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Old 12-15-2004, 07:19 AM
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Darlene is it absolutely necessary to use God's name on an ONLINE GAME message board?
Diehard christians should not be playing graal, because through GK it promotes worship of false deities.

I'm worshipping Balor now, IRL, because he is going to "put the smack down" on god.
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:42 PM
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Diehard christians should not be playing graal, because through GK it promotes worship of false deities.

I'm worshipping Balor now, IRL, because he is going to "put the smack down" on god.
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Old 12-15-2004, 11:50 PM
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DIE HARD CHRISTIAN? Are you retarded? Many other religions worship God. Think before you speak.
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Old 12-15-2004, 11:52 PM
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DIE HARD CHRISTIAN? Are you retarded? Many other religions worship God
Don't be stupid. He didn't say that only Christians need be concerned.
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:47 AM
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Don't be stupid. He didn't say that only Christians need be concerned.
Thank you Kai, yes, I am aware that christians are not the only ones that worship god or a godlike figure, however, christians are generally the most pushy when it comes to converting the rest of the world and in my experience are the first to say "You're going to hell." if you mention any other god-like figures even just for the sake of open-mindedness.

Which is why I related to them in that statement.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:44 PM
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Well then say what you intend to mean, rather than being so broad and vague
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Well then say what you intend to mean, rather than being so broad and vague
He was not vague in the slightest, and the very source of your disagreement was that he was (in your opinion) not broad enough.

Look, the root of the matter is this: He could have said "devout members of any religion that forbids worship of false idols", or he could have said "diehard Christians". Given that the latter is much more concise and covers the majority of the former anyway (within this particular audience), I think he made the right choice.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:31 AM
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He was not vague in the slightest, and the very source of your disagreement was that he was (in your opinion) not broad enough.

Look, the root of the matter is this: He could have said "devout members of any religion that forbids worship of false idols", or he could have said "diehard Christians". Given that the former is much more concise and covers the majority of the latter anyway (within this particular audience), I think he made the right choice.
Thank you once again Kai, you never cease to amaze with the ability to flame me in one post and agree with me entirely in another.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:53 AM
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Thank you once again Kai, you never cease to amaze with the ability to flame me in one post and agree with me entirely in another.
I just go with whichever side is in the right, man. It's not a personal thing.
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Old 12-17-2004, 04:46 AM
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I just go with whichever side is in the right, man. It's not a personal thing.
I must be right on a 50/50 basis, however, I was unaware that my other post was a right or wrong thing, it was more of a "Hey, this happened, to whom it may concern."
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Old 12-17-2004, 09:48 AM
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I must be right on a 50/50 basis
What is your point?

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I was unaware that my other post was a right or wrong thing
One can debate whether you were right or wrong to post this, as proven before.


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it was more of a "Hey, this happened, to whom it may concern."
But posting in this forum implies that it concerns us.
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:05 AM
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What is your point?


One can debate whether you were right or wrong to post this, as proven before.



But posting in this forum implies that it concerns us.
You're so cool Loriel, I think you're great.
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:10 PM
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I must be right on a 50/50 basis
Being right and being in the right are slightly different things. But yes, congratulations on being right occasionally.

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Imagine if a particular person returned every day to post statistics about the weather in his area, a new thread every time. Would we call this spam, perhaps? It is a fuzzy line, but it would be boring and annoying in any case. Now imagine that there are several sites dedicated to facilitating such weather-blogging, and that he has eschewed them in preference of Graal's NGRT forum. Would this person not, in your opinion, be in the wrong?
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:21 PM
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Being right and being in the right are slightly different things. But yes, congratulations on being right occasionally.

Imagine if a particular person returned every day to post statistics about the weather in his area, a new thread every time. Would we call this spam, perhaps? It is a fuzzy line, but it would be boring and annoying in any case. Now imagine that there are several sites dedicated to facilitating such weather-blogging, and that he has eschewed them in preference of Graal's NGRT forum. Would this person not, in your opinion, be in the wrong?
If he was a graal player, he would not be in the wrong, he would be an idiot, but not in the wrong.

However, I posted a single boring topic, I don't intend to do it daily, and I think being sick is relevant to the community, at least my friends, who would read it, and know why I've been down lately.
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:29 PM
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If he was a graal player, he would not be in the wrong, he would be an idiot, but not in the wrong
I'm not sure how you're defining those terms, dawg. Probably not the same way I am.

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It's only relevant to you, it has no great effect on the community. The only people who might care are the people who might know you as a person (plus Moon Goddess, who pretends to care about everything).

And the same is true, of course, of our imaginary weather-posting friend. But he should go to weatherblog.com and you should go to livejournal.com.
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:43 PM
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I'm not sure how you're defining those terms, dawg. Probably not the same way I am.



It's only relevant to you, it has no great effect on the community. The only people who might care are the people who might know you as a person (plus Moon Goddess, who pretends to care about everything).

And the same is true, of course, of our imaginary weather-posting friend. But he should go to weatherblog.com and you should go to livejournal.com.
Actually, if someone wanted to know the weather in his area, they could look it up, as there are already sites that document the weapon up to the minute around the world. There are so sites for my friends to reference up to date to tell them when I am sick, and definately not up to the minute. Anyone who would post the weather in his area daily is simply an idiot.
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:51 PM
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Actually, if someone wanted to know the weather in his area, they could look it up
If someone wanted to know how sick you were feeling, could they not IM you?
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Old 12-17-2004, 06:13 PM
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Old 12-17-2004, 06:23 PM
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If someone wanted to know how sick you were feeling, could they not IM you?
Not nessesarily how sick, but the fact that was indeed sick. Would you find it natural to open your inbox every day to 50 people asking, "Are you sick today?". That seems like a stupid and peculiar waste of time, when on the rare occasion I get sick, I could simply announce it to the surrounding community.
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Would you find it natural to open your inbox every day to 50 people asking, "Are you sick today?"
Do you really think fifty people would care?

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on the rare occasion I get sick, I could simply announce it to the surrounding community.
Or you could put it in a Livejournal!

What if every Graal user created a thread whenever he/she were sick? Would you not get tired of it, eventually? What if we expand it to all vaguely-significant events in their lives and essentially turn NGRT into a big shared journal? Would you not have a problem with it?
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:00 PM
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Do you really think fifty people would care?



Or you could put it in a Livejournal!

What if every Graal user created a thread whenever he/she were sick? Would you not get tired of it, eventually? What if we expand it to all vaguely-significant events in their lives and essentially turn NGRT into a big shared journal? Would you not have a problem with it?
What the hell do you think NGRT is? Take a look at the posts in there, that's what it's for.

NGRT == Information that is irrelevant to graal and equally useless to most other players, tada, my thread fits perfectly.
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:04 PM
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What the hell do you think NGRT is? Take a look at the posts in there, that's what it's for
No, it's for discussing matters that could potentially be interesting to other users.

Good Examples: Politics, religion, computer games, popular media.
Bad Examples: Your life, weather.

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No better than the weather guy's.
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:20 PM
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No, it's for discussing matters that could potentially be interesting to other users.
Good Examples: Politics, religion, computer games, popular media.
Bad Examples: Your life, weather.
No better than the weather guy's.
Well, since I could give a flying ass**** about pop media, religion and politics, I'd rather go with games, and rare happenings. My being sick is quite rare, so I thought I'd announce it, and you know what, my being sick could very well be potentially interesting to other users, and who are you to say that it isn't? Are you the ****ing judge by which all things relevant must pass. You're not, and because you don't find something ****ing interesting, doesn't mean there aren't others who do, or that I don't have the right to post it anyways. However, you have the right to state that you don't find it interesting, and state your opinion as such, I never told you not to, or that you should take your opinion elsewhere, I only said that it seems to me like if it wasn't interesting, you wouldn't bother wasting your time responding to it. Which also, ironically, is my opinion.

This thread should be closed, because this is extremely off topic, besides, I've already found a scripter, yet it still continues to go on endlessly on subjects that dont matter, as a matter of fact, we are in one thread, talking about another thread that we are also posting in, is that not a little disturbing to you?

Cue Darlene.
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:27 PM
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Well, since I could give a flying ass**** about pop media, religion and politics, I'd rather go with games, and rare happenings
I didn't say the forum is for discussing things that you find interesting.

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Yeah, only the imaginary ones. Something doesn't become interesting just because it's rare.

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and who are you to say that it isn't?
I'm a person with a brain. Let me now use it to highlight the hypocrisy in your position.

You yourself argued against the weather guy's daily updates. Who are you to say that his threads aren't interesting?

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This thread should be closed, because this is extremely off topic
That's not against the rules.

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I've already found a scripter, yet it still continues to go on endlessly on subjects that dont matter
If they don't matter, why are you still posting?

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we are in one thread, talking about another thread that we are also posting in, is that not a little disturbing to you?
Not particularly. I will note that you were the one to bring the issue here.
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I didn't say the forum is for discussing things that you find interesting.
No, it's for dicussing things that anyone finds interesting, and I felt that the events of that night were particularly interesting, so guess what, they are getting ****ing discussed.

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Yeah, only the imaginary ones. Something doesn't become interesting just because it's rare.
Play GK for a week and try that statement again, don't get me wrong, it's a dumb theory, I agree, but you are wrong. Not just GK, there are a whole lot of boring and uninteresting things that are rare and people suddenly find them worth talking about.

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I'm a person with a brain. Let me now use it to highlight the hypocrisy in your position.
Guess what, so am I, let me help you highlight it, who am I to say that it IS interesting, but wether or not it IS interesting is not the question.

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...it's for discussing matters that could potentially be interesting...
I am having trouble thinking of something that cannot potentially be interesting to someone, somwhere, help me, please.

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You yourself argued against the weather guy's daily updates. Who are you to say that his threads aren't interesting?
I didn't say they weren't interesting, I said they were already documented, there are websites, if someone needs weather info, they can go there.

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That's not against the rules.
Of course it's not, I didn't say that it was, but it's already in discussion elsewhere, and weren't you the very same person *****ing about large numbers of pointless threads? Where was that hypocrisy again? I'd like another helping.

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If they don't matter, why are you still posting?
Because I am home sick from work and bored out of my ****ing mind, you?

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Not particularly. I will note that you were the one to bring the issue here.
Yes, I mentioned it in another statement, what's your point?
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Old 12-17-2004, 08:12 PM
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No, it's for dicussing things that anyone finds interesting
Preferably where 'anyone' is more than one person.

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Play GK for a week and try that statement again
I am pretty sure GK doesn't disprove the statement. Here, I will prove it true:

I just used a random generator to produce the number 5317496468. This is exceedingly rare. Is it interesting?

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who am I to say that it IS interesting, but wether or not it IS interesting is not the question
Then what is?

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I am having trouble thinking of something that cannot potentially be interesting to someone, somwhere
You have a great deal to learn about interpreting language.

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I didn't say they weren't interesting, I said they were already documented
The exact conditions in the square mile in which he lives? I doubt it.

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weren't you the very same person *****ing about large numbers of pointless threads?
No, probably not.

This isn't a pointless thread. It doesn't become pointless just because you don't like something that was later posted in it. Again, this whole thing stems from a misunderstanding of language. The purpose of the thread is immutable; it is not dependent on subsequent events.

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Because I am home sick from work and bored out of my ****ing mind
Then clearly it is hypocritical for you to decry the act of discussing things that "dont matter".

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Yes, I mentioned it in another statement, what's your point?
I am merely ensuring that blame is properly attributed.
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