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Old 02-26-2002, 11:30 PM
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Re: Re: About all the problems

Try to be in conformity with your decisions if you want to leave then leave and if you stay then try to speak with peoples and don't always ask peoples to do what you want, peoples can have there own point of view that is not the same as yours.

And personally I am fed up of you asking peoples to do that or that now, you are not the manager of Graal and even if you were manager I will not accept it.

There is only 2 solutions:

1) You go take some fresh air and come back with some new ideas of what is teamwork

2) You leave and go ruling people somewhere else.

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I tried to talk to you, and talked to Stefan. It seemed impossible to find a solution.
[edit]I even talked to contego. Which made me remember why I resigned from being Zorro's Asst. last time.[/edit]

Spiffy idea, but I don't get why this hasn't been done before, and exactly happens now.

I guess my point of view is clear enough, and I really don't want to pressure anybody. I understand that you are kind of busy, but you cannot be that busy.

I am not trying to threaten you or Stefan, just trying to express how disappointed I am of you. Contego obviously is still in power, while even the simpliest requests from me get ignored for days.
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ok, maybe contego did get a little rude, I think I would too if I were attacked when he got on like he was, but look at the log as a whole, not just at what Contego did. Contego didnt get on their to cause trouble, nor to get attacked
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Re: Re: Re: About all the problems

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Try to be in conformity with your decisions if you want to leave then leave and if you stay then try to speak with peoples and don't always ask peoples to do what you want, peoples can have there own point of view that is not the same as yours.

And personally I am fed up of you asking peoples to do that or that now, you are not the manager of Graal and even if you were manager I will not accept it.

There is only 2 solutions:

1) You go take some fresh air and come back with some new ideas of what is teamwork
2) You leave and go ruling people somewhere else.

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I quit my staff position on G2k1 as I said. I don't want it back, but I never left Graal.
Yah, guess I am not supposed to ask for a little support for a PW, which would cost you half a minute at most. I mean, I asked nicely. I didn't even bother you about it, but just left a little later.
I never claimed to be manager of Graal, only Contego talks like me doing so. I have no intentions of ruling people, but I have no intentions either of being ruled in a quite unfair way by Contego, so I thought I could openly complain about him without ... well, basically everything you accuse of me of doing.

Sorry, I really don't want to be against Graal, but I feel treatened very unfair. Please try to see it from my point of view. From reading your posts, I believe you see it ultimately from contego's.
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Old 02-26-2002, 11:41 PM
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ok, maybe contego did get a little rude, I think I would too if I were attacked when he got on like he was, but look at the log as a whole, not just at what Contego did. Contego didnt get on their to cause trouble, nor to get attacked
Yea I guess, they were just trying to see why he was fired and then it led into a huge argument. Contego isn't really a bad guy, he seemed really understanding and nice to me yesterday.
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Old 02-27-2002, 07:27 AM
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Re: Re: Re: About all the problems

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Try to be in conformity with your decisions if you want to leave then leave and if you stay then try to speak with peoples and don't always ask peoples to do what you want, peoples can have there own point of view that is not the same as yours.

And personally I am fed up of you asking peoples to do that or that now, you are not the manager of Graal and even if you were manager I will not accept it.
I have to agree with you there.. Loriel has been bossy ever since I met him. He used his high staff position to tell me things I can't do which make no sense and seem like he just made up rules because he can.

Like for example, he said I wasn't allowed to upload heads into the heads folder, and that I have to submit them through the graphics submitter.. Why would I have access to the heads folder, be a graphics admin, be a developer, and not be able to add a head to the heads folder but instead, send the head through the head submitter to get it accepted, when I MAKE graphics for the server. Yet he had his own personal head in the heads folder and set it so that only he was allowed to use the head.

I highly doubt he paid for anything he had on 2k1.. including his house, and all his stuff. The only thing on my account I got using RC was a weapon that lets me look like another player, that birdbird gave me.
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Third that's incorrect syntax >=/

And that log didn't show him as a nice guy. It showed him as a punk who couldn't take the power he was given, and expressed it by trying to put himself above all of the G2K1 staff - even though he was in the wrong.
I still think it's best for everyone to wait until they hear something from Contego instead of just coming up that he is a mean admin and a total ******* as a person.
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>The Klown's post here<

He also told me that I wasn't allowed to submit heads and had to use graphic submitter

I also do doubt he "bought" anything on Graal...aswell as worked from gralats (giving yourself a large amount of money and claiming its for "test" isn't exactly sound)

and Loriel has said just no for everything I suggested without a reason why not
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I still think it's best for everyone to wait until they hear something from Contego instead of just coming up that he is a mean admin and a total ******* as a person.
I talked to him yesterday in toall, he explained a little. He seems like a nice guy.
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He also told me that I wasn't allowed to submit heads and had to use graphic submitter

I also do doubt he "bought" anything on Graal...aswell as worked from gralats (giving yourself a large amount of money and claiming its for "test" isn't exactly sound)

and Loriel has said just no for everything I suggested without a reason why not
Yeah well when I was new to 2k1 and I had bought house 6 (birdbirds house but it was actually a house back then with a crappy inside level) I asked him if he could fix the warp when you leave the house because it would warp you onto the friggin house sign and it was annoying, and he made up some bs lie saying only stefan could do that (he eventually fixed it)

When he was screwing around with crafting he made it so he could craft his rocks with one hit. He even made up some stupid rule where me and birdbird had to show him everything we were going to change/put up on 2k1.. I mean, what was the point in us having ftp if we had to send everything to him first?
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Konidias:
I have to agree with you there.. Loriel has been bossy ever since I met him. He used his high staff position to tell me things I can't do which make no sense and seem like he just made up rules because he can.
Like for example, he said I wasn't allowed to upload heads into the heads folder, and that I have to submit them through the graphics submitter.. Why would I have access to the heads folder, be a graphics admin, be a developer, and not be able to add a head to the heads folder but instead, send the head through the head submitter to get it accepted, when I MAKE graphics for the server. Yet he had his own personal head in the heads folder and set it so that only he was allowed to use the head.
I highly doubt he paid for anything he had on 2k1.. including his house, and all his stuff. The only thing on my account I got using RC was a weapon that lets me look like another player, that birdbird gave me.

Seeing G2k1 as official server, we should use the official head database, and not create our own. It's just stupid to have five recolors of your heads in the folder, while there is a no-recolors rule on the gfx submitter. This rule wasn't made up by me, but I guess you don't care as long as I stick to it.
I bought my house before I became staff, and I lost it regulary. Of course it was impossible to buy everything I have with my own money, seeing as I cannot spend that much time actually playing Graal while being staff.

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He also told me that I wasn't allowed to submit heads and had to use graphic submitter
I also do doubt he "bought" anything on Graal...aswell as worked from gralats (giving yourself a large amount of money and claiming its for "test" isn't exactly sound)
and Loriel has said just no for everything I suggested without a reason why not

Actually you need some money to test some things, but most of the time I don't have any money on my account. Call me corrupt for giving myself 3482349 gralat while testing something so I don't have to give me 10 gralats again and again...

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Yeah well when I was new to 2k1 and I had bought house 6 (birdbirds house but it was actually a house back then with a crappy inside level) I asked him if he could fix the warp when you leave the house because it would warp you onto the friggin house sign and it was annoying, and he made up some bs lie saying only stefan could do that (he eventually fixed it)
When he was screwing around with crafting he made it so he could craft his rocks with one hit. He even made up some stupid rule where me and birdbird had to show him everything we were going to change/put up on 2k1.. I mean, what was the point in us having ftp if we had to send everything to him first?

Either I didn't have FTP when you asked me to fix your house thingie (when FTP pass was changed because some admins left, and nobody telling me the new one), or it was something in the NPC Server which I didn't get access to for a long time while being staff.
Yes, that's true, while I was switching the mining/crafting system to use triggeraction, I actually set my testing axe to break a rock to the next level with one hit. The image only changes after very much hits, so I could never know if the axe actually hit the rock, without wasting a lot of time.
And I guess it's pretty useless to have someone coordinate the content on the server. I should really have let all of you to upload anything you want, even if it's blocking locations where someone else would have liked to place his stuff when finished. etc. Can't you imagine any reason why I did this?

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Contego is an AWESOME person.

I don't know why everyone thinks he's a bad guy.
haha, yeah. especially since he does not confront you when he fires/suspends you.

I probably would not have a problem with him suspending me or whatever if it wasn't for two facts:
1.) He got the Playerworld Jobs and stuff mixed up.
2.) KawaiiSaRiA did get a list, and I was cooperative to some extent. I was just following what Loriel told me.
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haha, yeah. especially since he does not confront you when he fires/suspends you.

I probably would not have a problem with him suspending me or whatever if it wasn't for two facts:
1.) He got the Playerworld Jobs and stuff mixed up.
2.) KawaiiSaRiA did get a list, and I was cooperative to some extent. I was just following what Loriel told me.
this might not be right but what I heard was you didnt cooperate therefore he fired you
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this might not be right but what I heard was you didnt cooperate therefore he fired you
Uhm. did you not read reason number two at all?
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Actually, Birdbird, Contego made up HRO. It was originally only for Classic, because the HRA did not have an upgraded account. Someone extended it to 2001.

This is exactly what happened with the Merlin thing. Please guys, just end it right here?
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I read the logs, I know what was said so bug off
And I didn't?

I will also add how you weren't on at the time that KawaiiSaRiA was asking me for a list or whatever it was she was asking for, so please, don't say I was being uncooperative and make statements based off of what Contego said.
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