Quick-Equip Menu

Bl0nkt · #1 08-02-2005, 12:06 AM

In other words, hotkeys. There are times in Zone where I wish I had a grenade equiped at the time. Unfortunately, it would mean openning the q-menu and risking my life trying to equip it just to try and re-equip my bluerifle again once I throw it.

If it's not too much trouble, please add hotkeys to the num pad numbers. Perhaps right clicking an item you want to hotkey and a list from 0 - 9 comes up. A picture will appear of the weapon assigned to each number to the right of the according number. Click the according number and it is assigned to that num pad button.

Thank you.

protagonist · #2 08-02-2005, 12:07 AM

I would probably play Zone if it had hotkeys.

Akoalin · #3 08-02-2005, 12:35 AM

the problem is;
Noob uses bluerifle to lame you, when he has low health he jetpacks away easily.
This is the reason Zone has s and d as seperate hands.

Crono · #4 08-02-2005, 12:44 AM

Quick Keys are bad.

1) Medics. They will hotkey the pack and lame it on themselves.

2) Jetpack runners. Will hotkey em and run away.

3) Healing packs in general. Will use them too much in battle.

NO! As mentioned we have S and D slots for a reason.

Bl0nkt · #5 08-02-2005, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin

the problem is;
Noob uses bluerifle to lame you, when he has low health he jetpacks away easily.
This is the reason Zone has s and d as seperate hands.

You have a point there.

Here are two options:

a) Set limitations to what items could be hotkey'd.

b) Set the 1 numpad key to a rifle you want to hotkey, the 2 numpad key to a pistol you want and the 3 numpad key to a grenade/mine you want (In other words, you could only set three things to hotkey. One from the rifle list, one from the handgun list and one from the grenade list).

Crono · #6 08-02-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

b) Set the 1 numpad key to a rifle you want to hotkey, the 2 numpad key to a pistol you want and the 3 numpad key to a grenade/mine you want (In other words, you could only set three things to hotkey. One from the rifle list, one from the handgun list and one from the grenade list).

I like that.

Wind_Master · #7 08-02-2005, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Quick Keys are bad.

1) Medics. They will hotkey the pack and lame it on themselves.

2) Jetpack runners. Will hotkey em and run away.

3) Healing packs in general. Will use them too much in battle.

NO! As mentioned we have S and D slots for a reason.

hotkeys will definetly cause more lameing

Zulu15 · #8 08-02-2005, 05:22 AM

I kind of like the idea but being able to change weapons like that so fast would kind of destroy the use of weapons that are one handed and also, it'd be like having 6 hands to hold weapons in, maybe when you press 1 it opens the menu you set to it and so on? (You press 1 and it opens the Riffle menu, 2 the Pistol menu and so on) I dunno

Wind_Master · #9 08-02-2005, 06:44 AM

it shouldnt b made ppl would just equip like a shotgun and when they get up close quickly pull out a plasma sabre....zzzz

someonesomewhere · #10 08-02-2005, 09:54 AM

Only Sapper has both Shotgun and plasma Saber, and It's not exactly the fastest unit... and last time I checked:

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

You have a point there.

Here are two options:

a) Set limitations to what items could be hotkey'd.

b) Set the 1 numpad key to a rifle you want to hotkey, the 2 numpad key to a pistol you want and the 3 numpad key to a grenade/mine you want (In other words, you could only set three things to hotkey. One from the rifle list, one from the handgun list and one from the grenade list).

He never mentioned a Hotkey for melee weapons. (Choice B)

Wind_Master · #11 08-02-2005, 04:37 PM

bottom line is ppl would lame faster....heal faster.....kill faster.....and cause the game 2 suck.

Bl0nkt · #12 08-02-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

bottom line is ppl would lame faster....heal faster.....kill faster.....and cause the game 2 suck.

Read choice B. If you call equipping a rifle to a pistol being lame, you're wrong. This isn't something only one person can do. EVERYONE will have it so ANYONE could switch to a handgun/rifle/grenade.

xAndrewx · #13 08-02-2005, 05:11 PM

I remember when we released the Era Hotkeys, they were alot of fun!

Bl0nkt · #14 08-02-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I remember when we released the Era Hotkeys, they were alot of fun!

They were very detailed and easy to use.

xAndrewx · #15 08-02-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

They were very detailed and easy to use.

Easily hackable!

Bl0nkt · #16 08-02-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Easily hackable!

Why would you need to hack them?

*Thinks*

...Item duplication

xAndrewx · #17 08-02-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

Why would you need to hack them?

*Thinks*

...Item duplication

No... lol.
I didn't hack them. I was the manager of Era, that's why I didn't release them on new era. [Easily hackable]

Wind_Master · #18 08-02-2005, 06:32 PM

i just dont think the hotkeys should b added

xAndrewx · #19 08-02-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

i just dont think the hotkeys should b added

Would be better if you had a reason.

Wind_Master · #20 08-02-2005, 08:16 PM

ok i do.....how about it would cause massive lameing...id just equip appirces than when id get in mid-range quickly switch 2 crossbow

Bl0nkt · #21 08-02-2005, 08:36 PM

1. Have fun being a medic then.

2. What's stopping me from doing it too?

xAndrewx · #22 08-02-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

ok i do.....how about it would cause massive lameing...id just equip appirces than when id get in mid-range quickly switch 2 crossbow

What's wrong with that?

Wind_Master · #23 08-02-2005, 10:02 PM

its cheap thats whats wrong with it

Zulu15 · #24 08-03-2005, 02:41 AM

It is? By the time you actualy hit with the crossbow the guy alredy killed you, or he just healed after being poisoned.

konidias · #25 08-03-2005, 03:33 AM

I don't see people arguing that it's cheap to use hotkeys in Counter-strike. Though I guess Zone isn't Counter-Strike...

You know that the numpad is already configured to be used as a secondary movement. The arrow keys on the numpad move your character around, and I think 1 3 and 5 are A S D... 0 is pause?

Soul-Blade · #26 08-03-2005, 03:44 AM

Use your brain, people. Hotkeys wouldn't cause more "laming." You're a ***** if you believe that. You know why? Because the person "laming" is targetting someone else WITH THE SAME CAPABILITIES. Don't like a person quickly switching weapons? Then do the same to them. When EVERYONE has hotkeys, then it is an equal game. In reality, this would make things much more fast paced.

someonesomewhere · #27 08-03-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulu15

It is? By the time you actualy hit with the crossbow the guy alredy killed you, or he just healed after being poisoned.

How many times have you used crossbow? It's really not that hard, because if you shoot at a person from a diagonal, they have a harder time figuring where shots will go. Besides, It's pretty easy to kill people with crossbow, as long as you use it right.

Zulu15 · #28 08-03-2005, 06:55 AM

To me its jsut anoying, I dont bother using it that much, and yeah, every weapons is easier to hit with diagonal shots but the crossbow has a speed that im not used to ^_^;, even if I have the no-reload thing its hard for me to actualy hit ugh, maybe its just because I suck, probably thats to blame XP

xAndrewx · #29 08-03-2005, 09:23 AM

I think a beta version should be released!
Zone for hotkeys!

Bl0nkt · #30 08-03-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I think a beta version should be released!
Zone for hotkeys!

In all honesty, I think it would add a faster pace to the game and in most cases, more action.

It could also be improved by giving more of a reason to switch a weapon. Currently it takes one second to reload a weapon. You'll notice on other games like CS or BF2 that reloading is an issue that could be resolved by switching to a secondary or grenade.

Considering Zone has custom bodies, it allows for things that classic bodies don't allow for. The legs in Zone allow for things like reloading and walking at the same time (All while the animation doesn't reset or turn to the regular walk gani when you move). I recently thought about these ideas for Atrius (Before I worked on Zenkou). All you need to do is create the walking gani in two separate ganis (One with the legs moving and one with the torso/arms/weapon/etc... moving). Put them in height according and from there the only thing I need to figure out is how to set two animations at once to finish off the idea.

xAndrewx · #31 08-03-2005, 04:12 PM

Faster games are better, in my opinion.

bbabba · #32 08-03-2005, 09:18 PM

This isnt a good idea,you see stefen doesent care -_-

Bl0nkt · #33 08-03-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bbabba

This isnt a good idea,you see stefen doesent care -_-

Stefan hasn't said -anything- yet.

Wind_Master · #34 08-03-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Faster games are better, in my opinion.

more lameing in a game is worse in my opinion

Bl0nkt · #35 08-04-2005, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

more lameing in a game is worse in my opinion

There will be no laming if everyone can do it.

Wind_Master · #36 08-04-2005, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

There will be no laming if everyone can do it.

i dont know about u....but im not a newb who lames so im definetly not gunna use it...so go ahead u guys can have ur little lameing toys.......zzzzz

Bl0nkt · #37 08-04-2005, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

i dont know about u....but im not a newb who lames so im definetly not gunna use it...so go ahead u guys can have ur little lameing toys.......zzzzz

Then you could get frustrated over an optional thing.

Zulu15 · #38 08-04-2005, 07:27 AM

Like strafing, it there, use it, dont complain about it if you dont want to use it.

At first I wasent very into this idea but reading these posts changed my mind, hotkeys should definetly be implimented, the medics are gonna heal? Like 20 hp for 60 energy, so it wouldent matter much, besides, this way more interesting classes(The ones with access to allot of weapons) would be chosen more because you can change your weapon to fit the situation without having to stand there looking stupid while you open up your Q menu.

Huwajux · #39 08-04-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulu15

Like strafing, it there, use it, dont complain about it if you dont want to use it.

At first I wasent very into this idea but reading these posts changed my mind, hotkeys should definetly be implimented, the medics are gonna heal? Like 20 hp for 60 energy, so it wouldent matter much, besides, this way more interesting classes(The ones with access to allot of weapons) would be chosen more because you can change your weapon to fit the situation without having to stand there looking stupid while you open up your Q menu.

Indeed, when medics start healing just get out a rifle and blast away.

Crono · #40 08-04-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

There will be no laming if everyone can do it.

Wrong. People like me have decency(sp?) and don't heal while we're fighting against someone. Other lamers, however, just heal while fighting and keep fighting. I refuse to turn into a lamer just because it's easier for the other person to lame, which is why this hotkeying stuff is going up my ass harder and harder.