About all the problems

unixmad · #1 02-26-2002, 03:38 AM

It's sad to see that when there is problems peoples don't talk and just say "I am leaving or that's bad"...

I have put time to explain that I will make my best to reorganize the team and make peoples focus on there task and not on making them more powerful.

If your goal is to thread me, your are out of luck since I don’t like to take decisions under pressure, I prefer that everyone explain his/her point of view and I take decisions.

If now you think you can not wait or that I will take decision because of your pressure it’s better to leave, the game was running before you and will run after you and all this is just pushing me to take more full time staff and less players to help.

Sir_Gareth · #2 02-26-2002, 03:40 AM

So your saying your looking for more staff?

gozen · #3 02-26-2002, 03:40 AM

G'Job unixmad your english is getting better

still not perfect
lets see
make peoples is make people

Falcor · #4 02-26-2002, 03:42 AM

Fair enough, but what of those who DO stay? will they be fired?

unixmad · #5 02-26-2002, 03:42 AM

We will have next week a new full time staff there in the cyberjoueurs Paris office to do scripting and help Stefan.

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
So your saying your looking for more staff?

View GraalOnline Profile · #6 02-26-2002, 03:42 AM

from my perspective, it seems that everyone wants to crucify contego because of some stuff he's done, and thats why many staff have quit.

unixmad · #7 02-26-2002, 03:43 AM

Like i said i don't want to fire anyone ! Everyone must understand it's a game and we are there to have fun not to fight.

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Originally posted by Falcor
Fair enough, but what of those who DO stay? will they be fired?

Sir_Gareth · #8 02-26-2002, 03:43 AM

If there is always problem with players that help us, then we will have less players to help and more full time profesionnal staff, that's where all this fight make me going...

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Originally posted by unixmad
We will have next week a new full time staff there in the cyberjoueurs Paris office to do scripting and help Stefan.

Hmm I dont get that, so people at the cyberjouers will be helping stefan and you wont get players to become staff?

Falcor · #9 02-26-2002, 03:44 AM

So no more player-oriented projects? But that is my whole reason for staying on graal, if i can't script, I dont wanna play/pay

AlkarenHyralt · #10 02-26-2002, 03:46 AM

We have tried to talk before and it has not worked. contego rc was supposdley dropped to level 1; he has all rights still though so infact he never lost any power.

We do not want to hurt you or try to hurt graal. We will not stand by though and put up with contego arrogance and ego.

unixmad · #11 02-26-2002, 03:47 AM

Thank's a lot ! That make me very proud

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Originally posted by gozen
G'Job unixmad your english is getting better
still not perfect
lets see
make peoples is make people

cds96 · #12 02-26-2002, 03:49 AM

picture perfect english

but who is the new guild admin?

Birdbird_0 · #13 02-26-2002, 03:49 AM

I'm not upset at what he did power wise, because it would of all been fixed afterwords. But his disposition twords me, the utter insult to me as a person not a staff member or anything else. Thats what got me upset, I would of not taken that even if i was not staff. That is why I got upset, the fact that he said that to me than continued to claim he was the assitant GM, it just discusted me that he could conintue with his conduct like that.

Gangster88 · #14 02-26-2002, 03:49 AM

I still dont get why all the rcs got level 1 now they cant do anything.

AlkarenHyralt · #15 02-26-2002, 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Thank's a lot ! That make me very proud

Yes your english has improved.

Falcor · #16 02-26-2002, 03:50 AM

LvL 1 RC with level 3-4 rights isnt really a change =\ only problem is that you cant do certain stuff.

unixmad · #17 02-26-2002, 03:50 AM

That's false Contego is level 1 like all other Staff.

The only staff that need level 4 is the one that manage accounts (james205).

Like i said we go more on local rights and i hope to cancel in the near future general rights, staff need to have rights for making there job and not global rights that make them god.

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
We have tried to talk before and it has not worked. contego rc was supposdley dropped to level 1; he has all rights still though so infact he never lost any power.

We do not want to hurt you or try to hurt graal. We will not stand by though and put up with contego arrogance and ego.

gozen · #18 02-26-2002, 03:52 AM

in the first years of graal, whoa, heh
contego was nice in classic.

AlkarenHyralt · #19 02-26-2002, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
That's false Contego is level 1 like all other Staff.

The only staff that need level 4 is the one that manage accounts (james205).

Like i said we go more on local rights and i hope to cancel in the near future general rights, staff need to have rights for making there job and not global rights that make them god.

I watched him set rights last night, and loriel loaded his rights earlier tiday and he had all of them

Falcor · #20 02-26-2002, 03:56 AM

rights are different than levels. he has a level 1 rc, but local level4 rights.

Wing · #21 02-26-2002, 03:56 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
That's false Contego is level 1 like all other Staff.

The only staff that need level 4 is the one that manage accounts (james205).

Like i said we go more on local rights and i hope to cancel in the near future general rights, staff need to have rights for making there job and not global rights that make them god.

I whole heartedly agree!

(Your english IS getting better)

Soto2001 · #22 02-26-2002, 04:04 AM

well hopefully everything goes back to normal

Krakken · #23 02-26-2002, 04:05 AM

Arg, I wish you would all lay off of contego. He is a very nice person. Why do you all want to kill people when they do something wrong? Like unixmad said, Graal is for fun not fighting.

If you really want to hate contego so much then please do that by yourself and stop making others have read about what you think of him.

Soto2001 · #24 02-26-2002, 04:11 AM

im sure everyone is going to come back cept prolly lorie cause he owns a server an would be working for 2k2

Kaimetsu · #25 02-26-2002, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by Krakken
Arg, I wish you would all lay off of contego. He is a very nice person. Why do you all want to kill people when they do one wrong thing? Like unixmad said, Graal is for fun not fighting.

If you really want to hate contego so much then please do that by yourself and stop making others have read about what you think of him.

Contego, a very nice person? He wasn't very nice in that log.

Krakken · #26 02-26-2002, 04:18 AM

Uhm, which log is this?

Kaimetsu · #27 02-26-2002, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Krakken
Uhm, which log is this?

The one where he banned Birdbird.

Torankusu · #28 02-26-2002, 04:23 AM

Here.

Wait. I can't upload it because it's .doc.

Falcor · #29 02-26-2002, 04:24 AM

zip files however,...

Torankusu · #30 02-26-2002, 04:28 AM

Right.

This might not be all of it. I got it from Brad.

Lyndzey · #31 02-26-2002, 04:42 AM

I finally am happy to see you do something about global RCs, unixmad. I'm not calling the global RCs corrupt, I'm saying they don't need all those rights. What about AMs though? Shouldn't they get level 4 to help out James? James will have a lot of work to do...

Please lay off Contego. Contego simply came on to say that he was in the PROCESS to fire Torankusu. He does not fire anyone without talking to Unixmad. If you get to know him, he's a great guy and will make staff good.

Hulk Hogan · #32 02-26-2002, 04:53 AM

Contego is a nice person

A couple people start saying they dont like him then you see newbies go along with them and make it worse....

Unixmad that is the BEST quote I've read in awhile

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I hope I dont get fired as ART Admin

I've been it for months now....

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Everyone must understand it's a game and we are there to have fun not to fight.

Falcor · #33 02-26-2002, 05:24 AM

But think of it this way, would people not like him for no aparent reason? It depends, you cannot say everyone should universaly like someon, nore can anyone say you should universaly hate someone, they state their opinion.

Faheria_GP2 · #34 02-26-2002, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Thank's a lot ! That make me very proud

well, there are a few issues with your english, but none that are very noticable...like the apostrophie on "thanks", or the fact that "make" should be "makes"

just being helpful

but it is improved from the last time I have seen you post

do you still do that funny thing where the "-ing" verbs have an "s" at the end? haha, we always laugh at that

Valder · #35 02-26-2002, 05:35 AM

Unixmad, I would like to talk to you, please log onto ICQ

Warcaptain · #36 02-26-2002, 05:38 AM

I agree.

Contego is giving Graal the 'spring cleaning' for staff that it needs.

All those staff who are leaving, don't even diserve to be staff.
So times are rough now?
The ammount of power you have should not affect the ammount of work you do. Should It?
If you are quitting now because of this, then please do not come back, you do not diserve a job. You should not be so hasty to point fingers, when the fingers are pointing right back at you.

Power hungry, corrupt admins. That is what you are.
And if you cant take an rc level drop, then dont come back please.

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Originally posted by Krakken
Arg, I wish you would all lay off of contego. He is a very nice person. Why do you all want to kill people when they do something wrong? Like unixmad said, Graal is for fun not fighting.

If you really want to hate contego so much then please do that by yourself and stop making others have read about what you think of him.

nyghtGT · #37 02-26-2002, 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by TDK_Admin2
from my perspective, it seems that everyone wants to crucify contego because of some stuff he's done, and thats why many staff have quit.

Torankusu · #38 02-26-2002, 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
I finally am happy to see you do something about global RCs, unixmad. I'm not calling the global RCs corrupt, I'm saying they don't need all those rights. What about AMs though? Shouldn't they get level 4 to help out James? James will have a lot of work to do...

Please lay off Contego. Contego simply came on to say that he was in the PROCESS to fire Torankusu. He does not fire anyone without talking to Unixmad. If you get to know him, he's a great guy and will make staff good.

uhm. he comes on and takes my tags. That is not the a process of talking to unixmad. I doubt unixmad even knows I am staff there.

Sparkplug · #39 02-26-2002, 06:01 AM

Yea contego is nice if you got to know him. What staff will be 'laid off' when you hire people to help? Like will Police, Faq, and ET be or only the High Admins.

Beowulf2 · #40 02-26-2002, 06:37 AM

From what was in that log, not only is Contego a self-centered, pompous ass, he also talks utter nonsense through the entire log. Example, and I paraphrase: "NO! Playerworld Reviewers inspect playerworlds and Playerworld Inspectors review them!!"
I mean, that just blew my mind how idiotic some of his statements were. Even though I've not liked Bird in the past, I've gained a lot of respect for him through reading that log and even more respect for Alkaren and Soto. Whoever this "nem" person is, he seems to be kissing Contego's ass, but whatever. I think that the staff were justified in leaving with such a high-rolling bastard presiding over them.

birdbird.respects++;
alkaren.respects++;
unixmad.respects++;
contego.respects--;