Discussion of the new PWA (Split from Spark911's New Members thread)

[zell12]

Here is the way I see it, and what I told Chris.
Patience is a virtue. If he can wait about a week, he will be added. I can garentee this because there are 150 servers that need to be placed in classic, gold or private. Three people cannot do that in a fair amount of time. Besides, it would get boring or become a burden, and then people will get lazy or something.

THEN, the PWA has to maintain a watch on the classic/private servers to inspect them, write reviews, and see if there is any improvement in private servers. Heck, it will take a good team to get that done.

[Gambet]

Not only that, all the new PWA's have to be trained, they wont get much done any time soon, except some training, i think spark shouldve picked 3 members, MG,Protagonist and Chris, but i guess he knows what hes doing.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Spark910
I wasn't head of the PWA in the past, so couldnt do anything.

I'm talking about one particular person who's been a PWA member for a fairly long time, despite his unsuitability for the role.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I'm talking about one particular person who's been a PWA member for a fairly long time, despite his unsuitability for the role.

I think I have an idea of to whom you are talking about...

[Lance]

Originally posted by Gambet
HAHAHAHAHAHA, OWNED.

Hahahahahaha, mature.

Yes, most global staff have ego's more then they can handle,

Relevance?

ive never seen any gfx from chris come to think of it,

He made some rather cute tomatoes a short while ago.

and only global staff who i know that are actually working to improve graal is jagen, angel and of course stefan and unixmad,

Your omniscience and omnipresence amazes me.

i havnt seen any of the other globals do anything,

And I've never seen you do anything? Point?

then again there gonna probably make something up that they did something which is probably years old.

Unnecessary. I help out so often I need not provide examples, as they present themselves over time.

I find your statements to be egotistical, arrogant, ignorant, and stupid. You don't know enough about the global game to even stipulate as to what happens behind the scenes.

[protagonist]

This needn't turn into a poo-slinging contest. The application for the next opening starts where this application ends. When I used to hire people, I definately noticed how the runners up reacted. It gave me an idea of their attitude.

[haunter]

Originally posted by protagonist
This needn't turn into a poo-slinging contest. The application for the next opening starts where this application ends. When I used to hire people, I definately noticed how the runners up reacted. It gave me an idea of their attitude.

Take me for a ride on your magical PWA rainbow unicorn please! I want to pet the horsey...

[--Chris--]

Hm..
I could have swore I posted "Anyways congrats " under my disappointed line (guess I didn't, sorry ;p)Soo...Congrats MoonGod and Protonagonist. As for all you rambling misfits with this "omg u sox ur haev 1337 big ego"...what can you say you achieved for yourselves? I still don't doubt that my application might be better than the ones chosen which is basically my only "brag" or so to speak. Take a second to look at Spark's post concerning me and you'd see it has nothing to do with that ;p

I'd admit though; I am some-what ****y/arrogant - whatever (not to the extreme that it's much of a bad thing) but it's not because I'm "lawl gglobal staffs." That's just how I am (even in real life.) Hm... a spoil sport, my God...I don't have the right to be "disappointed"?

I also noticed a few people saying I don't do anything ._. You should learn to shut your mouths before making foolish statements and assumptions ^-^ Unfortunately you don't have GGT forum access so you wouldn't know how much copyright material and such is removed on a daily basis because of me, not to mention I assist with other PW related issues, run a kingdom on GK, Events Master on GK, develop things for Gk and 2001 and handle the FAQ team on 2k1 ;x
Got all you little buggers judging me without even seeing anything I've done, actually you have..just probably not aware it was made by me but you may feel free to contact me on aim or so (refer to profile) and I'd show you a thing or two. It's sad I'm willing to go low enough to actually do that eh? My graphic skills aren't that hot, quite a few people "pwn" me...my real talent is in ganis.

Damn I feel so bad that I'm too lazy to quote each of you individually that attempted to bash me or so and verbally knock you out. Hm..may have just turned this thread into a pointless flame war and it isn't worth my time anyway =P

Oh well, we'd just see what the future holds *flies away*

Edit: One more thing, don't say most of the global staff do nothing, for those that have; if that were true they most likely still wouldn't be here and hey, consider this...how do you think they got there in the first place? They obviously had to do earn it. What can I say about this criticizm except it was most likely brought about by envy?

[w3dg1tz8]

I'd message you on AIM, but you don't seem to be on, so I'll address it here. Firstly, your post was over-dramatized. I'm sure I'm not the only one that notices this... but when you've been addressing certain 'matters' (on the forums), your attitude isn't exactly the best to have...

Hm..
I could have swore I posted "Anyways congrats " under my disappointed line (guess I didn't, sorry ;p)Soo...Congrats MoonGod and Protonagonist. As for all you rambling misfits with this "omg u sox ur haev 1337 big ego"...what can you say you achieved for yourselves? I still don't doubt that my application might be better than the ones chosen which is basically my only "brag" or so to speak. Take a second to look at Spark's post concerning me and you'd see it has nothing to do with that ;p

People will come to you for help and be idiots and I'm sure they'll do it on purpose, it still doesn't give you the right to call them "rambling misfits"...

I also noticed a few people saying I don't do anything ._. You should learn to shut your mouths before making foolish statements and assumptions ^-^ Sadly you don't have GGT forum access so you wouldn't know how much copyright material and such is removed on a daily basis because of me, not to mention I assist with other PW related issues, run a kingdom on GK, Events Master on GK, develop things for Gk and 2001 and handle the FAQ team on 2k1 ;x
Got all you little buggers judging me without even seeing anything I've done, actually you have..just probably not aware it was made by me but you may feel free to contact me on aim or so (refer to profile) and I'd show you a thing or two. It's sad I'm willing to go low enough to actually do that eh? My graphic skills aren't that hot, quite a few people "pwn" me...my real talent is in ganis.

Woo, you're starting to remind me of a certain person on the global staff team already... are you sure you're not him? Again with your attitude, telling people to "shut their mouths" isn't going to get you far if your PWA, unless you're going to threaten to reset the parties involved, which has been done before. When you're PWA people are going to make statements and assumptions, you should go about it the best way you can without telling them to "shut their mouths" and to stop making "statements" and "accusations", because quite frankly it's going to happen and they're going to judge you. "Little buggers", again with the name calling.

Lastly, we're not trying to knock you out. I believe you have very good aspects and talents, though your bad ones are tending to show more.

Oh... I just saw this.

Edit: One more thing, don't say most of the global staff do nothing, for those that have; if that were true they most likely still wouldn't be here and hey, consider this...how do you think they got there in the first place? They obviously had to do earn it. What can I say about this criticizm except it was most likely brought about by envy?

So... you're taking everything in this thread as "criticism"? Gee, well if you act that badly towards "criticism" I'd hate to see you react to anything else. Oh god, sure... inflate your ego even more and say we "envy" the great "god", Chris!

*pray pray pray* *kissy kissy kissy* <3<3<3

[--Chris--]

I'm actually on AIM alot ;x Try again later.

Your response wasn't thought out well was it? Many of the invalid points brought about by your bad interpretation aren't even relevant to PWA. I'm not going to turn this thread into a flame war, I got what I wanted across to most people after being attacked and now it's time to pour the water on the fire.

I will comment on one thing though to give an idea to show that you don't even know what the hell you're saying:

"So... you're taking everything in this thread as "criticism"? Gee, well if you act that badly towards "criticism" I'd hate to see you react to anything else. Oh god, sure... inflate your ego even more and say we "envy" the great "god", Chris! "

I wasn't refering to myself obviously, "staff" in my statement was plural, someone also mouthed off to Lyndzey if I recall correctly and insulted global staff in general. Everything in the thread what?

Oh and thank you to all those that support me ^-^ (Is it just me or are almost all these people significant to Graal in some way? Damn, why do I even respond to the ones that aren't and try to put me down?)

[w3dg1tz8]

Yes, it wasn't thought out. Yes, I lack comprehension of simple sentences and statements. I'll stop now, have fun with **********. Damn, I said that name... too lazy to delete.

Edit: *'ed it out for fun!

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Is it just me or are almost all these people significant to Graal in some way?

Um, I see two. Not exactly an army of supporters.

To break the rule you seem to want to form: I'm relatively significant, and I don't support you

[--Chris--]

Neither are you against me? Can't tell what you're indicating >_>

"in some way" didn't mean to imply to the level as Lyndzey and Tseng, I was also refering to people that contributed such as Excal as LAT admin on 2k1 while it was the only p2p server and alive although others in Tseng and Lyndzey's caliber have like Zen ;x

I really need to stop replying ;x

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Neither are you against me? Can't tell what you're indicating >_>

I don't know how you perform as a staff member, so my appraisal is limited. However, I do know that you are arrogant to the point of obnoxiousness, and that lesser egos have caused large problems in the past. I wouldn't have chosen you for the PWA unless the competition were very weak (though, incidentally, I think you're a better candidate than one of Spark's chosen two).

[--Chris--]

These people are in no way seeking help while attacking me and other global staff members and I'm just trying to defend myself and them. Alot of things I said may have left an exceptional impression to my commonly known self. In a usual situation with reference to any job I've held (which have mostly been maintained for around a year) I haven't had much if any problems as of yet ;x Thanks for the input though Kai

[konidias]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I think you're a better candidate than one of Spark's chosen two).

You might as well just say his name. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who you're referring to.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by konidias
You might as well just say his name. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who you're referring to.

It may be obvious to people who know me (and the encounters I've had with that person), but there's no reason to spell it out to those that don't

[Spark910]

-Ignore-

[Darlene159]

You know, you really dont know how these people who were chosen are going to do, until they have had a chance to actually do their job.
Why don't you people who are saying that one or the other should'nt have been chosen (whether you mention names or not) give them a chance to actually show whether or not they can do the job?

I think it is really crappy when global staff openly voice that they are against a new member chosen. they deserve a chance, and they dont deserve to be kicked in the teeth before they even get started

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Darlene159
I think it is really crappy when global staff openly voice that they are against a new member chosen. they deserve a chance, and they dont deserve to be kicked in the teeth before they even get started

*shrugs*

This thread was created so that users could comment on the selected members. If my comment - that one of them is a bad choice - were voiced in an excessively offensive way then I'd agree with you, but I'm not even giving names. I don't think I could make it any more neutral.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

Unfortunately we have to go off what someone writes in an application and look at their past with Graal,

Didn't Vampiric Tutor's first account get a temporary global ban and eventually deleted by Unixmad?
I know for sure his first account was banned on this forum and has been banned from several playerworlds.

[protagonist]

Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend

Didn't Vampiric Tutor's first account get a temporary global ban and eventually deleted by Unixmad?
I know for sure his first account was banned on this forum and has been banned from several playerworlds.

Your knowledge is far from the truth.

1)I've never been banned on ANY playerworlds on any account that I've ever owned.

2)The forum ban was over a misunderstanding on my part, and the issue was resolved.

3)I was never temporarily globally banned. My first account works just fine and was never deleted.

I think that you are mistaking me for Brett.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Darlene159
You know, you really dont know how these people who were chosen are going to do, until they have had a chance to actually do their job.
Why don't you people who are saying that one or the other should'nt have been chosen (whether you mention names or not) give them a chance to actually show whether or not they can do the job?

I think it is really crappy when global staff openly voice that they are against a new member chosen. they deserve a chance, and they dont deserve to be kicked in the teeth before they even get started

That's kind of broad. You're arguement would lead one to believe that ANYONE should be hired for PWA because nobody knows how they'd do with the job, so we should give everyone a chance.

It's like, my friend that has never played Graal in his life should deserve a chance, because he might be incredibly good at the job. If life were that easy, we'd all have high paying jobs doing things we're good at. It's not that easy, and I don't see how you can sit here and complain about Kaimetsu's opinion. When it's just an opinion, and he has every right to make it.

You're only getting defensive because it's a semi-personal issue for you.

[syltburk]

Congratulations and good work, perhaps you can get the PWA team rolling again

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by konidias


That's kind of broad. You're arguement would lead one to believe that ANYONE should be hired for PWA because nobody knows how they'd do with the job, so we should give everyone a chance.

It's like, my friend that has never played Graal in his life should deserve a chance, because he might be incredibly good at the job. If life were that easy, we'd all have high paying jobs doing things we're good at. It's not that easy, and I don't see how you can sit here and complain about Kaimetsu's opinion. When it's just an opinion, and he has every right to make it.

You're only getting defensive because it's a semi-personal issue for you.

No, the PWA have been hired. They deserve a chance to be able to do their job without people knocking them down before they evenh start. I didnt say anything about "everyone"
Everyone had a chance to apply, but that isn't what I was talking about, so I dont know where you came up with that.

An opinion is different then globals making bets in an open forum to see who can say "I told you so" first, and making pot shots...that is unprofessional, childish, tacky, and uncalled for.

About it being personal for me? It isnt at all, I dont know who Kai and Tseng was refering to, but it doesn't matter, I would expect Global staff to act more professional than that.

Anyway, it just makes the parties involved look bad, so whatever

[Blitz_Hunter]

If I'm not mistaken , everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :o

[bo0ey]

Congrats MG! I knew you would make it as soon as you told me
But the other guy was a surprise

[haunter]

Originally posted by Blitz_Hunter
If I'm not mistaken , everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :o

I wish. Unfortunately in some places they're not

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Blitz_Hunter
If I'm not mistaken , everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :o

No one said they weren't

[zell12]

Argh, mabey this should close or something. Wow, new PWA people. Good job, I love you all, do a good job and make us proud. Done, overwith, shazam.

[protagonist]

Originally posted by bo0ey
Congrats MG! I knew you would make it as soon as you told me
But the other guy was a surprise

A pleasant surprise.

[Blitz_Hunter]

Originally posted by Darlene159
No one said they weren't

um , did I ever say they weren't? No , I was merely stating a question..

[Gambet]

Originally posted by konidias


That's kind of broad. You're arguement would lead one to believe that ANYONE should be hired for PWA because nobody knows how they'd do with the job, so we should give everyone a chance.

It's like, my friend that has never played Graal in his life should deserve a chance, because he might be incredibly good at the job. If life were that easy, we'd all have high paying jobs doing things we're good at. It's not that easy, and I don't see how you can sit here and complain about Kaimetsu's opinion. When it's just an opinion, and he has every right to make it.

You're only getting defensive because it's a semi-personal issue for you.

Thats not what was meant see everyone had a chance to apply, and these two made it, so its not a matter of "lets pick someone off the streets for the job", they applied and passed all 3 portions of the application and did better then everyone else, so as far as i know, you all should stop blaming protagonist and MoonGod and you should start complaining to spark although he will probably ignore your arrogant comments, its sparks team and i msure he knows what he is doing, protagonist and moongod dont even have global powers yet and alrdy they are being picked on, i want them to do a great job, i have 100% faith on them, whether they do bad or good its better to have faith and support them then to diss them, dont you think this might lower there self-esteem and make them do there jobs poorly? knowing that there fellow global members are back-talking them?, Chris didnt make it, too bad, get over it, many others didnt make it and you dont see them complaining as much as chris is. Chris you didnt make it, get over it, and you globals should stop nagging on these 2 new members for so far they have done nothing wrong and accusations should not be made until they have actually started working.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Darlene159
About it being personal for me? It isnt at all, I dont know who Kai and Tseng was refering to, but it doesn't matter, I would expect Global staff to act more professional than that.

It's not so much a personal thing, Moon Goddess, against either of the two - it's just that most new PWA hirees do not have a good track record in my book, so it's only natural that I can have my doubts. And, if you think about it, you can doubt something by the exact same reasoning you can have faith in something.

Again, that's not to say I hope the new PWA members do well - I dislike being misinterpreted. I only wish the best for graal, you know.

[Gambet]

Well you gotta remember, everyone is allowed to apply, so not everyone may be in your good side, some may even be someone you never met, but it doesnt mean they are bad people.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

Originally posted by protagonist


Your knowledge is far from the truth.

1)I've never been banned on ANY playerworlds on any account that I've ever owned.

2)The forum ban was over a misunderstanding on my part, and the issue was resolved.

3)I was never temporarily globally banned. My first account works just fine and was never deleted.

I think that you are mistaking me for Brett.

Oh ok. lol. Sorry.
It must have been Brett that Devil.

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Blitz_Hunter


um , did I ever say they weren't? No , I was merely stating a question..

Ok, sorry...there was no question mark in your post, so I took it as a statement

Tseng, I understand what you are saying, but I dont think it is necessary to make remarks like the betting post...maybe you thought it was funny, but making bets to see who will fail to make someone say I told you so first, is just not right, that's all I was saying

[Lance]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Tseng, I understand what you are saying, but I dont think it is necessary to make remarks like the betting post...maybe you thought it was funny, but making bets to see who will fail to make someone say I told you so first, is just not right, that's all I was saying

Wasn't a bet so much as a challenge. Besides, it's rather moot anyway - If you believe that they'll do well, then you've got no reason to worry about such a challenge even existing.

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Lance


Wasn't a bet so much as a challenge. Besides, it's rather moot anyway - If you believe that they'll do well, then you've got no reason to worry about such a challenge even existing.

lol, you totally missed my point as usual, but whatever, I have wasted enough space and time on this, I'm done

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by --Chris--
I'm actually on AIM alot ;x Try again later.

Chris in an honest effort to get to know you (mainly because I don't know you at all) and you me , give me your Aim SN so we can at least talk sometime. I would rather get to know you this way and not by rumors and post on these Forums. I don't have to like someone to respect them or value their opinion (this doesn't apply to you Chris) Kaimetsu is a good example of that , I am not very fond of him and pretty much everyone knows that but I do have respect for him and many times value his opinion on things. Just because I may not agree with someone doesn't mean I don't think about what they said or try to look at it from their view. We all can be a horses rear end at times and hardheaded if we strongly believe we are right but at least have the wisdom to know just how far you need to carry it before the point of it is lost among the rights and wrongs of the issue.


To SkyBlazer
Don't worry about us being "picked on" if we haven't developed a thick skin from this Game yet then we don't deserve to be PWA anyway. Think about it being a PW Manager you get it all, praise and blame, happy players, mad players and you whether it is true or not are the blame for it all. You will never survive on Graal in Management if you are thin skinned. I just take it in stride, the good and the bad. I will just go about my business in what I was hired to do despite what is said here. Getting mad on here and lashing out at people isn't going to help anything, have I done this? Sure I have on these Forums and there are very few that haven’t, point is nothing was accomplished by it by me or the other person or persons involved so I doubt you will ever see me do it again. Am I passionate about rules to the point of being "prickish"? Yep that I am and most who know me know this about me.