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Old 07-18-2005, 10:55 PM
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Unhappy ...Zone has died :(...

last night i went to get on Zone.....and only 5 people were on. Ever since the trials(most of Zone players were Trials) where reduced to 80 hp, and weren't allowed to use Guild Tags, There has only been a decrease in the number of players, i had 2 friends im me on aim telling me about how easy it is to kill trials now, so they've decided to quit. And there are more people i no that have quit..

1) Muroku (i think)
2) Touya (plays un now)
3) DangerBoy (plays un now)
4) Pip (quit Graal, he only liked Zone...)
5) Edge (same as Pip)

...there are more, but i'm not sure if they have quit graal or where they are, and these are only people i no....Zone went from 30 players (before the Zone Wars map) to 70 players (release of Zone wars map) to 30 or 40 players (When Zone wars map got old) down to maybe 20 (the most i've seen on since the changes were made).....i started this thread because this all happened when Gambet brought it up a couple of days before his gold expired...he ruined Zone and he doesn't even play anymore....i have not been on the forums lately, so i have no idea why this happened, but last time i was here, Gambet had started a thread about limiting the Trial accs. So thought i'd post this thread to see if you guys like or dislike the changes made :/ cause i don't :/ (maybe if alot of people don't like the changes it'll go back to the way it was and we can get all of our players back )
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:03 PM
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It is a gold server. Plain and simple.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:05 PM
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It is a gold server. Plain and simple.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:27 PM
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ok, well what's the point in keeping a server a gold server if only 10-20 people play? all(or most) p2p accounts play GK. all the Trial acc's are on Zone almost ALL the time, maybe there'll be like a couple of players that are trial on GK....but that's only maybe....i'm trying to tell everyone that Zone has lost the majority of it's players, because they don't like how they have 80 hp, and don't get to use guild tags. So they either quit graal, or go to un......even some gold acc's because it's to easy to kill trials now.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:34 PM
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When trials got 80 hp, most quit. We should find another way to restrict them that won't make them quit..
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:35 PM
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When trials got 80 hp, most quit. We should find another way to restrict them that won't make them quit..
Trial mode is to *try the server*, not play it.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:55 PM
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Touya didnt quit lol i convinced him to stay lol hes a good buddy... and ya sayain is right alot of people will also quit at the release of armour (Still release it! lol) but ya trials will have basically half what a gold subscribed person with armour will have.... You also need to think of it as you were them (i was about 2 weeks ago lol) you have 80hp going up against somone who has 150hp you already have the odds against you and you need to be very good to not die... But also i guess not many people can afford the armour but if its going to be 14k then people can easily obtain it (i got 14k in 3 days)
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:10 AM
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zone lost its fancy...PERIOD
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:45 AM
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I like the new 80hp for trials bcuz its easier kills for p2p. But I have to admit the no global guild tag suX (with a capital x). I'm only a zone player so I see the huge drop in ppl playing Zone, I think u could fix it with more events (like 2 a week). 1 of them for every1 and the other for p2p only
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:48 AM
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I never liked Zone, and I disliked it even more after all of the star wars things were added to it.
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:07 AM
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I never liked Zone, and I disliked it even more after all of the star wars things were added to it.
Then don't post here.
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:17 AM
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:33 AM
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:57 AM
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It is a gold server. Plain and simple.
So? No ones gonna upgrade to play a server wth 20 people on it. They want players.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:24 AM
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:28 AM
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I suggest a world for all Trials like GK has.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:29 AM
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make a lock in program. give them full access for a limited amount of time. once the time is up, they have aquired kills, a decent rank, maybe some cool weapons. and they wont want to lose that; giving them an incentive to upgrade and not loose their hard work.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:36 AM
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I like the new 80hp for trials bcuz its easier kills for p2p.
And yer a frigin idiot.

Zone has died alot. I think that the trials should get 100hp back. Imean, isnt it bad enough that they cant save their stats? what esle do you need as incentive(usually)?
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:37 AM
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Gold Server is killing Zone.. and one of there developers stopped playing because its gold.. It should go back to the classic tab, then more people will play and Gambet will possibly come back.

Since the trials were changed since people didn't like how they were good, they lost half the count. It would of been smarter to let them play, and theres no point to trial on that server since you can still play and have fun even when you lose your stuff.

My suggestion would be to change it to Classic, like before, and to not limit the trials.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:50 AM
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I never liked Zone, and I disliked it even more after all of the star wars things were added to it.
Agreed.

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Zone is boring. Zone is just alot of spiffy guns thrown together without any real thought. It's trivial to play it; there's so many gaps in gameplay you just want to shoot yourself.

Maybe that's what happened to Kai.. he played zone. x-x
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:57 AM
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Gold Server is killing Zone.. and one of there developers stopped playing because its gold.. It should go back to the classic tab, then more people will play and Gambet will possibly come back.

Since the trials were changed since people didn't like how they were good, they lost half the count. It would of been smarter to let them play, and theres no point to trial on that server since you can still play and have fun even when you lose your stuff.

My suggestion would be to change it to Classic, like before, and to not limit the trials.
I don't know if Gambet would come back if i was classic...
or did his gold/vip/whatever run out?

Changing it to classic would be a good idea. Also change it so theres more than one GP or whatever...
No offense, but i think Gambet has become uptight...
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:29 AM
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You shouldn't be trying to convince the G.O. company to make Zone free... You should be convincing them to make Zone worth these people's money... Then you would have so many upgraded people with full HP that you wouldn't have to worry about trial accounts not playing anymore. -_-;
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:45 AM
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A server where the only thing to do is play the same 4-5 events over and over again is doomed to fail.
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:50 AM
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Then i think that they should hold more events.... You know give some lucky people the chance to get a new weapon that no one else has (reapers).
Also upload armour that original stuff that sayain made i thought looked fine. Adding new things make the game more exciting hense ppl dont quit...
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:06 AM
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Then i think that they should hold more events.... You know give some lucky people the chance to get a new weapon that no one else has (reapers).
Also upload armour that original stuff that sayain made i thought looked fine. Adding new things make the game more exciting hense ppl dont quit...
Stefan and I are going to be hosting more events soon. There will be more updates soon. Stefan has been busy with v4 and the new updates to Graal in general.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:25 AM
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I suggest a world for all Trials like GK has.
dude thats a world for everyone.. not just trials.
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Old 07-19-2005, 06:33 AM
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:05 AM
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It's like Tactical Skirmish on Era - except not as good, and played over and over...with no main server to go back to.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:10 PM
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When trials got 80 hp, most quit. We should find another way to restrict them that won't make them quit..

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Old 07-19-2005, 02:14 PM
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Anyway I say give the Trials 100 hp, but let them have restricitions on a few weapons, a few good and a few bad ones. also you could restrict trials to olny buy 2 medipacks instead of 5.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:36 PM
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Ya that would work but make sure they still have appirces, if they dont have those EVERY good trial will quit and its more likey that good trials will upgrade to gold.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:06 AM
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:35 AM
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What i ment by dont take away appirces is make sure that trials always get to use it. It is obviously the best weapon since all the best players use it. Check scoreboards if you think otherwise. So if you take that gun away trial players will get angry and not ever want to upgrade. Get it?
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:49 AM
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How can you know what you're talking about (eg: Zone) if you don't play zone?
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But i do play lol. And also jar jar, you should know that appirces are the best gun
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:25 AM
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Nobody's listening. Stop trying to figure out ways to keep Trials as long term players... What needs to happen is these Trial Players need to be convinced that Zone is worth their $44 a year.

Stefan is running a business here. He wants people to purchase accounts to play on his servers. He's not going to give them more of a reason not to pay him money.
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:44 AM
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Nobody's listening. Stop trying to figure out ways to keep Trials as long term players... What needs to happen is these Trial Players need to be convinced that Zone is worth their $44 a year.

Stefan is running a business here. He wants people to purchase accounts to play on his servers. He's not going to give them more of a reason not to pay him money.
First of all yes i realize stefan is trying to run a buisness. But tell me this much, (this is just an example) If your favorite store began to raise their prices alot and their was another store just down the road (a different online game) and the store down the road had the same items for lower prices which would you go to, keeping in mind that your favorite store just made you angry (*** example i know lol)
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