Thunder Sword

[Python523]

Should it be renamed to Plasma Sword and have the electric attack type changed to poison?

[D1ce2]

No just make another sword with them attacks:o

[--Chris--]

No but the animation should be the same as any other flaming sword.

Consider this Jagen...someone blessing that to dianceht or so making it blind+poison then using holy possession with another God for yet a third status problem (possibly Aengus for slow/confuse or Balor for Fear >_>) I don't think any weapon should come with a status like attacktype unless there's an unlimited stock and it's unprepare-able. Hell, I'd prefer if they didn't at all but knowing how the majority of the players are they'd unthoughtfully say "omg lawl yes that would rox."

[D1ce2]

Double post or something there mate(y)!.
Jagen a bit of advice on what you like better might help, or your thoughts on it aswell.

[UNPTWOPWINNER]

Well the Thunder Sword is basicly the Lightning Sabre with a different graphic...I feel sorry for whoever traded for Lightning Sabre recently...since it's so ugly :o

[Valder]

The Ice sword should be renamed to Blizzard because calling it the Ice Flaming Sword sounds stupid...

[Satrek2000]

I think electricity as attack is okay, I just don't like the gfx... I think it should be yellow, and have at least 2 different sparks running over it... at different speed, maybe (i.e. one frame for 10 hundredths, one for 20...)

As for attacktypes, I think there's an unbalance regarding the used attacktypes/resistances - anyone ever used acid? Vitriol will, ans the effects it has on CF would be devastating here, as there are no craftable bracers and cancellation has been removed. There's prescious few ghosthit, and the same goes for holy word... I'd love a Molten Blade, dealing acid damage, and I believe it'd add diversity, if there are enough means to defend yourself. But as Chris said, attacktypes can become a problem. What a boout this, a weapon with more than 3 attacktypes can't be blessed - i.e. physical, some attacktype hardwired into it, and a blessing - weapons with more can neither be blessed nor prepped, and holy posession doesn't apply with them. This would limit it a bit, and adding some runes with a little resistance would add the possibility to defend better... I believe this can work - if done properly - meet the bottleneck...

[Majin_Mush]

The name and the stats are fine:o .
Only the animation is terrible.
Please change it!

[protagonist]

Isn't it just a recolor?

[MasterNuke]

Sword of Frost or Frost sword instead of Ice Flaming sword

And instead of Thunder Sword... how about Energy Sword and take out the physical attacktype... or you can make it poison and change the name to Venom Sword... or name it Vine Sword and give it Slow and Poison... or ... hmm... out of ideas

[Satrek2000]

Originally posted by protagonist
Isn't it just a recolor?

The ice one is, I can't remember ever seeing the lightning one though... then again, I've never seen green lightning...

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Amagad, noway, i love the thunder sword. I chose it first over the flaming ice sword (even though i got the FIS afterwards anyway o_o) because A)It looks nicer* and B)Everyone uses the FIDs and has cold resist and stuff.

*While it does look nicer and more original than the other flaming swords, i agree with satrek in that it should be made yellow. When i saw it i was like "Wtfs, i've never seen green electricity before..."


The Thunder Sword shouldn't be changed; how many weapons do you know that have lightning on them? There is only one other lightning eventweaponthat i know of, and not many people use leuc-blessed weapons.

Instead, you should change the graphics of the ice sword to be transparent and possibly a different colour, like white or very light gray, and make it do GHOSTHIT damage! O_O

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
and make it do GHOSTHIT damage! O_O

Wasn't there something about ghosthit? No longer used? Or is it just that it was removed from the zormite blade?

[D1ce2]

I made 4k and 1 ea and 1 IWD for selling 2 swords and a crap helmet. Nice

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


Wasn't there something about ghosthit? No longer used? Or is it just that it was removed from the zormite blade?

No idea. If it was removed, then that -sucks-. Re-add it, or keep the blade graphics the same and make it do acid damage instead. Not poison. I'd like -something- at least different from cold and fire damage =/
If this isn't possible, then stick with lightning. Lightning is nice

[Majin_Mush]

I still think the animation is terrible.
The color is too.
Just fix this man.
The Animation is just too crappy, the ani is only at the buttom make it at the top to like Flaming Ice Sword, only make the animation a lil bigger =).

[D1ce2]

The gfx make it look like it's radioactive

[--Chris--]

Acid splash damage has the same affect has cancellation (which was removed from GK) but worse there-fore I doubt it will last for long when someone can actually get the spell that takes advantage of it from Balor (vitrol or something.)

Edit: Also, I believe "falchion of poisoning" and such can not be blessed for a reason (because of how advantageous and unbalanced things would get) so it would be advised you don't go against the mudlibs policies >_>

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Why on earth does everything get removed from GK. o_o

And yeah like i've said already, if nothing can be done about the flaming ice sword, then just change the colour of it to yellow or white+transparent and add a few more frames to the animation and i will love it, since i already like it a lot :grin:

[graaliholic]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Acid splash damage has the same affect has cancellation (which was removed from GK) but worse there-fore I doubt it will last for long when someone can actually get the spell that takes advantage of it from Balor (vitrol or something.)
Edit: Also, I believe "falchion of poisoning" and such can not be blessed for a reason (because of how advantageous and unbalanced things would get) so it would be advised you don't go against the mudlibs policies >_>

Actually, any acid damage is is not the same as cancellation. Think of it like any other status effect. Every time the attacktype works against you, something gets -1. If you wear bracers, the bracers will always take the acid damage. Also the falchion of poisoning can't be blessed because it is already considered to be. "falchion" is the name and "of poisoning" is the title, just like "of govannon" or "of bile" are other titles. Since you can't get every blessing on one weapon (because the limit is one title), you can't bless the falchion of poisoning (unless you go remove the title from the magic pond)

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
Why on earth does everything get removed from GK. o_o

Because whenever someone can do something that other people don't like, it seemingly needs to be removed. If the majority rose up against a particular god, for example, it would probably be removed. People cry about things they don't like, and surprisingly, stefan actually listens to the whining. :o

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by graaliholic

Because whenever someone can do something that other people don't like, it seemingly needs to be removed. If the majority rose up against a particular god, for example, it would probably be removed. People cry about things they don't like, and surprisingly, stefan actually listens to the whining. :o

Its a pity there aren't many people that speak out against the multitudes of idiots on GK

[Qwert616]

Originally posted by graaliholic
Because whenever someone can do something that other people don't like, it seemingly needs to be removed. If the majority rose up against a particular god, for example, it would probably be removed. People cry about things they don't like, and surprisingly, stefan actually listens to the whining. :o

Removing or "nerfing" certain aspects of the game is a part of every MMORPG. It's needed, in most cases.

[KyJe27]

Removing or "nerfing" certain aspects of the game is a part of every MMORPG. It's needed, in most cases.

Agreed. Things are updated with patches which can also remove old faulty parts of the program. It only helps out in the end. Thats why graal in general is updated every 4-6 months.... To stop hackers "Way unfair overlooked items" from takeing advantage of the code "Game and everybody in it".

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Qwert616


Removing or "nerfing" certain aspects of the game is a part of every MMORPG. It's needed, in most cases.

So, ok you're saying the situation below is needed?

The game is unfair, because people are making alchemy items such as mithril and selling them and stuff to make the economy completely screwed up.
The big cheeses decide that the best way to solve this problem is not to lower the price of the items, but to remove the ability to make them. The theory is that this will make the game fair. The reality is that it tilts the scales even further towards the vertical; while people had good items before, and there was a slim chance that everyone else could one day make them too, now some people have good items and there is no chance that anybody will be able to make any ever again.

Wowzahs, really needed that, didn't we

[MarkB]

Think of this:

I have lightning sabre I traded a lot for. These new swords have Elec damage. My Lightning sabre is worth nothing.

[skyler87]

Originally posted by MarkB
Think of this:

I have lightning sabre I traded a lot for. These new swords have Elec damage. My Lightning sabre is worth nothing.

And the same goes for whoever has the ice swords, which is why I sort of think that releasing these new event swords was a mistake.

[MarkB]

Originally posted by skyler87

And the same goes for whoever has the ice swords, which is why I sort of think that releasing these new event swords was a mistake.

Agreed. I didnt choose the stats of them...

[D1ce2]

I think Mark is right..Its just a cheap version of the Lightning sabre...

[GoZelda]

Indeed...

[Satrek2000]

Originally posted by Qwert616
Removing or "nerfing" certain aspects of the game is a part of every MMORPG. It's needed, in most cases.

The point is that these aspects are mainly unbalanced because other aspects, which would counter them, aren't up.
The way I understand acid damage from CF, it reduces your armour enchantments, starting with bracers. There are no bracers craftable on GK, so there's an unbalance. Mage leather bracers craftable, for, say, 20 skin and 10 cloth, to absorb at least a few hits. Next, I believe chancellation had something to do with restoring acidated items, and it was removed (correct me if I'm wrong here).

The point is that the mudlib isn't unbalanced - it's just that some parts are better taken care of than others.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by Satrek2000

(correct me if I'm wrong here).

It did what the pont does now =x

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by MarkB
Think of this:

I have lightning sabre I traded a lot for. These new swords have Elec damage. My Lightning sabre is worth nothing.

Most players ( @ them) still believe that the lightning sabre is worth way more, just because there's fewer of them. Like the blood sabre and the Diamond force.:o

[Qwert616]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee


So, ok you're saying the situation below is needed?

The game is unfair, because people are making alchemy items such as mithril and selling them and stuff to make the economy completely screwed up.
The big cheeses decide that the best way to solve this problem is not to lower the price of the items, but to remove the ability to make them. The theory is that this will make the game fair. The reality is that it tilts the scales even further towards the vertical; while people had good items before, and there was a slim chance that everyone else could one day make them too, now some people have good items and there is no chance that anybody will be able to make any ever again.

Wowzahs, really needed that, didn't we

No, I don't think that is needed. It was obviously handled in a very poor manner. The alchemy items should either be "nerfed" or removed completely.

[Satrek2000]

Originally posted by Qwert616
No, I don't think that is needed. It was obviously handled in a very poor manner. The alchemy items should either be "nerfed" or removed completely.

Mare some basic gaunlets and gloves craftable, and add some low-improvement recipes for the. Don't add items as strong as the random alchemy items, but close the gap - no bracers and gloves at all to event/random alchemy bracers and gloves.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee



Most players ( @ them) still believe that the lightning sabre is worth way more, just because there's fewer of them. Like the blood sabre and the Diamond force.:o

Lightning Sabre is better, one more damage omg

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by GoZelda

Lightning Sabre is better, one more damage omg

amadagzies nat wun mur adamg!1!!!1!! tatht mens my katana wicksh is 7 dmg is uselus

[Majin_Mush]

O.o
Anyway dont change the name..
Change the color and animation =)

[Muha_builder]

i like the colour but not the ani

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Muha_builder
i like the colour but not the ani

The horizontal and vertical sprites of the thunder sabre are -gold-, i tell you!
It's just the diagonal ones suck the crappo lemon

[gravator]

If the swords are ment to be "cool" give then nice names many folks are already familiar with.


Icebrand

Thunderbrand

change the flame sword to Firebrand

make the flame sword Flameburg?

Just my personal ideas since this is now a Online RPG more that anything.