Did you have faith in Matt(Me)?

[DarkCloud_PK]

I'm redoing this thread because first off, I'm interested in the results now, and two, to fix Kevin's obvious tampering with the poll, intentionally putting no in as the first option, I wonder why. I'll include his post, then mine. This is all so its a fair poll, I also request to thor this not be closed. Its classic related and in the classic section, no fowl here.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

First, you have the LAT Admins that would dramatically change the direction of the server or needlessly redo the scripts of the previous admins(sup Hell Raven). I think you can quote me saying "we've had more movement systems than quests", whats sad is, what I said was true. This stagnated the speed of development of non event content dramatically, stagnating anything not related to events.

Then, you have Storm, who allowed every LAT Admin, and GC Dev dept.(I admit we really shouldn't have made the GC practically all the content of the server), to take full control of the overall developmental direction the server went Master Storm did barely any of his duties he should as a Manager, both from chronic inactivity and his indecisiveness.

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

every LAT admin was able to dramatically change the direction of the server yet he felt he was unable to AMIRITE

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Also if you read my quote, it explains how I thought dramatically changing the direction of the server was idiotic and a reason classic was in such shambles.

i wasn't unable to change the direction, i didn't do it because it would have been ****ing stupid.

learn to read.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

i voted no.
the day i took the job, Classic was already in a coffin with the nails to close it shut not far behind. I think everyone could agree to an extent that after the dual management debacle, the servers chances of survival were low.

The problems were widespread, first off, you had 2 managers that for my period of Dev Admin, just went nearly completely inactive. Storm moreso than Thor. Nonetheless, in order to make sure needed management work got done, myself ,with the help of my development team, frequently had to essentially do tasks that the Management(that have the ability to code aswell!) should be doing.

For example:
The management duo had the task of giving me a general outline for what they wanted for the server, just a broad sense of which directions we were taking. They could never reach an agreed direction on things, thus, a couple months later, I had to take it upon myself to decide what server the direction was going to be developmentally and storylinewise. I also had to fill in for Night when he went inactive with some GC matters, mostly regarding the ticket crisis and GCs seeming collapse, me having designated some of my scarce developer resources to trying to stop GC's sinking ship.

All and all, with inactivity and all. It would have taken a miracle to get Classic back on full track. I thought I could give it my best shot and hope for the best. Apparently the problems were too great for me to fix, for that it kinda sucks.

But I voted no because I went into this thing knowing Classic was probably ****ed anyway.
I still think I had a decent growning development team. That if we had a senior member or 2 around like WD, could have really had potential. I also wish Luda would had been around as sort of a levels admin, to lead the way in the visual style of classic, as well as teach the young and eager to work tilers so they could reach their potential under him. With some extra pieces there, I think we could have made a stronger show.

[DarkCloud_PK]

i give my consent to leave this thread open jesus

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

i give my consent to leave this thread open jesus

Jesus does not return this consent.

[Mark Sir Link]

I guess I should have added another sentence to my thread saying something like:

"every LAT admin was able to turn it dramatically to the same direction - the ****ter. DC was unable to turn it another direction away from the ****ter."

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

i voted no.
the day i took the job, Classic was already in a coffin with the nails to close it shut not far behind. I think everyone could agree to an extent that after the dual management debacle, the servers chances of survival were low.

The problems were widespread, first off, you had 2 managers that for my period of Dev Admin, just went nearly completely inactive. Storm moreso than Thor. Nonetheless, in order to make sure needed management work got done, myself ,with the help of my development team, frequently had to essentially do tasks that the Management(that have the ability to code aswell!) should be doing.

For example:
The management duo had the task of giving me a general outline for what they wanted for the server, just a broad sense of which directions we were taking. They could never reach an agreed direction on things, thus, a couple months later, I had to take it upon myself to decide what server the direction was going to be developmentally and storylinewise. I also had to fill in for Night when he went inactive with some GC matters, mostly regarding the ticket crisis and GCs seeming collapse, me having designated some of my scarce developer resources to trying to stop GC's sinking ship.

All and all, with inactivity and all. It would have taken a miracle to get Classic back on full track. I thought I could give it my best shot and hope for the best. Apparently the problems were too great for me to fix, for that it kinda sucks.

But I voted no because I went into this thing knowing Classic was probably ****ed anyway.
I still think I had a decent growning development team. That if we had a senior member or 2 around like WD, could have really had potential. I also wish Luda would had been around as sort of a levels admin, to lead the way in the visual style of classic, as well as teach the young and eager to work tilers so they could reach their potential under him. With some extra pieces there, I think we could have made a stronger show.

I think it should be noted that while you had pointed the finger towards me and Storm having quit for the 999th time the one project you set that had any type of meaningful progress (despite the fact it had virtually no planning at all) actually had both me and Storm contribute alot of scripting and ideas towards it.

As far as giving you a general outline as to what to try and accomplish as admin, you were insistent that you had full creative freedom with Development.

When it comes to having a senior Developer like WhiteDragon around, it would have helped had you not caused him to quit by constantly attempting to damage his reputation by taking quotes out of their context and disconnecting him from RC for no/little reason.

But I agree, the problems definately were too great for you to fix, they were too great for me to fix, they were too great for Storm to fix, with the Development Team we had it was impossible to compete with other servers as far as constantly pumping out small updates, and with the systems/poorly made overworld/lack of written plan it was near impossible to Develop in the long term aswell.

We wiped the server at the point where we had nothing to lose, and since then we have created an entirely new set of systems which we feel is easy to work with, and alot of players have said they feel like they are using Default, with our new Sparring and Events setup I feel we are setting new standards compared to Graal as a whole and not just compared to the server before,
now we are moving onto Quest content, and for this there has been a written plan as to our approach from the very start.

[Mark Sir Link]

also LOL at poll tampering accusations, if anything no being ahead of yes did you some favors considering the results of this poll.

[Rufus]

It doesn't really matter anymore, this was months ago.

[MysticX2X]

Working on Classic's dev team with DC was fun. Aside from abusing from time to time, and talking about being high(sometimes hilarious), he had the right idea(for Classic at the time being). You can't completely put the blame on DC as Classic was in a terrible state, being very hard to work with.

[Sam]

Stop making such threads. There was already a similar thread.