! - !Attention playerworld Managers! - !

[mhermher]

Greetings,

I am offering my FREE services to help out ALL playerworlds that need any graphics.

Do not bother me about making you a whole tileset, note that this is no personal gain, i am doing this of own will.

Me, MarkB and Stefan had a little chat on debug today, and Stefan gave me this idea.

I am doing this because i want to, nobody forced me or anything.

Please do not turn this into a flame war or anything, thanks.

If you would like my assistance, contact me via:

AIM: TyrialAdiarde
MSN: [email protected]
ICQ: 170033120
E-Mail:[email protected]
You can contact me via Graal. I am usually on 10-15 hours a day on "Adiarde"


Sinerly,
Mher Avetian aka. Tyrial.

[wonderboysp2p]

i need sprites for a GIANTDONKEYMONSTERTHATEATSPEOPLEANDSPRITESFORPEOPL EBEINGEATENANDATILESETOMGPLEZ?>


i mean... nice of you to dos this ^_^

donkey sprites

[mhermher]

Originally posted by wonderboysp2p
i need sprites for a GIANTDONKEYMONSTERTHATEATSPEOPLEANDSPRITESFORPEOPL EBEINGEATENANDATILESETOMGPLEZ?>


i mean... nice of you to dos this ^_^

donkey sprites

Hehe, thanks..

Anyways, try to keep this thread alive please.

[Scott]

You'd be doing more work then the GGT Admin. Lawl.

[--Chris--]

Something seems fishy about this while looking at that situation with you and Oasis' graphics.

Edit: In response to Scott's post - The GGT Admin nor the GGT is obligated to make graphics nor ganis for PWs but we're supposed to assist Graal 2001, Graal Kingdoms and Graal: The Adventure. Furthermore; you can't measure and compare "how much work someone has done" when their responsibilities differ. Zen and I moderate content and such for PWs, moderate graphics and gani forums (respectively), (ggt use to and should again soon) maintain global uploads, answer graphical questions and such. Learn to watch what you say.

[mhermher]

I made a shade tutorial for those who wishes to learn.

[Scott]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Something seems fishy about this while looking at that situation with you and Oasis' graphics.

Edit: In response to Scott's post - The GGT Admin nor the GGT is obligated to make graphics nor ganis for PWs but we're supposed to assist Graal 2001, Graal Kingdoms and Graal: The Adventure. Furthermore; you can't measure and compare "how much work someone has done" when their responsibilities differ. Zen and I moderate content and such for PWs, moderate graphics and gani forums (respectively), (ggt use to and should again soon) maintain global uploads, answer graphical questions and such. Learn to watch what you say.

Sup. So the need of Graphics on 2k1 was a big deal, howcome he wasn't hepling yo?
Edit: Also, please don't tell me do.

[osrs]

Why don't you be GGT then?

[Muha_builder]

nice tutorial tyrial

[mhermher]

Originally posted by osrs
Why don't you be GGT then?

Zen isn't hireing.

[WanDaMan]

You should be
He is amazing, I love the work he has done for Rudora, it's amazing!!.
Thank you, again !!

[--Chris--]

*shrug* How good your art is isn't the only criteria to be met in being GGT. Actually it's one of the least things that matter once your work can meet a certain level of quality. It isn't neccessary for Zen to hire more people although if he were to hire one more I believe he already has a suitable person in mind.

Edit: Nice shading tutorial Tyrial, my method is similar.

[osrs]

Originally posted by --Chris--
I believe he already has a suitable person in mind.

Mind me in ask if the person is Scott?

[zell12]

Originally posted by osrs


Mind me in ask if the person is Scott?

Anyway, I think this is some bs way for him to get buddy-buddy with stefan. Then ask him for a staff job globally so he can feel cool.

[mhermher]

Originally posted by zell12


Anyway, I think this is some bs way for him to get buddy-buddy with stefan. Then ask him for a staff job globally so he can feel cool.

Listen bud..

I am allready good enough buddy with stefan.. I don't ask him for a global job, i asked Zen and he isn't hireing.. btw it's not a big deal as GGT might be removed.


Please, excalibur.. when you try to make me look like a fool, read it over and over, because the only one who is a fool is you.

[Scott]

Originally posted by --Chris--
*shrug* How good your art is isn't the only criteria to be met in being GGT. Actually it's one of the least things that matter once your work can meet a certain level of quality. It isn't neccessary for Zen to hire more people although if he were to hire one more I believe he already has a suitable person in mind.

Edit: Nice shading tutorial Tyrial, my method is similar.

How you can even say that being apart of the GGT doesn't require high skill makes me yell "WTF" You don't see hockey players in the NHL that can't play hockey. (Well, there are people who suck, but you know what I mean.)
Funny how you have a "shading style" when on G2k1 Shadow asked you do something and you said "I don't do graphics." Nice work, dude. I usually get along with you but now you piss me off. >;[
Osrs: I would never work under Zen, or any global position on Graal. This game will go nowhere, but I'm addicted to the forums and want to help out G2k1 in my spare time.

[syltburk]

I should be global Llama =)

[WanDaMan]

I'm sorry, I should of mensioned this in my previous post, what is the point in GGT? Can we ask them to pixelate stuff for us or is it only for stefan?

Chris I need your AIM, I'd like to see your method of Shading :-), allthough I like Tyrials

[mhermher]

Hi all.

Scott>Chris.


Else: Thanks for comments.

End

[osrs]

Originally posted by Scott
Osrs: I would never work under Zen, or any global position on Graal. This game will go nowhere, but I'm addicted to the forums and want to help out G2k1 in my spare time.

Indeed, this game will go nowhere.
Look at your signature, you're one of the best pixel artists on Graal and don't have a chance to be GGT, well, that's not my problem too.

[Scott]

I don't really care for my shading, as I have no defined style. I'm trying to do simple and colorful stuff. ;?

[WanDaMan]

I like your sig, if you made it?

[Muha_builder]

I believe the last 2 steps in tyrials tutorial discribe dithershading (dithering) and scotts sig rox indeed and yes he made it hisself

[WanDaMan]

I like it, not many colours used!
Looks nice

[LordZen]

Of course skill is a factor, but when you look at the actual responsibilities which are given to us, then you must realize other qualities are important, too.

Chris does ganis, and he does them well. On top of that he has a good attitude and takes what he does seriously.

Scott, your a great artist, nobody is contesting that, but I decided against considering you in the end based on negativity I've seen in the forums. Attitude has nothing to do with graphics, but it has everything to do with administration.

I know I should hire, and I plan on doing it soon, but its stupid to try when I am unable to access many of my fundamental powers do to technicalities.

You ask me why I never helped out 2k1? Who asked me? I was not even aware that there was any sort of need. The GGT is available as a resource for those who use it. My contact information is available. Assignments are received by requests from admin servers. I have not gotten any sort of request myself from any server other than GK in a long time.

[WanDaMan]

Graphics and gani's = different so why is he on your team:o
Sorry if you find this offencive chris, it's just a bit sad having you on the team when you don't pixelate:o

[Spark910]

Well I guess it could be Global Graphics or Gani Team.

[WanDaMan]

Why isn't there just a seperate them then?
I know many great gani makers...
Chris
DarkLux
Flea360
Neoreno (Kirrar) -RAWR, Sorry i'm childish..
Hrmm ?

[--Chris--]

"btw it's not a big deal as GGT might be removed." - Tyrial

Don't be silly, there are actually future plans for the GGT. If I recall correctly Unixmad mentioned something about global graphic uploads and such going back into effect. Secondly, I do way too much for it to go down.

"How you can even say that being apart of the GGT doesn't require high skill makes me yell "WTF" You don't see hockey players in the NHL that can't play hockey. (Well, there are people who suck, but you know what I mean.)" - Scott

Looks like you missed the "once you can reach a certain level of quality." Like Zen also said, my specialise in ganis/animations. I do gfx for 2k1, kingdoms etc because _I_ want to and the respective rights were given to me by the administrators, it's not really something I was assigned but more of a benefit for them <3

"Funny how you have a "shading style" when on G2k1 Shadow asked you do something and you said "I don't do graphics." "

I didn't say that, what I said was similar to my statement above this one. Did I also mention he wanted an extremely large image (a house with a telescope or something) and I do my work pixel by pixel with ms paint and at the same time I had greater priorities in mind? Almost forgot, he's quite rude.

"what is the point in GGT?" - WanDaMan

Guild charter:
"...Global GFX Team...

Responsibilities:
*Assists administration servers (classic, 2k1, 2k2)
*Moderates graphical content on Playerworlds
*Assists with graphic problems/questions the population may present to us"

*Nudges Zen*

Hiring isn't really neccessary, I've done alot more I just haven't put it in the "Resolved Issues" thread in the GGT forum yet. Trying to get more details such as file-names and settling a few things first :x That one guy you told me about on aim though seems like a good choice if anyone else is to be added to the team, no questions asked

To Excal: I wouldn't doubt it <3

Edit:

"Why isn't there just a seperate them then?
I know many great gani makers...
Chris
DarkLux
Flea360
Neoreno (Kirrar) -RAWR, Sorry i'm childish..
Hrmm ?" - WanDaMan

A seperate team is uncalled for, what would they even do? Moderate copyright ganis (lol =p) In any case...I'd disagree with your choices. I believe it would be more of Karsh, myself and maybe neoreno if any.

Hmm...just read some guy saying I don't pixel..umm...what?? Stop making assumptions, I can show you alot of things I've made for Graal. Furthermore I'm a valuable asset to the team for reasons mentioned by Zen and I'm talented in both areas (gfx and ganis.)

[DustyPorViva]

Being on the GGT sounds like a lot of fun.

[Deek2]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Don't be silly, there are actually future plans for the GGT. If I recall correctly Unixmad mentioned something about global graphic uploads and such going back into effect. Secondly, I do way too much for it to go down.

I don't see the point, right now the GGT is pretty much useless.

*Assists administration servers (classic, 2k1, 2k2)

Which already have their own graphics teams, might I remark. I still don't see your point.

*Moderates graphical content on Playerworlds

Eh, looks like a Playerworld Admin's job to me. Even if you could do that, it'd still be handed over to the playerworld inspectors, so there really isn't any point.

*Assists with graphic problems/questions the population may present to us"

Ahahahahah. They can just go on any server and ask a FAQ those questions and most likely get them answered. If they can't, then they can ask the graphics team. I don't see the point in asking you nor any of the other team members when all of them are practically gone and the only one that's "active" only does ganis.

Hiring isn't really neccessary,

Yes, it sure isn't, if you want to prove my point about the team being inactive.

just read some guy saying I don't pixel..umm...what?? Stop making assumptions,

That's fine, except that's not your priority on the GGT.

I can show you alot of things I've made for Graal. Furthermore I'm a valuable asset to the team for reasons mentioned by Zen and I'm talented in both areas (gfx and ganis.)

Hmmm, I'd like to see these "graphics" you're speaking of.

[--Chris--]

"I don't see the point, right now the GGT is pretty much useless." - Deek

If you had access to the GGT forums you'd see how much is done. Dude, the PWA is almost made inferior in the section of moderating graphical content.

"Which already have their own graphics teams, might I remark. I still don't see your point." - Deek

Which I'm a part of.

"Eh, looks like a Playerworld Admin's job to me. Even if you could do that, it'd still be handed over to the playerworld inspectors, so there really isn't any point." - Deek

Sorry to burst your bubble but most playerworld managers/admins are incompetent of following these rules thus some of the reasons GGT, GST and PWA exist. Now why would it be handed over to the PWA/playerworld inspectors? I sometimes have to rely on people like Angel when I don't get co-operation from the player-world's staff but so do the PWA.

"Ahahahahah. They can just go on any server and ask a FAQ those questions and most likely get them answered. If they can't, then they can ask the graphics team. I don't see the point in asking you nor any of the other team members when all of them are practically gone and the only one that's "active" only does ganis. " - Deek

Aren't you aware your point is invalid because it works the same way for me? Why ask the FAQ or graphics team when I'm around?
I do graphics also Doosh but more on my own terms. Read Doosh (heh, that's a nice nickname for ya <3)

The team isn't inactive, I'm on tag and perform my duties quite efficiently daily and I'm positive I'm getting more work done individually than many have combined in the same time-span.

"just read some guy saying I don't pixel..umm...what?? Stop making assumptions,
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That's fine, except that's not your priority on the GGT. " - Deek

Sure it isn't but I do graphics for the respective servers the GGT is supposed to assist anyway. "Assist" also implies they don't do everything thrown at them, the only thing I've turned down is that big house/telescope thing Haunter/Shadowless asked me for which is exceptionally understandable. Hey Zen *prods* change my rank to "multi"? (lmao...)

"Hmmm, I'd like to see these "graphics" you're speaking of." - Deek

Sure:

Note that some of these have been improved since.

Edit: What is this? Attack of the GGT by ignorant, possibly envious gfx artist?

[Nappa]

Not only is Chris a hot sexy man beast, he is a good gfx artist and gani maker. He's also organized and crap.


He's good for the job, if not the best. In my opinion, he'd be a better admin then Zen, but its doubtful Zen will ever quit.

Stop ragging on Chris just because your not as sexy as him.

[Deek2]

Originally posted by --Chris--

Edit: What is this? Attack of the GGT by ignorant, possibly envious gfx artist?

I'm not envious, I don't see what's soo great about those graphics that you just showed. Maybe it's because you picked really poor choices or something, I don't know.

[--Chris--]

I was more-so refering to my position =p Some of the things posted have been touched up but not on this pc (example the FAQ hat, heh that was one of my first X_x)

[LordZen]

Once again, our services are offered as a resource. We are there if we are needed. It is recognized that the admin servers already have graphic teams, if help is needed to pick up the slack than that is what we are here for.

Its also blatently obvious that myself and Chris are not the only people who know anything about graphics lol, but if somebody comes to us for answer than we are there to offer our help. I browse the graphic forums frequently and I would expect other members of the team to try and do so too.

There are usage rights questions also that I must make final decisions on that many others probably couldnt say for sure one way or the other.

Also what other members are you talking about who are inactive? lol When is the last time you looked at the roster I wonder. I was hesitant to remove Garel because I needed to talk to Stefan about him. The others have been removed for some time.

Our priority is moderating PWs for gfx content. This is something the PWA simply shouldnt have to do and really cant do given all their other responsibilities and limited resources.

[mhermher]

I have finished my grass tutorial!

[mhermher]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Ugly Graphics:

Hey, thanks for stealing my old forest wand and claiming it yours.

The rest isn't that good.. don't think to high of them.. i think that Wan's helmet in his sig/avatar is alot better in shade, outline and overall graphics than "your" so called gfx.

[Muha_builder]

forest shield rox gk's sox it really like it and nice grass tutorial and im sure chris is on the ggt team for a reason and now most of you guys are just acting jalous like in my eyes and i use and alot.

[WanDaMan]

Originally posted by mhermher



Hey, thanks for stealing my old forest wand and claiming it yours.

The rest isn't that good.. don't think to high of them.. i think that Wan's helmet in his sig/avatar is alot better in shade, outline and overall graphics than "your" so called gfx.

Hey thanks !
Lol :P
O-sorry I didn't mention this in my other post, Well I don't know Karsh so... Well you know people who don't post here are good?
Only because they don't post here dosn't mean they have a talent, same happend with bloo untill he made archaic basically...
The forest shield on graal is edited, chris probably did the outline whilst some 1 coloured the middle in (not that yours isn't allready)!