Delteria: Bad Stuff

[Warcaptain]

well in my little informal playerworld inspections ive found many bad things on delt

heres one of them, a weapon that lets you hump players

wow, what great influence we have on our younger players!

[Dude6252000]

WC, do you always have to point out bad things on servers? :x I mean, why don't you just go on Bomy Moon and say "get rid of being able to grab and pull each other, commonly known as humping" and get it over with?

[Soul-Blade]

Originally posted by Dude6252000
WC, do you always have to point out bad things on servers? :x I mean, why don't you just go on Bomy Moon and say "get rid of being able to grab and pull each other, commonly known as humping" and get it over with?

Haha yes exactly, you sir are a genius.

[Dark-Dragoon]

Warcaptain points out every fault to draw attention away from his own suckass server.
I'm blunt but truthful.

[Kuza]

Originally posted by Dude6252000
WC, do you always have to point out bad things on servers? :x I mean, why don't you just go on Bomy Moon and say "get rid of being able to grab and pull each other, commonly known as humping" and get it over with?

*WORSHIPS & BOWS HUMBLY*

[ETD]

I think it's good that someone is going around, and exposing things like this...

now, i think maybe he could talk to the server owner, or something about it before posting... but at least things are being exposed, and fixed

[PrinceDark]

That humping things automatically loads when you log on to the playerworld, and when you fire it you start humping things. The name of the npc itself is humping something.
There's quite a bit of questionable content on Delteria. I'm still trying to figure out why there is a statue of me in one of the caves. It even has my name on it. X.x

[Deek2]

It's nice that he's pointing these things out, but dude, you don't have to make 50,000 threads pointing out simple flaws in playerworlds. Either talk to Nemesis, or talk to the server admin. It's simple. I mean, what are we going to do?

[warp2ukew]

wc shutup, said more than once, UIT POINTING OUT FLAWS IN OTHER SERVERS TO COVER UP YOUR SUCKY SERVER

[Mykel]

lol, well, we can change the name i guess, but i dont think its that big of a deal

[edit] naw its good, stop complaining plz [/edit]

[davidpsy]

roxx my boxx: grrr DUDE
SHUEYHF: what now?
roxx my boxx: wheres the damn swords
SHUEYHF: Dude
SHUEYHF: I don't even work for you
roxx my boxx: so
SHUEYHF: so?
roxx my boxx: wok
roxx my boxx: work
SHUEYHF: Why would I hurry up and make a bunch of **** for you?
roxx my boxx: cuz
SHUEYHF: nope
roxx my boxx: now *****
SHUEYHF: doesn't work that way all the time
roxx my boxx: **** u
SHUEYHF: don't call me a ****ing *****.
roxx my boxx: ur off my list
SHUEYHF: omg
SHUEYHF: What a friend you are.
roxx my boxx: and bannd
SHUEYHF: Yep and I will be showing this to Fellow Graalians. If I am banned
you will be in trouble because you have no reason.
roxx my boxx: im not gonna ban u *****
roxx my boxx: just trying to get u to work
roxx my boxx: but i am takin u off lit
SHUEYHF: lol
SHUEYHF: I will make them when I have time.
roxx my boxx: punk ass *****
SHUEYHF: Forget it. I'm not making anything for Enigma.
roxx my boxx: yeah
roxx my boxx: thats what i thought
roxx my boxx: we got better than u
SHUEYHF: I bet
SHUEYHF: Bye
ShueyHF=GhettoChild
roxxmyboxx=Warcaptain

Isn't it wonderful how nice and responsible the manager of Enigma is to
his
friends who offer to help for free?

wow, what great influence WC has on our younger players!

[Deek2]

Originally posted by davidpsy
omg
[/B]

WC had the right to, he was GC's boss. If GC obvioulsy wanted to help out for Engima, he would've helped out, not refused to do what he obviously agreed upon. I'd be pissed too if my staff didn't do what I told them to do.
Besides, how did GhettoChild even get hired o_O.

[Mykel]

Riot-Starter (Admin on delteria, <3 scripter)
said WC begged him for a month to join him.

[gHoST01]

Originally posted by Warcaptain
wow, what great influence we have on our younger players!

they need to learn about it sometime wc they need to learn

[HoudiniMan]

Originally posted by Deek2

WC had the right to, he was GC's boss. If GC obvioulsy wanted to help out for Engima, he would've helped out, not refused to do what he obviously agreed upon. I'd be pissed too if my staff didn't do what I told them to do.
Besides, how did GhettoChild even get hired o_O.

GhettoChild doesn't do work he just gets jobs and idles on RC and WC is self explanitory. End of story

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Deek2

WC had the right to, he was GC's boss. If GC obvioulsy wanted to help out for Engima, he would've helped out, not refused to do what he obviously agreed upon. I'd be pissed too if my staff didn't do what I told them to do.
Besides, how did GhettoChild even get hired o_O.

Yeah but I dont call my staff ***** I have a little whats the word respect and even my staff dont do their work all the time and they do it for free man...

[HoudiniMan]

Originally posted by davidpsy

Yeah but I dont call my staff ***** I have a little whats the word respect and even my staff dont do their work all the time and they do it for free man...

Commas are your friend, my friend.

[brock128]

Sombody find somthing bad on Enigma, and show WC a taste of his own medicine. Or somthing.

[Lyndzey]

Originally posted by gHoST01

they need to learn about it sometime wc they need to learn

I don't think these 13 year olds need to learn about humping from a computer game.

That log doesn't even sound like Warcaptain. How do you know that GhettoChild (who I do talk to and is my friend) didn't fake that log?

There's nothing wrong with pointing out things that are illegal in a server. Karsh, there's a big difference in being able to hump and an NPC that says "HUMP ME"

[Mykel]

Originally posted by Lyndzey


I don't think these 13 year olds need to learn about humping from a computer game.

That log doesn't even sound like Warcaptain. How do you know that GhettoChild (who I do talk to and is my friend) didn't fake that log?

There's nothing wrong with pointing out things that are illegal in a server. Karsh, there's a big difference in being able to hump and an NPC that says "HUMP ME"

How old are you? Obviously you are older than 13, and obviously u knew what humping was before you were 13. It is a term used throughout graal on all servers.

[TifaKhan]

Isnt it also illegal to have any sexual content?
Not that i'm surprised, second last time i checked out Delteria some guy was running around with about 10 abusive words in his name and ran up to me and called me something un repeatable. There was a staff member who had RC standing right in front of me and he did nothing.
Another time i was threatened with being hacked,jailed and banned in that order simply for being on the server, by someone who claimed to be an Admin there.
btw Personally i think its a good idea to either contact the Manager or forum pm them about things like this.
I know from experience its rather hurtful to find somebody posting something like , wow, Doomsday has a stolen graphic, their so bad.
Then if it isnt taken care of further action should be taken.

[Spark910]

Guys its not about when we learn things. Or when you learn't things. The fact of the matter is:

YOU SHOULDN'T BE PORTRATING SEXUAL CONTENT IN A GAME THAT IS ACCESABLE BY ALL AGES!

ESRB Rating Categories:

EC = Early Childhood: content suitable for children ages three and older
E = Everyone: content suitable for children ages six and older
T = Teen: content suitable for persons ages 13 and older
M = Mature: content suitable for persons 17 and older
A = Adults Only: content suitable only for adults

And:

Mature Audience. The program may be unsuitable for children under age 17. It contains graphic violence (V), strong sexual content (S), and/or crude, indecent language (L).

If something with sexual content in is not lawfuly acceptable by anyone under that age of 17, then it shouldn't be on graal at all.

[draygin]

WC's complaints are valid. The only thing that might be bad about it is how he's going about making the problems known. He should first contact the admins notify them. Then if the problem persists. Contact Nemesis or possibly at that time make a thread. But all in all he is completely right. That shouldnt be on any graal server.

[DarkHero]

Graal is getting worse and worse because they think they can get away with stuff, but what WC showed makes me really pist because Delteria used to be a clean server. What happend!?

[Warcaptain]

I did tell riotstarter, but he ignored me and announced some new event.

So I decided to post here and hoping nemesis would see, because he was busy before when I talked to him on ICQ

Whats with everyone saying im doing this to hide my own server.

I have nothing illigal on my server, if I did than it might make sense.
Im not exploiting crappy levels or whatever, so why would I use it to cover up my world?

I never claim enigma is the best server, because it isnt.

I add things to enigma when I have time, but Im usualy working on new enigma or enigma online.

Having an npc specificaly for humping isnt the same as having the ability to do it on your own
You can curse and say bad words by just typing it, but its different than having an npc that sets your chat to 'IM GOING TO ****ING KILL YOU *****'

So we should take away players ability to chat because they can say bad words?
No

Heres an easy 2 step process you should follow:

Think -> Speak
Make sure you do it in that order, because it seems you are getting them mixed up, or maybe just skipping a step.

[brock128]

Originally posted by Warcaptain
post

Well stop trying to bump off other servers.

Originally posted by Spark910
Mature Audience. The program may be unsuitable for children under age 17. It contains graphic violence (V), strong sexual content (S), and/or crude, indecent language (L).

If something with sexual content in is not lawfuly acceptable by anyone under that age of 17, then it shouldn't be on graal at all.

ESRB does not = the law, much to my dismay.

[Mykel]

Listen, we walk around and kill eachother. That is one of the main focus's(sp?) of the game. Lets take that out too, right? Delteria IS a clean server, WC, focus on ur own server, and leave us alone. Tifa, I can guarentee (sp?) that no actual admin threatened to hack you. And please report who was the one who was on RC and did nothing. Dont be *****ic guys. We can sit here and go around acting like we are humping eachother, and killing eachother, but cant see the text: Hump Me?
It is supposed to be funny, because now on graal you can't hump and actual person (although u can push on them).
So please shutup.

[EDIT]WC, if u have any problems, plz contact on aim: Cloven DC
hes the co-manager[/EDIT]
[EDIT2]SP Agent is the Manager, his e-mail is [email protected] and he removed the NPC, now plz ****[/EDIT2]

[Deek2]

I reread that log, and whoever said it was edited was quite right. Warcaptain does not make that many typing errors, and he hardly ever cusses. I've pissed him off alot, and he doesn't act like that when he's mad.

[PrinceDark]

A lot of playerworlds have offensive content on it. They just don't get reported for it. There's actually a lot more on Delteria that is much worse than that 'Hump Me!' npc.
Same with many other playerworlds. The problem is this stuff is not looked at by the pw staff because they are lazy and just give everyone RC, and rights to upload stuff.

[TifaKhan]

I deleted rape.gani on DD because i believe that kind of stuff is illegal.
btw the *Admin* was taken care of by Nemesis and the staff member , well i'd rather not mention him.
And knowing how hard it is to actually get hold of Nemesis maybe it was right to bring it to the forums so people can give their views on it.

[Mykel]

Originally posted by PrinceDark
A lot of playerworlds have offensive content on it. They just don't get reported for it. There's actually a lot more on Delteria that is much worse than that 'Hump Me!' npc.
Same with many other playerworlds. The problem is this stuff is not looked at by the pw staff because they are lazy and just give everyone RC, and rights to upload stuff.

please name something.

[voicedcow6666]

heh...I was the one that made and uploaded that NPC onto Delteria...whoopy!!!!

It's friggin stupid if you're not mature enough to handle it...-_-

You have to be 13 years old to play graal...that is for damn sure PG13...hell, they cuss in cartoons on the Cartoon Network!!!

Seriously though, if you can't handle something so small...you're pathetic and should get a shrink.

And you can't say "oh, it's sexual content, it's too bad for young kids to see"...crap...that's not sexually offensive at all...if it is to you, as I said, you need to see a shrink...it shows no bodily parts...it shows movements, movements of gani's, default gani's at that...If you can't have that, might as well take swords, bombs, arrows, and every other NPC that causes damage towards players, because it's a whole lot worse...

Seriously now...grow up people...

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by voicedcow6666
heh...I was the one that made and uploaded that NPC onto Delteria...whoopy!!!!

It's friggin stupid if you're not mature enough to handle it...-_-

It's hilarious that you are labelling people as 'immature' for not appreciating your childish humour. In any case, you do not decide what is and isn't appropriate for Graal so your opinion is of very little consequence.

Mykel, I know it's hard to find good scripters, but surely you can get somebody better than this incompetent fool?

[voicedcow6666]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


It's hilarious that you are labelling people as 'immature' for not appreciating your childish humour. In any case, you do not decide what is and isn't appropriate for Graal so your opinion is of very little consequence.

Mykel, I know it's hard to find good scripters, but surely you can get somebody better than this incompetent fool?

Heh, your ignorance amuses me.

And I'm not saying people are immature for not being able to "appreciate my childish humour", though for the fact that they can't handle something so small and petty....

I didn't make the NPC for me, either...I could care less about it. Truth of that matter is the majority of Graal players go around humping objects on Graal...I think it's friggin stuipd, but...I don't care. I give the players what makes them happy, that made them happy. It's a hell of a lot easier just pressing D than it is uses a series of buttons you can only do in certain places...

Seriously...it's a small and petty NPC...Something the players liked...GROW UP.


You said that I don't decide what is and isn't appropriate for Graal....true...though neither do you, WC, or anyone else that's posted in this thread...So you can't say much without being a hypocrite...

[HoudiniMan]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


It's hilarious that you are labelling people as 'immature' for not appreciating your childish humour. In any case, you do not decide what is and isn't appropriate for Graal so your opinion is of very little consequence.

Mykel, I know it's hard to find good scripters, but surely you can get somebody better than this incompetent fool?

I was actually demoted from NPC Admin recently and mr. voiced cow, also known as Zega, was promoted to it (for the second time since i've been working there)...

But he can script somewhat

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by voicedcow6666
Heh, your ignorance amuses me.

Easy words to say, kid, but you'll have trouble justifying them.

And I'm not saying people are immature for not being able to "appreciate my childish humour", though for the fact that they can't handle something so small and petty....

It's not about 'handling' it, it's about expressing their distaste over what is essentially a juvenile attempt at humour.

Seriously...it's a small and petty NPC...Something the players liked...GROW UP.

Still you seem to misunderstand the reason people are complaining.

1) You say that it happens all the time and that makes it okay. No. You are making an age-old jump of illogic. The existence of bad stuff does not excuse the introduction of more bad stuff.
2) With your childish humour you are cheapening Graal and Delteria itself (though, admittedly, the latter doesn't need much help in that regard). Before, people were abusing an animation to make the pretense that they are engaging in a sexual act. Any outside observer could conclude that it is their fault. With the introduction of your NPC comes the official condonement of the action, and it becomes your fault, along with the fault of Delteria and Graal as a whole.

You said that I don't decide what is and isn't appropriate for Graal....true...though neither do you, WC, or anyone else that's posted in this thread

I never said that I do. However, I am aware of the opinions of those in charge, and can voice them without exhibiting any kind of hypocrisy.

Originally posted by HoudiniMan
But he can script somewhat

Perhaps by Delteria's standards, but scripting generally requires some degree of intelligence, so I'm doubtful of his abilities.

[PrinceDark]

You have to be 13 years old to play graal...that is for damn sure PG13...hell, they cuss in cartoons on the Cartoon Network!!!

People less than 13 can still play as long as they have their parents approval.

They say some cuss words on Cartoon Network, nothing extremely explicit though and not during their regular hours of 3:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m.
The other times where some adult content is shown are for the adult swim cartoons and warnings is given before every single cartoon shown in case parents do let their children watch.

[voicedcow6666]

heh, you say I'd have trouble finding justification saying that...Though I could say the same to your "incompetent fool" remark, as you have no ability to judge my competence nor call me a fool.


You say it's a "juvenile attempt at humour"...though aren't the majority of Graal players in fact juveniles? Hmm....Then you say they are expressing their distaste over it? Then again...back to the point of "growing up"...there are a lot of things in the world that you aren't going to like and which may not be tasteful, but you can't do anything about them...being able to deal with those things is part of growing up...try it sometime.


Hmm...You speak as though a player having the ability to "hump" an object is bad? What planet were you born on? You must still be, and forever will be, a virgin if this is your train of thought.


And how am I cheapening Graal and Delteria with this? Because people happen to use it as a sexual activity towards one another? Again, what planet were you born on? Take a look around, the entire world is fluttered with this type of activity, everywhere you look...This brings me back to the "grow up" part...


You know the opinions of those in charge, hmm? Have you personally asked them about this? I've yet to see them post about it. I sure as hell can't read their minds, can you? Do you have some kind of telapathic power which no one is aware about? What am I thinking right NOW?


heh, and yet again...you challenge my intelligence, where you have no room to speak. You do not know me, you've never sat down and held a conversation with me...You judge my intelligence by a NPC I made...that's pretty pathetic....

[voicedcow6666]

Heh...also, I just went through all of the GraalOnline documents, rules, pricacy statements, etc. and found nothing against it. Once they add something in there that says it's illegal, or I am directly told by someone with power over that...I really have no need to listen or continue with this. Good day.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by voicedcow6666
heh, you say I'd have trouble finding justification saying that...Though I could say the same to your "incompetent fool" remark, as you have no ability to judge my competence nor call me a fool.

At numerous points during this thread I have pointed out idiotic errors of logic on your part that more than justify my statement.

You say it's a "juvenile attempt at humour"...though aren't the majority of Graal players in fact juveniles?

The majority, perhaps. So? There are players with mental ages greater than thirteen, and they shouldn't be subjected to your puerile creations.

Hmm....Then you say they are expressing their distaste over it? Then again...back to the point of "growing up"...there are a lot of things in the world that you aren't going to like and which may not be tasteful, but you can't do anything about them...being able to deal with those things is part of growing up...try it sometime.

Don't be so stupid. Expressing a dislike of something is hardly indicative of immaturity, regardless of whether or not you have the power to change it. Jeez, dude, I don't even need to justify calling you an incompetent fool - you're doing it all for me.

Hmm...You speak as though a player having the ability to "hump" an object is bad? What planet were you born on? You must still be, and forever will be, a virgin if this is your train of thought.

Indeed it is bad. Sex is something of a taboo in society, especially when dealing with younger audiences - hence the fact that there are very few remotely sexual references in cartoons. Giving people the ability to do this condones the act of 'raping' other players. It's simply distasteful.

And how am I cheapening Graal and Delteria with this? Because people happen to use it as a sexual activity towards one another?

Yes. Again I state that social standards classify this as being distasteful. Whether or not this is logical is irrelevant. You might have your own standards, but they don't matter. You are not the only person playing the game, so yours is not the only opinion that matters.

You know the opinions of those in charge, hmm? Have you personally asked them about this?

About this kind of matter, yes.

heh, and yet again...you challenge my intelligence, where you have no room to speak. You do not know me, you've never sat down and held a conversation with me...You judge my intelligence by a NPC I made...that's pretty pathetic....

By an NPC you made and by your ridiculous arguments on this forum. I have no room to speak? It's highly amusing that you criticise me for insulting your intelligence without knowing you, while simultaneously doing exactly the same thing to me.