Graal.net Hosting for VIP and PlayerWorld owners

unixmad · #1 05-05-2004, 05:10 PM

Web hosting beta test have just been released

You can access the control panel from:

http://vip.graal.net

When you have created your account using this control panel you will be able to upload your content using the ftp server.

The ftp space is created in real time but the web space is created some hours after, so wait a little bit to watch your web pages.

Player world admins must use admin account to create the web space.

Crono · #2 05-05-2004, 05:12 PM

Question about web hosting the general public and myself might/want to know:

Are we allowed to "discuss" other web hosting peoples?

unixmad · #3 05-05-2004, 05:24 PM

I don't see why you would like to discuss other Web hosting on Graal forums, we are now offering web hosting so there is no need to redirect players to other Web hosting company.

Graal web hosting is quite powerfull you have:

- 10 or 100 MB disk space
- PHP scripts
- Mysql

If you need more features just ask we will try to add them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami

Question about web hosting the general public and myself might/want to know:

Are we allowed to "discuss" other web hosting peoples?

Crono · #4 05-05-2004, 05:35 PM

But you see, for free you can get the following-

Disk Space 300MB
Bandwidth/month 10GB
# Email Accounts 20
# FTP Accounts 20
# MySQL Databases 20
# Subdomain 2
Mailling Lists YES
CGI/PERL YES
PHP 4.3.4 + Zend YES
Frontpage Extension YES
99% Uptime YES
cPanel 9 YES
Fantastico De Luxe YES

-Copy pasted from their site

And all you need to do is make 35 posts on their forums and continue posting like what, 15 posts a week? Pfft, very easy.

Spark910 · #5 05-05-2004, 05:35 PM

mmm... working services <3
http://spark910.vip.graal.net/

Spark910 · #6 05-05-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami

But you see, for free you can get the following-

Disk Space 300MB
Bandwidth/month 10GB
# Email Accounts 20
# FTP Accounts 20
# MySQL Databases 20
# Subdomain 2
Mailling Lists YES
CGI/PERL YES
PHP 4.3.4 + Zend YES
Frontpage Extension YES
99% Uptime YES
cPanel 9 YES
Fantastico De Luxe YES

-Copy pasted from their site

No limitations on bandwidth here, so thats better.
20 FTP accounts, well doubtful you'll need more than the four provided.
No limitations on MySQL database sizes (number of) - just size they take
And I think CGI/PERL/PHP/Front Page is there
And cpanel isn't really needed for this service I don't think :s

Maybe then as a suggestion domain names should be able to be hosted, and then they could add some e-mail or so to it :o

Crono · #7 05-05-2004, 05:41 PM

And I doubt you'll use unlimited bandwidth on Graal...

This whole thing is a good idea though, so I'm not complaining. But 300 MB is very nice.

unixmad-Can we use this service to just upload graal-related files without making a website?

Myukoi · #8 05-05-2004, 05:48 PM

Too bad you can only use this to make graal playerworld and fan websites.

MagicalTux · #9 05-05-2004, 06:21 PM

Maybe you (Gerami) should remember that Graal Online is *NOT* an hosting company or anything. This service is just something that we provide to VIP and Playerworld, it's not intended to become an independant hosting solution.
Also there's no point discussing other web hosting people since Graal is *not* a web hosting system.

WanDaMan · #10 05-05-2004, 06:26 PM

Would anyone like to help me on it?

LegendaryTsukasa · #11 05-05-2004, 06:31 PM

Thats cool and all, but why would VIP need space o_O Most people will use it for other things...

Dach · #12 05-05-2004, 06:47 PM

Oh sweet, old school GFX!!
I better go get myself an ftp client, and learn me some Mysql

Thallen · #13 05-05-2004, 07:04 PM

Awesome, I'm going to go try it out right now.

Crono · #14 05-05-2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicalTux

Maybe you (Gerami) should remember that Graal Online is *NOT* an hosting company or anything. This service is just something that we provide to VIP and Playerworld, it's not intended to become an independant hosting solution.
Also there's no point discussing other web hosting people since Graal is *not* a web hosting system.

I'm just asking if we could discuss other web hosting solutions on the forums.

protagonist · #15 05-05-2004, 07:19 PM

I can not access mine because my global RC's IP range is incorrect.

What should I do?

Thallen · #16 05-05-2004, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami

I'm just asking if we could discuss other web hosting solutions on the forums.

And he just answered it, saying no. Just drop it, not everything needs to be so complicating, use the web service for Graal, use your personal webspace for whatever else.

Lance · #17 05-05-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist

I can not access mine because my global RC's IP range is incorrect.

What should I do?

You could try getting it fixed.

I mean, if you wanted to.

protagonist · #18 05-05-2004, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance

You could try getting it fixed.

I mean, if you wanted to.

I've been trying to for about 9 months. I had a lucky period where my IP got back to the right range, but that lucky period has long since passed.

Emails, forums, IMs, and PMs. Yes, I've covered them all.

Lance · #19 05-05-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist

I've been trying to for about 9 months. I had a lucky period where my IP got back to the right range, but that lucky period has long since passed.

Emails, forums, IMs, and PMs. Yes, I've covered them all.

Perhaps you are not contacting the correct person with the correct means.

Forum PMing Stefan works pretty well. It seems to take a maximum of a month or so to get an IP range updated, if he is busy.

protagonist · #20 05-05-2004, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance

Perhaps you are not contacting the correct person with the correct means.

Forum PMing Stefan works pretty well. It seems to take a maximum of a month or so to get an IP range updated, if he is busy.

My VIP runs out in 22 days.

That's a sad type of funny.

Lance · #21 05-05-2004, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist

My VIP runs out in 22 days.

That's a sad type of funny.

I do not think it takes 22 days to send a forum PM...?

protagonist · #22 05-05-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance

I do not think it takes 22 days to send a forum PM...?

With all the stuff that is happening, it is likely that Stefan is quite busy. I'll try it anyway.

Thallen · #23 05-05-2004, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance

I do not think it takes 22 days to send a forum PM...?

So far it's taken about a week for Angel, Stefan, unixmad, and Lyndzey to answer a multiple-message forum PM...

WanDaMan · #24 05-05-2004, 08:14 PM

I don't get a reply from Angel, But all the others I do I guess :O

Haha i'm going to host a forums

Thallen · #25 05-05-2004, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I don't get a reply from Angel, But all the others I do I guess :O

Haha i'm going to host a forums

Same. Giving us PHP access is awesome, I'll probably host my own vBulletin.

jake13jake · #26 05-05-2004, 08:35 PM

I would very much like to use this to move my Graal Classic Help site to, but 3 dots without a www is a bit much. Other than that.

I wouldn't mind whether or not you did add ads, just so long as it respected the design. I had to do that with my first long-running website, but I was the one that built in the ad. I don't know if that design would work quite as well with my messings with it in transition to my site (I love my vflip-L design, so easy to work with... so I continue using it) My ISP's webspace does not require nor request ads, though.

A better subdomain would probably lure me in, and also keep me subscribing to VIP.

Thallen · #27 05-05-2004, 09:59 PM

Woohoo, I was just activated! One question though: Why do I get an error when I try to CHMOD a PHP file? It says "it may not be supported on remote site".

Thought · #28 05-05-2004, 11:29 PM

Because they probably have disabled access from doing so ;-)

Still havn't gotten my confirmation e-mail. :o

Thallen · #29 05-05-2004, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thought

Because they probably have disabled access from doing so ;-)

Still havn't gotten my confirmation e-mail. :o

Why? I'm sure the guys know that almost all PHP scripts require CHMOD permissions. Here's the one I've managed to do without CHMOD, so far. Just thought I'd keep the Graalians updated of when there beloved may exit the forums.

Thought · #30 05-05-2004, 11:42 PM

No, that is only if the server is configured to have PHP set up as CGI. If it's directly loaded into Apache it is not required.

Trevor · #31 05-06-2004, 12:58 AM

Is perl available? If so, what is the directory.

LegendaryTsukasa · #32 05-06-2004, 01:18 AM

Question: Where do I get this, FTP client thingy so I can actually access this FTP?

Skyerus · #33 05-06-2004, 01:26 AM

The site looks cool, nice job.

Too bad I can't activate my other account with VIP, I used a Graal.net email address and for some reason I can't receive e-mail on it. Oh well, I'll just upgrade when my gold time runs out.

ZanderX · #34 05-06-2004, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryTsukasa

Question: Where do I get this, FTP client thingy so I can actually access this FTP?

Why people have such difficulty using Google is beyond me, but here.

http://www.smartftp.com Knock yourself out.

Thallen · #35 05-06-2004, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZanderX

Why people have such difficulty using Google is beyond me, but here.

http://www.smartftp.com Knock yourself out.

WS_FTP is far superior.

LegendaryTsukasa · #36 05-06-2004, 01:58 AM

Where can I get that Thall?

ZanderX · #37 05-06-2004, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen

WS_FTP is far superior.

And isn't free. SmartFTP is the best 100% free FTP client. Not that I think even a fully licensed WS_FTP is better than SmartFTP, anyways.

Myukoi · #38 05-06-2004, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen

WS_FTP is far superior.

I used WS_FTP95, i just got my new website finally up (see signature) but alot of times it like goes offiline, like where you can't upload stuff, is that normal?

zs0 · #39 05-06-2004, 02:39 AM

The thing is, I would probably buy it, but uh, I can't afford this. I've already spent enough upgrading account itself.

Thought · #40 05-06-2004, 02:56 AM

I use the FTP client built into UltraEdit.