Intel Mac

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Edit: Didn't see Stefan's post, but you still should say that it is very hard to play on a Mac because of poor software design, or because of lack of support.

For one thing, Graal runs very well on my PowerPC machine. It strikes me that the design of the software can't be that bad if it's running well here on what's likely a more basic computer than your own.

Second thing, Rosetta has no guarantee that what you are running inside of it will work well, if at all. That's just something you accept when you buy an Intel Mac with the intention of running PowerPC applications.

Third, I already wrote that there could be possible problems with Rosetta emulation on the Support Center Knowledgebase some months ago when I wrote those documents about Graal for Mac.

If you bought a new computer after buying your subscription to find it doesn't work, well that's your problem, not Cyberjoueurs.

If you haven't already bought an account, you can run Graal in guest mode (and previously the offline preview) to see how well it would work before buying a subscription. Nowhere on the website does it guarantee it'll work on your system, but the facility to try before you buy is there.

[Bell]

I really don't know of any game that bends over backwards as much as graal trying to fix everyones problems. Anyplace else if something doesn't work quite right they just say "sorry, can't help you"

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Bell

I really don't know of any game that bends over backwards as much as graal trying to fix everyones problems. Anyplace else if something doesn't work quite right they just say "sorry, can't help you"

ROFLMFAO

You're kidding right? You go to Stefan with a problem, he says:

Originally Posted by Stefan

hmmm

You go to unixmad with a problem and he bans you.

I no longer want a Universal version then. Make a PPC version that has all the features. This cannot be tested by trial, as you can't play many of the things you can with registered. I'm pretty sure you can't try out flash. And it's so confusing with the half-screen and what not, you'd never notice the lag.

So, when I bought registered, I bought it under the presumption that there was nothing wrong with the Mac client for PPC. WRONG!

http://graalonline.com/kingdoms/downloads/

I meet the system requirements. It doesn't say I needed a PPC mac. So therefore, I assume I can run it on a non-PPC mac. Nowhere did it tell me that it doesn't run on an Intel mac the same as a PPC mac.

If you guys eventually make a Universal version with all the features of the Windows version, i'll come back, and maybe I'll play again, but until then, you guys need to sort out what you're doing, because your current strategies are cutting out a lot of customers. (and I don't just mean the Mac strategies, I mean the trial strategies, all the new stupid subscriptions, etc)

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Nowhere did it tell me that it doesn't run on an Intel mac the same as a PPC mac.

Stop acting like games suddenly have to support mac. Consider yourself lucky they even bothered starting to support macs.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

So, when I bought registered, I bought it under the presumption that there was nothing wrong with the Mac client for PPC. WRONG!

Look, dude. You were aware of Rosetta and that it might not necessarily always work:

Originally Posted by Apple.com

Behind the scenes, Rosetta dynamically translates most of your PowerPC-based applications to work with your Intel-based Mac.

Originally Posted by Apple.com

Third-party applications that require precision real-time playback may perform better with a Universal version. For the expected arrival dates of Universal versions of third-party applications, check with their manufacturers.

Stop playing the hard done by party. If you were intending to use PowerPC applications, you should have stuck with a PowerPC machine. :/

Originally Posted by cbkbud

http://graalonline.com/kingdoms/downloads/

I meet the system requirements. It doesn't say I needed a PPC mac. So therefore, I assume I can run it on a non-PPC mac. Nowhere did it tell me that it doesn't run on an Intel mac the same as a PPC mac.

Once again: http://support.cyberjoueurs.com/inde...kb&article=102.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Look, dude. You were aware of Rosetta and that it might not necessarily always work:


Stop playing the hard done by party. If you were intending to use PowerPC applications, you should have stuck with a PowerPC machine. :/

Once again: http://support.cyberjoueurs.com/inde...kb&article=102.

First, Graal does not say anywhere on the website that is is PPC! Second, why would I go to the support center and read your article? I've already read the system requirements and recommendations, so why would I read one way off in some endless abyss of support questions?

My PPC mac (12" iBook G4), with 512 MB RAM, 1.33 GHz (I think) processor, runs it WAY better than my 15" MacBook Pro with an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz processor, and 2 GB of RAM.

Should probably mention that somewhere.

Second, my last post said I am no longer looking for an intel version. I'll run it on my PPC, k?

Now I would like to know where all the feautures that Windows has are? I listed some in my last post.

Flash
GMAP loading
timevar/timevar2
dockable playerlist
RC
level editor
graal shop
gif2mng



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Sorry, I guess I missed the part that said development tools were only for Windows. I assumed I could use them on Mac, as nothing told me otherwise.

Admins; if you aren't going to fix the Graal client, please place on the downloads page in bold "The Mac client is somewhat limited and does not contain any development tools."