas are great, i especuially like the outward shot, if i have got it right. your player holds a gun out at each side and fires to both sides of him right?

Huwajux · #4 12-30-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by darkkid

all them ideas are great, i especuially like the outward shot, if i have got it right. your player holds a gun out at each side and fires to both sides of him right?

...Well, that's what it said.

SayianOozaru · #5 12-31-2005, 01:50 AM

i lub them ideas

bbabba · #6 12-31-2005, 03:09 AM

hmm i like the reloading one but the secondary fire thing wouldent be good to all guns.If it would then rifles wouldent be speciel,speaking of that:can we add somthing like that to storm rifle?storm rifle is the only rifle that isnt errrr speciel all it does is shoot bullets

Wind_Master · #7 12-31-2005, 03:19 AM

I like all these ideas beside the first one since all I do is press (s) and my gun reloads automaticaly.

MisterMastermind · #8 12-31-2005, 03:34 AM

F should be reload seeing as the s key could be on handed appirces... I dislike the outward shot idea. I believe it would be more fun if we had to reload with that key, you couldn't auto reload ^_^ it would accumulate more kills with P2P's... As for the Burst/Automatic idea, great.. S/space will be auto and D will be burst?

darkkid · #9 12-31-2005, 08:28 AM

outwards shot would create openings to whole new tatics and ways of fightin, esilythe best idea there.

Huwajux · #10 12-31-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bbabba

hmm i like the reloading one but the secondary fire thing wouldent be good to all guns.If it would then rifles wouldent be speciel

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Akoalin · #11 12-31-2005, 05:18 PM

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That's all I got. No offense, but you need to use a spell checker... all rifles could use a secondary shot (minus obvious ones like Chaingun).

SayianOozaru · #12 12-31-2005, 10:16 PM

i think the secondary shots for the crossbow should be:

3 arrows that scatter (one top right, one middle, one bottom left) it's hard enough to try to hit someone with the crossbow, and RELOAD right after w/o being shot

Akoalin · #13 12-31-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

i think the secondary shots for the crossbow should be:

3 arrows that scatter (one top right, one middle, one bottom left) it's hard enough to try to hit someone with the crossbow, and RELOAD right after w/o being shot

You should need to reload 3 times after firing the 3 arrows though...

bbabba · #14 01-01-2006, 01:53 AM

No you shouldent.Cross bow already has so much cons that nobody uses it.!

Zulu15 · #15 01-01-2006, 03:17 AM

I think the* crossbow should have a diferent way of aiming like with the mouse or something.

Sulukra · #16 01-01-2006, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bbabba

No you shouldent.Cross bow already has so much cons that nobody uses it.!

Hey, I've seen people use it. Even I use it sometimes, when cutting down running noobs and then slicing them with my plasma sabre.

Plasma Sabre + Crossbow = Hard to beat, if you can ever hit anything.

bbabba · #17 01-01-2006, 06:39 AM

tsk.cross bow needs upgrades and to be FUTURISTIC!

MisterMastermind · #18 01-01-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bbabba

tsk.cross bow needs upgrades and to be FUTURISTIC!

So do SMG, Chaingun, Appirces, Ap-ripper, mortar and many others...

darkkid · #19 01-01-2006, 09:09 AM

crossbow, hehe, i use that to embarras people, thats fun

Zulu15 · #20 01-01-2006, 09:10 AM

A standard issue SMG is probably going to be used in the future, just like a normal handgun(The Ap-Ripper), the Ap-Pirces are pretty damn futuristic if you ask me, it shoots two bullets, and its a pistol, for the mortar look at the thread called "Some Ideas" and the Chaingun if you ask me would never go out of style =3

MisterMastermind · #21 01-01-2006, 09:34 AM

The "standard issue SMG" will be more updated to be standard for that time period on the future...

Sulukra · #22 01-02-2006, 01:50 AM

What I want to see is a Rocket Proppeled Grenade launcher.

That way, whenever someone says "Grenades are out of style" I go out with my RPG and thus proceed to hurt them with my balanced weapon.

I had a thread with the stats, look it up sometime.

Zulu15 · #23 01-02-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

The "standard issue SMG" will be more updated to be standard for that time period on the future...

Think of the Zone SMG as the updated SMG.

MisterMastermind · #24 01-02-2006, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulu15

Think of the Zone SMG as the updated SMG.

No targeting recticle or grenade attachment... That's not very updated.

MrsMastermind · #25 01-02-2006, 03:13 AM

It's fine the way it is.

Zulu15 · #26 01-02-2006, 04:19 AM

Belive me it would have a grenade launcher if I had it my way but people say that they dont like explosions..

Akoalin · #27 01-02-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bbabba

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checkmyparanoia · #28 01-13-2006, 01:28 AM

crossbow is fine, and i see people use it effectively.. it keeps the scout class competitive to the commando class. (except now that some commandos can use magnums.. the scout's apripper.. isnt as good.. ...)
btw i like the original ideas, especially the side shooting ones, but i dont like manual reload (i like the skill of timing shots.)

icemaster · #29 01-13-2006, 04:43 AM

if crossbow was ever upgraded...wow so many people would be screwed...

i've seen people (wont say who beat them but lets just say...me and jesse know who *wink wink*) flaw people in spars several times in a row with the crossbow

its fine the way it is, not EVERY single weapon needs to be futuristic...as long as the majority of the weapons is futuristic i dont see the problem

Huwajux · #30 01-13-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by checkmyparanoia

crossbow is fine, and i see people use it effectively.. it keeps the scout class competitive to the commando class. (except now that some commandos can use magnums.. the scout's apripper.. isnt as good.. ...)
btw i like the original ideas, especially the side shooting ones, but i dont like manual reload (i like the skill of timing shots.)

Magnums are for every class...

jkool666 · #31 01-13-2006, 10:05 PM

Yeah!!! Futuristic Combatknive here I come!!! Oh and my trusty Muramasa! I can't wait!!! Lets just make them both explode on impact!!! Thats futuristic!!! Next can add this... The combat muramasa with attachable grenades!?!?!

For those who don't see the sarcasm you are stupid. And making every weapon futuristic is stupid... You can't make a knive and muramasa futuristic without the idea being stupid...

Raeiphon · #32 01-14-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin

I support all these ideas, but in addition to this one

maybe we could make it fire faster and do a few more damage points so one handed pistoling isn't completely useless. (All dual pistols need damage reduction... I mean, pistols aren't for war and yet they're the most popular weapons.)

Brilliant. Exactly what I was thinking.

someonesomewhere · #33 01-14-2006, 11:13 PM

My attention span would be longer if I was a sleeping cat. Sorry.
But I like these ideas. There needs to be a thumbs-up smilie xD
Especially about those pistols. Since when did a marine take a puny pistol over a rifle?

MisterMastermind · #34 01-14-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by someonesomewhere

Since when did a marine take a puny pistol over a rifle?

Since the pistoles are less bulky.... Pistoles have a longer stun time of whe nyou shoot and the time it takes you to move, Rifles only have maybe 1/4 that stun time and are very useful for strafing =O

Akoalin · #35 01-14-2006, 11:42 PM

Pistols: 2 shots, they're dead.
Rifles: Strafe and keep firing, and they get away.

someonesomewhere · #36 01-14-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Since the pistoles are less bulky.... Pistoles have a longer stun time of whe nyou shoot and the time it takes you to move, Rifles only have maybe 1/4 that stun time and are very useful for strafing =O

Obviously you didn't understand the statement. I was trying to get the idea through to you that if a person has a CHOICE between a rifle or a pistol in real life, they will choose a rifle. Stealth missions are one of the few exceptions.

icemaster · #37 01-14-2006, 11:59 PM

eh...but its not real life...its a game...

in almost every game a person chooses pistols over rifles simply cause it looks cooler...

and the only rifles i really see people use are red and blue rifles...because they look kewl

maybe if you spice up some rifles...more people would use em...edit the graphics a bit...you know...stuff like that

personally, i could care less what people use, i trained with pistols ill stick with em...but it might make new comers attratced to rifles and use them...

edit: for the note, i will use every weapon/any weapon, ive used em all, trained with a lot of em, so it dont effect me, but still, just sayin XP

Akoalin · #38 01-15-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by icemaster

eh...but its not real life...its a game...

in almost every game a person chooses pistols over rifles simply cause it looks cooler...

and the only rifles i really see people use are red and blue rifles...because they look kewl

maybe if you spice up some rifles...more people would use em...edit the graphics a bit...you know...stuff like that

personally, i could care less what people use, i trained with pistols ill stick with em...but it might make new comers attratced to rifles and use them...

edit: for the note, i will use every weapon/any weapon, ive used em all, trained with a lot of em, so it dont effect me, but still, just sayin XP

Ap Rippers are ugly as hell. Yet people overuse them because they're a two hit kill. Magnums are even worse, you can die from 3 bullets from that, so if they barely miss the first shot and the second shot hits, you're DEAD. Firing speed only matters with rifles.

MisterMastermind · #39 01-15-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin

Firing speed only matters with rifles.

Bullcrap, take away firing speed from g18 and replace it with gravitron firing speed...
Ok, only thing I could see that would help balance rifles/pistoles is take away accuracy from rifles. (increase variance of bullets)

icemaster · #40 01-15-2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin

Ap Rippers are ugly as hell. Yet people overuse them because they're a two hit kill. Magnums are even worse, you can die from 3 bullets from that, so if they barely miss the first shot and the second shot hits, you're DEAD. Firing speed only matters with rifles.

well...i just got owned XD

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Ok, only thing I could see that would help balance rifles/pistoles is take away accuracy from rifles. (increase variance of bullets)

uh...rifles have horrible accuracy, if u make them variant instead of the 1 strait line they do, itd just be...weird....if not weird, itd make it easier to kill with rifles...

we really dont need any more powerful weapons...i would say we need downgrades...but then more people will complain, i say leave it as is...

its all fine, the game isnt real life, people dont need to have to choose rifles over pistols...............