Chat room?

Graal518 · #1 02-11-2002, 06:33 AM

People use these boards as chatrooms so much then why isn't there a graal chat room for people with pay to play accounts. Some sort of java applet. Or small downloadable program. The conversations people have over here are ridiculas, aswell as the fights, arguements, etc.. It would all work best In a chatroom I'd say.

Good idea, bad idea?

Torankusu · #2 02-11-2002, 06:36 AM

Uhm, graal's lack of updates has already turned it into a chat room.

Graal518 · #3 02-11-2002, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Uhm, graal's lack of updates has already turned it into a chat room.

That.... is.... true.....
So everyone is paying for a chatroom where they can see other 'chatters'. Brilliant.

Still, it's just that the boards are used like they are, maybe a chat room (Other then Graal) would be useful.

FFusion · #4 02-11-2002, 06:44 AM

isnt there a graal chatroom on IRC?

Graal518 · #5 02-11-2002, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by FFusion
isnt there a graal chatroom on IRC?

I wouldn't know, I was talking about like an applet one anyway.
I don't think it would be used by many people anyway is it (The IRC one).

Torankusu · #6 02-11-2002, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by FFusion
isnt there a graal chatroom on IRC?

in lycia's control.

TrueHeaT · #7 02-11-2002, 06:48 AM

Graal 2002 has a built in chat room.

milotheman · #8 02-11-2002, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
in lycia's control.

y dont you make another one?

Googi · #9 02-11-2002, 06:55 AM

toall:

Torankusu · #10 02-11-2002, 06:55 AM

i don't use or know how to use IRC.

milotheman · #11 02-11-2002, 06:56 AM

Graal518 · #12 02-11-2002, 06:58 AM

I didn't mean an IN GAME CHAT ROOM. I meant a Chat room for a WEBSITE, that's for whoever that guy is who said 'toall'

Mustang1988 · #13 02-11-2002, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by Graal518
I didn't mean an IN GAME CHAT ROOM. I meant a Chat room for a WEBSITE, that's for whoever that guy is who said 'toall'

Don't worry, he's stupid.

Didn't the old GraalOnline website have a chat room?

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #14 02-11-2002, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Uhm, graal's lack of updates has already turned it into a chat room.

Graal518 · #15 02-11-2002, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Mustang1988

Don't worry, he's stupid.

Didn't the old GraalOnline website have a chat room?

I don't recall. Haha at your sig, I work at mcdonalds...

As for (Lack of updates make graal a chatroom) that still doesnt solve that people have their arguements,discussions, fights here.

Banjo180 · #16 02-11-2002, 10:03 AM

*starts to talk but dismisses it*....*continues to pet the cat on his lap*

Echos · #17 02-11-2002, 10:35 AM

Graal did used to have a chatroom, but the irc server is down, and I forget the address, but it was on graal3d.com , too bad that site isn't there anymore. Actually, that site was ugly, but it was made by Antago, so that's understandable.

Lycia runs a Graal Chatroom, but, well, Lycia has a... strong personality, and at times is very biased.

Graal518 · #18 02-12-2002, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Gspeed2000
I agree with this fully

So? I think their should be a chat room on the graal2001 site! Just give it a try! (For regestered memebers only of course)

Faheria_LAT1 · #19 02-12-2002, 10:20 AM

mmmmkay: Yes, and then people like Sac can flood it with spam!

Lycia · #20 02-12-2002, 05:42 PM

I run an IRC channel, that has been the most successful Graal Online-oriented chatroom in the history of the game. Yes, we get idiots there, but, then again, every channel on all IRC networks are subjected to it.

I behave very differently on IRC. I'm not as egotistic and power-hungry on it. I've been on IRC for 7 years now and I know a thing or two about how to run a channel.

I don't act like I do on Graal on my channel. I'm more laid back and I allow more on the channel. Hell, even unixmad's been there twice, and he said "Thanks for hosting this chat room."

unixmad's also said he's going to make weekly visits to it, so, that should say something about how the channel is ran. He likes the channel.

I really wish you people would just knock off the anti-Lycia crap. It gets old pretty fast. I am honestly not that bad of a person, and hell, even SG111 has nothing against me anymore. Neither does some of the SG111 site's staff. If that doesn't say anything about how I am, then I don't know what is.

Anyway, I fully support a channel, but, not java-based or Graal-game based. Java is too buggy, and people complain about lag too much for a chat room on the game.

mIRC takes up very little resources, its easy to use, and hell, even a person on a 486x66 can use it and not have it lag up their computer.

Anyway, I'm going to do a bit of spamming here.

http://www.mirc.co.uk Pick up mIRC, then install it. Then, when you load up the program, fill in your information (not real), and then hit okay.

Then, in your status screen, type: /server irc.alphanine.com

Then, when you've connected, type /join #Graal

Then you're there!

The rules of the channel and how things are run there are under construction. Things will be more smoothly ran there, and there won't be any power abuse there. I really don't accept it.

So, come check it out.

Kaimetsu · #21 02-12-2002, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Lycia
I run an IRC channel, that has been the most successful Graal Online-oriented chatroom in the history of the game. Yes, we get idiots there, but, then again, every channel on all IRC networks are subjected to it.

Still, most channels try not to give them co-founder status

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I behave very differently on IRC. I'm not as egotistic and power-hungry on it. I've been on IRC for 7 years now and I know a thing or two about how to run a channel.

I don't really know if I can contest this. If you want the channel to be as it is then sure, you've succeeded. It just doesn't suit my standards.

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I don't act like I do on Graal on my channel. I'm more laid back and I allow more on the channel. Hell, even unixmad's been there twice, and he said "Thanks for hosting this chat room."

I read that log. Didn't he also get harrassed by a co-founder, and start the conversation saying that he didn't like the channel being there?

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unixmad's also said he's going to make weekly visits to it, so, that should say something about how the channel is ran. He likes the channel.

He's only been there for a few minutes at a time, and when he does go he gets attacked by half of your ***** crew. I can't believe he actually likes it, the most you could say is that he feels an obligation to show up in public or something.

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I really wish you people would just knock off the anti-Lycia crap. It gets old pretty fast. I am honestly not that bad of a person, and hell, even SG111 has nothing against me anymore. Neither does some of the SG111 site's staff. If that doesn't say anything about how I am, then I don't know what is.

Personally, I have some gripes with you. But most of what I dislike is not a matter of you, but rather the people you support. By my standards you run the channel terribly because you let a whole bucket of idiots in there and give them power over everybody else. I can talk with you as a person despite disagreeing with you on occasion, but your handling of that place is more than enough to stop me from visiting. I'd wholeheartedly oppose you being in control of any official version.

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Anyway, I fully support a channel, but, not java-based or Graal-game based. Java is too buggy, and people complain about lag too much for a chat room on the game.

mIRC takes up very little resources, its easy to use, and hell, even a person on a 486x66 can use it and not have it lag up their computer.

Agreed. In-game stuff will never be as flexible or whatever, simply because mIRC has been in development for years by a dedicated programmer etc. Plus IRC gives people a choice of clients etc.

However, it could be cool if GScript was given some way of interacting with the IRC server program stuff so that players ingame could monitor and contribute to the chat.

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The rules of the channel and how things are run there are under construction. Things will be more smoothly ran there, and there won't be any power abuse there. I really don't accept it.

:-/

"It's MY channel, if you don't like it, leave!"

I suppose it's not abuse when the owner does it.

Kohojogo · #22 02-12-2002, 06:35 PM

Why not make a program like ICQ (ok i never seen it

)
but after what i know it's a kind of chat and so...
well i mean, a program u download from site and can: chat, send files to some one, e-mail and more...

Bird2prey · #23 02-12-2002, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Kohojogo
Why not make a program like ICQ (ok i never seen it )
but after what i know it's a kind of chat and so...
well i mean, a program u download from site and can: chat, send files to some one, e-mail and more...

Unfortunately that "and more..." represents the lack of any more ideas.

Kohojogo · #24 02-12-2002, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey

Unfortunately that "and more..." represents the lack of any more ideas.

Hmm... what should be at the program if it get made?

slp · #25 02-12-2002, 07:05 PM

mabie there could be a chat room withing the graal exe, here is how

. Ok on the first screen you get it ask's for acount name and password, language and nickname, alone with the options, train, and start, well then you have everything set, press start, and on the next screen, which is the server list, there should be a chat in there, so you can talk to friends and see what server you want to go on and stuff like that, also you can talk to people with now pay acounts and such.

Just a neat little idea, it can also be used when playing graal such as pressing f8 while playing, though mabie it should d/c you if you do that back to the server list.

Birdbird_0 · #26 02-12-2002, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by slp
mabie there could be a chat room withing the graal exe, here is how . Ok on the first screen you get it ask's for acount name and password, language and nickname, alone with the options, train, and start, well then you have everything set, press start, and on the next screen, which is the server list, there should be a chat in there, so you can talk to friends and see what server you want to go on and stuff like that, also you can talk to people with now pay acounts and such.

Just a neat little idea, it can also be used when playing graal such as pressing f8 while playing, though mabie it should d/c you if you do that back to the server list.

Falados has already made a cupple chat npcs, and some other things related to that, you should see Fahairas, it has chat rooms and bleh, nice sutff

slp · #27 02-12-2002, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0

Falados has already made a cupple chat npcs, and some other things related to that, you should see Fahairas, it has chat rooms and bleh, nice sutff

yea i hear it is really nice

*Goes to check it out

Lycia · #28 02-12-2002, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
<insert long thing by Kaimetsu>

As I've mentioned above, I am going to revise the rules in the channel and start cracking down on how the channel is ran.

Mostly because I want it to become somewhat official and because I want more users.

I've stopped the whole "This is my channel, don't like it, leave" crap mostly.

As for my co-founders insulting unixmad, I am going to discuss with each one individually that if they cannot control their hatred in that channel, that I'm going to ask them to either step down as co-founder or simply leave. I want a positive environment in #Graal, and it cannot be achieved with anti-Graal people.

I am fixing it up. I just need a bit of time.

View GraalOnline Profile · #29 02-12-2002, 07:39 PM

There should be a chatroom button in graal, when your on a p2p server... I have alot of good ideals for graal... later when i get home from school i am going to post a new thread with a list of stuff, and some screenshots....

Kaimetsu · #30 02-12-2002, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Lycia

As I've mentioned above, I am going to revise the rules in the channel and start cracking down on how the channel is ran.

Again? Well, it's better than you not bothering, I suppose. Key areas to work on:

Democracy. Co-founders, whoever they may be, should have a say.
Hate. It shouldn't be anti-Graal otherwise it defeats the objective.
SPAM. I don't need to say much on this issue

If it became official with some custom coding then it'd rock. The ability to ban users by P2P account rather than by IP would make it so much easier to control, for example.

Lycia · #31 02-12-2002, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Again? Well, it's better than you not bothering, I suppose. Key areas to work on:

Democracy. Co-founders, whoever they may be, should have a say.
Hate. It shouldn't be anti-Graal otherwise it defeats the objective.
SPAM. I don't need to say much on this issue

If it became official with some custom coding then it'd rock. The ability to ban users by P2P account rather than by IP would make it so much easier to control, for example.

Uhm, I think anyone should be allowed to use the IRC channel -- pay to play or not. It doesn't take much server power to run an IRCD.

As far as the co-foundership, I'm going to be stripping quite a few co-founders of their power simply because we do not need 982374 co-founders. Besides, Zulithe is the actual co-founder, and he should have his power only, and the rest should be SOP'ed.

As far as hate goes, all I can say is, theres hate even on these boards, so we cannot govern it in the IRC channel.

Spam -- Again, it happens even on these boards, but, I see your point. It does get annoying sometimes, and I feel that it should be left for a set hour when everyone can spam the channel. Like, have an hour everyday where people can spam their hearts out on the IRC channel.

It's not hard, heh.

AlkarenHyralt · #32 02-12-2002, 10:00 PM

Feh, if I wasn't so lazy I'd run an ircd for graal. If I could find some place to run on again. And after I relearned IRC scripting.

Kaimetsu · #33 02-13-2002, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by Lycia

Uhm, I think anyone should be allowed to use the IRC channel -- pay to play or not. It doesn't take much server power to run an IRCD.

No, but you cannot control it if just anybody can enter. Banning doesn't necessarily stop people etc.

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As far as the co-foundership, I'm going to be stripping quite a few co-founders of their power simply because we do not need 982374 co-founders. Besides, Zulithe is the actual co-founder, and he should have his power only, and the rest should be SOP'ed.

Okay, that sounds like a very good step.

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As far as hate goes, all I can say is, theres hate even on these boards, so we cannot govern it in the IRC channel.

There's hate here, so it's okay for there to be lashings of it all over the place? I didn't say remove it altogether, I just said you should work on it. The anti-Graal theme is just offputting to any person who is actually involved with Graal.

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Spam -- Again, it happens even on these boards, but, I see your point. It does get annoying sometimes, and I feel that it should be left for a set hour when everyone can spam the channel. Like, have an hour everyday where people can spam their hearts out on the IRC channel.

That would be... interesting. I still don't see why people can't just be told to stop, though. The spam serves no real purpose, it just breaks up any potential for intelligent talk.

magicvader · #34 02-13-2002, 02:24 AM

I think a chat room would be good because id like to talk to some people while their at the other end writing not just posting

Poogle · #35 02-13-2002, 07:17 AM

Heres your chat: http://www27.brinkster.com/logota/chating.htm or click here!

TrueHeaT · #36 02-13-2002, 07:20 AM

The built in 2002 chat is all we will need.

Echos · #37 02-13-2002, 09:38 AM

I have just made a Graal chatroom, if anybody wants to use it. I will treat it proffesionally if anybody wants to get in. Not a single person will get @ off the bat, unless they are Stefan or Unixmad. Any Graal Online Staff can have a + however.

server: ftsmith.ar.us.damaged.net
room: #Graal-Online

I look forward to anybody who wishes to join the conversation there. Please do not flame or flood, and profanity is not allowed. As well, the IRC owners take no interest in the channels on the server, unless it involves something illegal or violates their rules.

Lycia · #38 02-13-2002, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Echos
I have just made a Graal chatroom, if anybody wants to use it. I will treat it proffesionally if anybody wants to get in. Not a single person will get @ off the bat, unless they are Stefan or Unixmad. Any Graal Online Staff can have a + however.

server: ftsmith.ar.us.damaged.net
room: #Graal-Online

I look forward to anybody who wishes to join the conversation there. Please do not flame or flood, and profanity is not allowed. As well, the IRC owners take no interest in the channels on the server, unless it involves something illegal or violates their rules.

Professionally? Hahaha, you mean they have to agree with you at all times, right?

Sorry to say, but, my channel offers more freedom. Yours is ran like some military camp. I mean, at least the damn G2k1 boards aren't as anal about rules as you appear to be.

Geez.

Kaimetsu · #39 02-13-2002, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Lycia

Professionally? Hahaha, you mean they have to agree with you at all times, right?

Sorry to say, but, my channel offers more freedom. Yours is ran like some military camp. I mean, at least the damn G2k1 boards aren't as anal about rules as you appear to be.

Geez.

Lycia, Lycia, Lycia. Why treat it like a war? His just operates to a different set of standards - you may like swearing in every other word, but some find it distasteful.

Lycia · #40 02-13-2002, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Lycia, Lycia, Lycia. Why treat it like a war? His just operates to a different set of standards - you may like swearing in every other word, but some find it distasteful.

Yeah, those people find it SOOOOO distasteful, yet, they're glued to this damn board practically 24/7, and view that kind of language daily.

Fun.

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