the strafing experiment vs not strafing

FreakyQueen · #1 12-06-2005, 09:33 PM

commando class, sweep fleet for both times. strafed first, then went nonstrafing. the strafing run was began with no money (trial account). i purchased medpacks while strafing when: my team one and when i returned and when i died. purchased medpacks while not strafing when i returned.
went for kills not bases. 1 bike mine kills while strafing. died both times fighting more then 1 person.
while strafing, took on 2 or 3 attackers with ease. much more difficult without strafing - had to heal.
returned to dropship once on both runs for ammo and health.
enemies strafed at least 40% of the time both runs.

so by pressing the shift key.. i become nigh invincible..

do i really need to say anything else?

Huwajux · #2 12-06-2005, 09:49 PM

Sorry but this is extreme spam.

jkool666 · #3 12-06-2005, 10:18 PM

Yeah this proves nothing. Except that fact that the second time you went onto the map you were more unlucky. If anything this is a way to be ****y about being 12:1...

bahamutstevetff · #4 12-06-2005, 11:36 PM

I got 151:1 with none strafe...if you dont beleive me check the screenshot browser. anyway, this thread is spam.

Wind_Master · #5 12-07-2005, 06:03 AM

It's a 1 kill/death difference. How does this prove anything?

bahamutstevetff · #6 12-07-2005, 08:17 AM

This post is tottaly pointless, it shoud be deleated!

Crono · #7 12-07-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

This post is tottaly pointless, it shoud be deleated!

So should most of your posts but we're not complaining.

I'm not liking this strafe vs nonstrafe **** going on. Just shut up and play the damn game, strafing is part of zone and was part of the original zone.

Huwajux · #8 12-07-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

So should most of your posts but we're not complaining.

I'm not liking this strafe vs nonstrafe **** going on. Just shut up and play the damn game, strafing is part of zone and was part of the original zone.

Damb straight! (To both statements)
If you PWN n00bs, how can such a simple thing such as strafing get by you?

Wind_Master · #9 12-08-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux

Damb straight! (To both statements)
If you PWN n00bs, how can such a simple thing such as strafing get by you?

Id like to see you beat DDC when he strafes with irpular. You wont be able to beat him....no1 can...

Akoalin · #10 12-08-2005, 03:58 AM

An uncontrolled experiment proves nothing. There's no true way to test it... it does help with fighting though.

FreakyQueen · #11 12-08-2005, 04:40 AM

i know this isnt a perfect experiment, and maybe i just got unlucky.
but irregardless of the scores, i find it MUCH easier to survive while strafing.. and i think that any move/item/weapon/technique/class that gives you a greatly increased accuracy and greatly increased defense (because of suppresion fire) is BAD -- unbalanced.
the game is quite playable without strafing, but it DOES take more skill. ive been fighting with the LRpulsar, no strafe and doing great -- even close/med range. yes, strafing makes it so much easier.. but it makes killing people too easy. there should be more skill needed.. with strafing, it sorta flattens the skill needed to be good, AND it makes running away and shooting VERY easy to do. for crying out loud, just try taking back out strafing and see what happens..

Wind_Master · #12 12-08-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FreakyQueen

i know this isnt a perfect experiment, and maybe i just got unlucky.
but irregardless of the scores, i find it MUCH easier to survive while strafing.. and i think that any move/item/weapon/technique/class that gives you a greatly increased accuracy and greatly increased defense (because of suppresion fire) is BAD -- unbalanced.
the game is quite playable without strafing, but it DOES take more skill. ive been fighting with the LRpulsar, no strafe and doing great -- even close/med range. yes, strafing makes it so much easier.. but it makes killing people too easy. there should be more skill needed.. with strafing, it sorta flattens the skill needed to be good, AND it makes running away and shooting VERY easy to do. for crying out loud, just try taking back out strafing and see what happens..

Strafing is cheap but it is open to the public. Their are many things that should be fixed. People consider Strafing and Using Mines strategic when all they do is cause lame.

bahamutstevetff · #13 12-08-2005, 07:42 AM

Well siad jin, its so annoying bein killed by someone who cant even fight so they us mines. Strafin i like tho

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icemaster · #14 12-08-2005, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakyQueen

i know this isnt a perfect experiment, and maybe i just got unlucky.
but irregardless of the scores, i find it MUCH easier to survive while strafing.. and i think that any move/item/weapon/technique/class that gives you a greatly increased accuracy and greatly increased defense (because of suppresion fire) is BAD -- unbalanced.
the game is quite playable without strafing, but it DOES take more skill. ive been fighting with the LRpulsar, no strafe and doing great -- even close/med range. yes, strafing makes it so much easier.. but it makes killing people too easy. there should be more skill needed.. with strafing, it sorta flattens the skill needed to be good, AND it makes running away and shooting VERY easy to do. for crying out loud, just try taking back out strafing and see what happens..

this guy said it all...however, u cant do this on 1 test by 1 person...u obviously need a few test subjects, however...but its the same with me...

i dont really care if its kept or not though...because now that i understand it, its extremely easy to overcome...(not to be ****y but...i used to die all the time by strafing XD, now i understand...)

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

Strafing is cheap but it is open to the public. Their are many things that should be fixed. People consider Strafing and Using Mines strategic when all they do is cause lame.

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

Well siad jin, its so annoying bein killed by someone who cant even fight so they us mines. Strafin i like tho

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strafing like i said, i dont care anymore...but ixi...you should really not strafe...you among all people shouldnt...i know you...you should be trying to do the challenge with no strafing

however...

mines are DEFINIETELY needed...because its zone...heres the way i look at it...

you 2 say that mines are newbish...your going to have to explain then -_-

cause mines are another strategic move...you say its just used by people who dont know how to fight...well i got news for you guys...

you only really fight in death match...every other server is a TEAM EFFORT...teams...involve strategic moves...mones are definitely important...but i do think they should put a bump in the ground when used...

maybe mine radar could then add how many mines are planted in each spot...

but in the only event where you fight by yourself...BAM...mines dont work unless you trigger them with a grenade...which is obvious to see...

mines arent newbish...they are a strategic strategy...plain and simple...the ONLY reason you should get mad at dying to mines is if your trying to grow a bounty...hence...you shouldnt be in a team event anyway...

i love mines

yet i dont use them

Wind_Master · #15 12-09-2005, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

Well siad jin, its so annoying bein killed by someone who cant even fight so they us mines. Strafin i like tho

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Strafin aint too bad. I dont like it but it aint that much of an advantage. Mines are just cheap.

bahamutstevetff · #16 12-09-2005, 06:48 AM

Mines require no skill or combat, you can just leave em there and kills rack up without trying. As to not strafing, I strafe with rifles because its easy killin, never strafe with pistols though, thats just lame.

Huwajux · #17 12-09-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

Mines require no skill or combat, you can just leave em there and kills rack up without trying. As to not strafing, I strafe with rifles because its easy killin, never strafe with pistols though, thats just lame.

yeh strafin and mines totally lame.....
ppl wit no skill just rack up teh kills like there is no tomoroow, well said ixi
lets pwn every1 we see usin mines
but if our friends are use them we will let it slip by LMAO!

bahamutstevetff · #18 12-09-2005, 08:46 PM

the only thing i understand about that thread is that your trying to flame again!

Huwajux · #19 12-10-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

the only thing i understand about that thread is that your trying to flame again!

You didn't even realise I was flaming/spamming on purpose.
I'm mocking Zone forum posters.

Bl0nkt · #20 12-10-2005, 02:00 AM

This just adds more of a reason to add a spellchecker to the forums.

icemaster · #21 12-10-2005, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux

You didn't even realise I was flaming/spamming on purpose.
I'm mocking Zone forum posters.

is that all you can do anymore? thats all i see from you -_-

is mocking how SOME of the people, not even a lot of people, but some type

as 1 of those people who type like that...i say...get a life and grow up

im sick of hearing it -_-

i went to the classic forum...and people defended people who spell like this...only 2 people insulted me......but the many out-weighed the few...which is why i felt happier there

those people should be like everyone...who cares if someone types with shortened/abbreviated words...im changin that cause i got a pm saying it hurts eyes...but...still...

i hate to say it but man...you and i both know it...most of what your doing is toward me...i dont know why...but seriously...grow up...mr. "im more mature than you"

shall i search for that quote? cause ill go get it if you would like

Wind_Master · #22 12-10-2005, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux

You didn't even realise I was flaming/spamming on purpose.
I'm mocking Zone forum posters.

Its realize mister....

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This just adds more of a reason to add a spellchecker to the forums.

Lmao, ya those would be nice (especially for people like darky who need them)

MisterMastermind · #23 12-10-2005, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

Id like to see you beat DDC when he strafes with irpular. You wont be able to beat him....no1 can...

*clears throat* You know why he actually left?

jkool666 · #24 12-10-2005, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

*clears throat* You know why he actually left?

Actually I don't belive once Jin mentioned anything regarding DDC leaving graal so really you have no reason at all to say that. He was only mentioning how skilled DDC was with an IrPulsar.
And I agree with Jin, DDC was extremely talented with it.

MisterMastermind · #25 12-10-2005, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

Actually I don't belive once Jin mentioned anything regarding DDC leaving graal so really you have no reason at all to say that. He was only mentioning how skilled DDC was with an IrPulsar.
And I agree with Jin, DDC was extremely talented with it.

I was merely stating that I have beaten him before when he tried strafing without strafing. Simply use Ixi's tactic of containment and he will charge the wrong spot at the wrong time and die =O

jkool666 · #26 12-10-2005, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I was merely stating that I have beaten him before when he tried strafing without strafing. Simply use Ixi's tactic of containment and he will charge the wrong spot at the wrong time and die =O

Actually no... Your post was.... Do you know why DDC quit? And you don't need to find places on forums to be ****y, you seem to do it enough on zone.

Wind_Master · #27 12-10-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I was merely stating that I have beaten him before when he tried strafing without strafing. Simply use Ixi's tactic of containment and he will charge the wrong spot at the wrong time and die =O

No offense but I would rather fight you than him.

MisterMastermind · #28 12-10-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

Actually no... Your post was.... Do you know why DDC quit? And you don't need to find places on forums to be ****y, you seem to do it enough on zone.

I was simply stating it is possible to beat someone that is very talented with that weapon without using a "lame" tactic like strafing.

Wind_Master · #29 12-10-2005, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I was simply stating it is possible to beat someone that is very talented with that weapon without using a "lame" tactic like strafing.

As I have said before, anyone is beatable (beside tao back when he was good) but almost everyone is beatable.

bahamutstevetff · #30 12-10-2005, 07:31 AM

DDC had much more skill than jar jar, and a less queer name. If you have notices, he named himself "Red pistole king" How ****y is that. Who owns him with reddys. Me, Jin,jesse,ace,tro,storm,maybe sayian. *Rolls eyes* he sounds so **** when you put it that way.

Wind_Master · #31 12-10-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

DDC had much more skill than jar jar, and a less queer name. If you have notices, he named himself "Red pistole king" How ****y is that. Who owns him with reddys. Me, Jin,jesse,ace,tro,storm,maybe sayian. *Rolls eyes* he sounds so **** when you put it that way.

Thanks

Anyways ya, jug head you need to tone down the ****yness a bit. Look at me, I used to be ****y, now when I die I dont say a word (unless they killed me with mines) Also when I do good or kill someone I never say im better. When I beat RealDDC I even admitted to him being better. You will have more friends trust me. Storm was ****y (and fat I have heard) he never had any friends (beside me cause I was a kiss-up) and when he wasnt ****y everyone loved him.

MisterMastermind · #32 12-10-2005, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

DDC had much more skill than jar jar, and a less queer name. If you have notices, he named himself "Red pistole king" How ****y is that. Who owns him with reddys. Me, Jin,jesse,ace,tro,storm,maybe sayian. *Rolls eyes* he sounds so **** when you put it that way.

1. I'd like to see you or anyone you put on that list try.
2. Stop flaming FFS
3. If he did then why would I beat him continually before he quit?
4. Some1 called IXI can call Jar-Jar a queer name? I've seen everything now cept maybe IXI beat me in a fair fight.

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

Thanks

Anyways ya, jug head you need to tone down the ****yness a bit. Look at me, I used to be ****y, now when I die I dont say a word (unless they killed me with mines) Also when I do good or kill someone I never say im better. When I beat RealDDC I even admitted to him being better. You will have more friends trust me. Storm was ****y (and fat I have heard) he never had any friends (beside me cause I was a kiss-up) and when he wasnt ****y everyone loved him.

Yes, I'm ****y. If people could kill me without strafing/teaming *cough* IXI *cough* I wouldn't be so ****y. Until then (which very well may be a lonnnnnnnngggggg time) I'll stay the way I am.

Wind_Master · #33 12-10-2005, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

1. I'd like to see you or anyone you put on that list try.
2. Stop flaming FFS
3. If he did then why would I beat him continually before he quit?
4. Some1 called IXI can call Jar-Jar a queer name? I've seen everything now cept maybe IXI beat me in a fair fight.
Yes, I'm ****y. If people could kill me without strafing/teaming *cough* IXI *cough* I wouldn't be so ****y. Until then (which very well may be a lonnnnnnnngggggg time) I'll stay the way I am.

Dude, im your friend but I even am getting sick of your ****yness....you named yourself the red pistole king......Doesnt make sense. Jesse could call himself G18 king but he doesnt because he respects other zone players.

MisterMastermind · #34 12-10-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

Dude, im your friend but I even am getting sick of your ****yness....you named yourself the red pistole king......Doesnt make sense. Jesse could call himself G18 king but he doesnt because he respects other zone players.

1. They need to earn respect the hard way.
2. Don't like the title then beat me with em.
3. I've heard you say you didn't liek me many times before so friend isn't the right word.

Wind_Master · #35 12-10-2005, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

1. They need to earn respect the hard way.
2. Don't like the title then beat me with em.
3. I've heard you say you didn't liek me many times before so friend isn't the right word.

Responses:

1. You dont have any respect from anyone except for gabby.
2. I did beat you, the time ran out.
3. K, than im not your friend.

MisterMastermind · #36 12-10-2005, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

Responses:

1. You dont have any respect from anyone except for gabby.
2. I did beat you, the time ran out.
3. K, than im not your friend.

1. I respect gabby because she has beaten me when she wasn't lagging, I also respect Ace, Riley, Dark, and Vulcan (First three can kill me 25% or higher. Vulcan talks/acts like a civilized human being and not a cave man, and he takes his job seriously.)
2.No as I remember I flawed you.
3.agreed =)

Wind_Master · #37 12-10-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

1. I respect gabby because she has beaten me when she wasn't lagging, I also respect Ace, Riley, and Dark.
2.No as I remember I flawed you.
3.agreed =)

1. Gabby likes anyone, she repsects you and darky.
2. You lagged like crazy, and you never killed me with rp's (damn ur a baby)
3. Better be, damn laggy newb.

MisterMastermind · #38 12-10-2005, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

1. Gabby likes anyone, she repsects you and darky.
2. You lagged like crazy, and you never killed me with rp's (damn ur a baby)
3. Better be, damn laggy newb.

1. I'm a baby? You, IXI, and Jesse are the ones bringing all this up. I'm just retaliating.
2. I would of if (and dont try to his thi sfact everyone knows it's true) You actually played on your VIP account with Rps instead of staying around the edge trying to keep up your "1337 k1lls/de4ths"
3. All 3 times when i flawed you, I asked if I lagged that time and you replied no every time. Then when i beat you with around 70hp you said I lagged that time.

Wind_Master · #39 12-10-2005, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

1. I'm a baby? You, IXI, and Jesse are the ones bringing all this up. I'm just retaliating.
2. I would of if (and dont try to his thi sfact everyone knows it's true) You actually played on your VIP account with Rps instead of staying around the edge trying to keep up your "1337 k1lls/de4ths"
3. All 3 times when i flawed you, I asked if I lagged that time and you replied no every time. Then when i beat you with around 70hp you said I lagged that time.

1. WHen did I call you a baby? Might wanna get them eyes checked
2. You wouldnt of, I beat you with a trial face the facts.
3. I know im not better than you. But im amazingly good at football so I dont really care about a game. When im in the NFL and your living in a little shack playing zone dont cry to me.

bahamutstevetff · #40 12-10-2005, 08:01 AM

OMG, I remember i slaughtered you with rps, and when i try can flaw you in seconds, you got that little ****yness out of me, but i have to to get it through to you thick head, how about you **** and accept the fact that you suck I jin Jesse all pwn you queer ass. IXI is a mark, Jar jar is a queer star wars name you nerd.