An idea that may drop the number of PKers FOREVER!

Medabee5111 · #1 02-14-2004, 10:10 PM

i got an idea to KILL the number of PKers out there, make the game have things where you HAVE to coopperate, i.e. a HH (or dungeon (like TLOZ)) that has things that require 2 people, and not just one thing, couse then you could leave your partner to die, make the whole damn thing all the way to the end require 2 people, or 3, or 4, or 10! make multiable of these HH/Dungeons that all require diffrent ammounts of people! i bet you 10 plat you would find Pkers and nubs going trough together! it has been done in other MMORPGs (don't ask for names, i forgot

) and it works very well, and hell, even The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords would be a run or PK fest if it wasn't for 2 things, 1 you NEED ALL of your partners right untill the very end, where you STILL need them in order to exit the level, that keeps down the PKing, and makes people respect eachother, it'll work i have no doubt about it

Well what do you all think?

Monkeyboy_McGee · #2 02-15-2004, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Medabee5111
i got an idea to KILL the number of PKers out there, make the game have things where you HAVE to coopperate, i.e. a HH (or dungeon (like TLOZ)) that has things that require 2 people, and not just one thing, couse then you could leave your partner to die, make the whole damn thing all the way to the end require 2 people, or 3, or 4, or 10! make multiable of these HH/Dungeons that all require diffrent ammounts of people! i bet you 10 plat you would find Pkers and nubs going trough together! it has been done in other MMORPGs (don't ask for names, i forgot ) and it works very well, and hell, even The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords would be a run or PK fest if it wasn't for 2 things, 1 you NEED ALL of your partners right untill the very end, where you STILL need them in order to exit the level, that keeps down the PKing, and makes people respect eachother, it'll work i have no doubt about it

Well what do you all think?

Ummm.....wth?

Borgie · #3 02-15-2004, 12:17 AM

the idea is just wonderfull! i like it... but it would not decrase the number of pkers at all...

Qwert616 · #4 02-15-2004, 12:21 AM

While it's not exactly a bad idea, it wouldn't stop pkers at all.

PKers do have friends, you know.

Medabee5111 · #5 02-15-2004, 02:12 AM

i know Pkers have friends, but do thay have 10 friends?

and i think that maby there should be one single super one that requires 20 people to do, making a super large party go trough and interact, there would also be traps, not like the traps lords drop, but more like in this example:

3 people enter one of these HH/Dungeon things, thay find 3 doors, a note on a table by these doors says "3 paths are laid before ye, one for each of ye three, 2 leads ye to nothing, the other leads ye to death..."
one of each goes trough a door and the 2 find nothing "like it says" and 1 finds a room full of enemys, the guy with the enemys has to kill all the enemys or it's all over, if he suceeds then yay the doors opens leading forward, if he dies, him and his companions locked in the other 2 rooms get warped out with him, not losing a thing of course, that would make for intresting play, and the whole thing could have randomness to it, like the door leading to enemys isn't always the same door

Qwert616 · #6 02-15-2004, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by Medabee5111
i know Pkers have friends, but do thay have 10 friends?

Yes.
On average, they probably have the same number of friends as a non-pk player.

Anyway, now it is getting to the point where it is just annoying. It sounds more like a Kingdom Quest or something.

Medabee5111 · #7 02-15-2004, 02:36 AM

I still think it would be a good idea, it would atleast make people a little nicer to other people while doing it, couse you can always just leave them behind if thay are evil and mean, and thay can't PK you couse then thay can't finish the place, kinda a PKers hell isn't it? ooooo maby we could FORCE PKers to go trough it! that would teach em a lesson XD

Qwert616 · #8 02-15-2004, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by Medabee5111
I still think it would be a good idea, it would atleast make people a little nicer to other people while doing it, couse you can always just leave them behind if thay are evil and mean, and thay can't PK you couse then thay can't finish the place, kinda a PKers hell isn't it? ooooo maby we could FORCE PKers to go trough it! that would teach em a lesson XD

No. It would result in people hiring other people to help them complete the quest. It would just become a nuisance.

Medabee5111 · #9 02-15-2004, 05:53 AM

hmm, your probabley right, damn, i was soo close to getting a good idea to help fix the problum

aw well, i was close so now i have a lead towards finding something useable to help the PKing problum, but actually getting rid of the "half exp when in Pmode" would fix the problum in a very cruel way for the PKers, but thats off topic

but this can still be considered something nice to add anyways

Thak2 · #10 02-15-2004, 06:56 AM

I think that everyone should always be in bmode, but - like with ap in classic graal -, anyone who pks gets punishment.

Say, pking in town could risk being tossed in a dungeon, or losing charisma/piety. I don't know exactly. Just some sortof punishment for crazy pkers.

haunter · #11 02-15-2004, 07:09 AM

Yeah, i dont like being in Bmode because there's always some jerk who will come along and kill you when you're reading a PM or something...

axman36 · #12 02-15-2004, 09:31 AM

why do you want to get rid of pkers, go on Pm mode, geeze

Borgie · #13 02-15-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Medabee5111
"half exp when in Pmode" would fix the problum in a very cruel way for the PKers, but thats off topic

this would solve all the problems... those who want to pk could pk and those who want to play wont be harrassed by pkers any longer

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Originally posted by Thak2
I think that everyone should always be in bmode, but - like with ap in classic graal -, anyone who pks gets punishment.

that would be good for pkers... they could wait bomb to kill everyone who comes from start island...

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Originally posted by axman36
why do you want to get rid of pkers, go on Pm mode, geeze

Because then you get half XP and at about lvl 30 every single point of experience is valueable!

axman36 · #14 02-15-2004, 05:55 PM

well, thats what they call self defense, try to hunt in a pker free place, like the HH, I never see pkers there

DragonX · #15 02-15-2004, 06:04 PM

In peaceful mode you get 75% of the EXP you should. In battle you get 100%. You don't get half off, just 25%. Also, with this quest thing, after PKers have done it, they'd still PK anyway so it wouldn't do much but make the PKer stronger after he has finished it. Also if people don't want to go on the quest with the PKer, he will just PK in a mad rage...

Satrek2000 · #16 02-16-2004, 07:06 AM

The idea of monsters only killable in a party, maybe even by attacking multiple spots at once, has been arround for a while. As was said before, it won't do anything about pkers.

Maybe add an ap-like system from classic, and in addition, give luck-1 for each ap someone has below 100. As luck affects almost everything, it would be a nice way to encourage people not to kill others pointlessly.

Nidonemo · #17 02-16-2004, 01:17 PM

Light and Shadow,

Peace and War,

Love and Hate,

There is a balance, as much as I want a utopia, one will always disagree. It is the balance of life. You cannot eliminate PKers. :o

Monkeyboy_McGee · #18 02-16-2004, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Thak2
I think that everyone should always be in bmode, but - like with ap in classic graal -, anyone who pks gets punishment.

Say, pking in town could risk being tossed in a dungeon, or losing charisma/piety. I don't know exactly. Just some sortof punishment for crazy pkers.

I hear that PKing on CF results in a permanent luck-1....well, we stole every single other thing from CF, SO WHY DID WE LEAVE THIS OUT!?"?!"?!£$?!?$!?$@!"@!@@@@!@!@!!!!?"111!1!!!?! 12"22551!!1!!!?

Satrek2000 · #19 02-16-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
I hear that PKing on CF results in a permanent luck-1....well, we stole every single other thing from CF, SO WHY DID WE LEAVE THIS OUT!?"?!"?!£$?!?$!?$@!"@!@@@@!@!@!!!!?"111!1!!!?! 12"22551!!1!!!?

Probably for the same reason some things that work fine there don't work here, or have been nerfed so they put the balance at risk...

axman36 · #20 02-17-2004, 04:22 AM

well I have an idea to end the crazy spar problem, get rid of the 25% off of Peaceful mode

Monkeyboy_McGee · #21 02-17-2004, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by axman36
well I have an idea to end the crazy spar problem, get rid of the 25% off of Peaceful mode

I have a better one...we convince everyone and stefan to boycott GK, and then we help stefan to make a new game. and when i say new i mean new, not just some opensource game immitation =x

Wait, no, i don't....ignore what i said...keep playing GK please... *trots off to work on his friend's server*