Samurai vs Nighthawks

LoveableNalle · #1 10-16-2003, 10:04 PM

Samurai vs Nighthawks
I will be first to admit that I made a big mistake in putting Nighthawks ranks into my guild board. But no matter what I did it just don't work. Since day I did that I have been hounded by Nighthawks Queen and her now King about rights. The more rights I gave the more they wanted. One of my goals was to rid Samurai of the name scammer kingdom, so far I think ive done that. But not without having to watch who is let in Nighthawks, even after I told Dayaa not to. I had to work one weekend and gave out more rights in my absence and the rights were abused. Then I got scolded for taking rights back. I am the Empress something that I did not ask for but took and have tried to the best of my ability to do good job.
Dayaa has made it impossible to keep Nighthawks on the board. And I want it known I did not remove the men from samurai her New king did, all I did was take off the ranks thier names were still there. I have nothing against nighthawks but with Dayaa as Queen it has become too difficult to keep the ranks on the board.
I will be glad to reinstate any Nighthawk that wishes to rejoin NH as soon as they get a new Leader.
I wish Nighthawks the best of luck and hope they can find a strong emotionaly stable person to hold them together

Empress Nayoko Len

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Borgie · #2 10-16-2003, 10:19 PM

1. no one abused rights! The account TeddyBearHamster was NOT a KNOWN "criminal"... the problem was that no one was able to kick him again

2. nighthawks has a great leader and they are part of the game (they have an official island) and by removing them YOU abused your rights and should be replaced...

3. I did NOT remove anyone... im not even able to with no rights!

4. Dayaa never asked for more rights, i just wanted you to let her keep those that she had!

All in all: maybe its better to be an independend guild because we are save from empress' corruption
We just need to have the nighthawks castle door changed (it will only let samurai member enter)
And now you better stop talking bad about dayaa......

busyrobot · #3 10-16-2003, 10:32 PM

I hope the empire sorts this all out, I am not involved, but I will say this:

1) The NH were not part of samurai when they got their own island.
Lyndzey nor any other leader of samurai offered them space in the Samurai rank list.

I believe that makes the NH guests in Samurai, not partners, and if a hospitible solution cannot be found, it is not upon the Empire to meet the demands of the NH, but they should at least work with the Empire that is hosting them.

Lance · #4 10-16-2003, 10:41 PM

Subdivisions, while nice in theory, are impractical within our current system. I am opposed to their institution, and in fact just refused a request by a group to join Dustari. Subkingdoms simply do not work within kingdoms - there are too many problems.

baywatch1 · #5 10-16-2003, 10:49 PM

Also Lynzdey said that Nighthawks are good and will be a part of Samurai! She only dont made ranks for them! Bute she added all NHs to Samurai! She also thought NHs is a good guild and Dayaa helped a lot of ****s with makign NHs and helped them out when they started!

LoveableNalle · #6 10-16-2003, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Borgie
1. no one abused rights! The account TeddyBearHamster was NOT a KNOWN "criminal"... the problem was that no one was able to kick him again

2. nighthawks has a great leader and they are part of the game (they have an official island) and by removing them YOU abused your rights and should be replaced...

3. I did NOT remove anyone... im not even able to with no rights!

4. Dayaa never asked for more rights, i just wanted you to let her keep those that she had!

All in all: maybe its better to be an independend guild because we are save from empress' corruption
We just need to have the nighthawks castle door changed (it will only let samurai member enter)
And now you better stop talking bad about dayaa......

First of all, you did have rights before I removed them.

Second Teddyhampsters was known scammer but he not only one.
I told her that Timothy728 was never to be added to Samurai but she did it anyways also shadyvisions shall I go on?

Third, It is my right to say who is in my kingdom or not. Making that decison does not make me courpt. If it does I guess Every leader is courpt then hehe NOT

Forth, Did you read all the pms she sent me? NO so you cannot say she didnt ask for more rights. She even had you ask me for more rights for her or did you do that on your own?
Perhaps your opinion is a bit clouded since you have been having an affair with her for months while she was married to Vash?

Fifth, A great leader does not remove a King just to satisfy her lust and make room for her lover. You have to do whats right for your kingdom. A Great leader does not forsake her kingsmen for her pleasures. A Great leader dont quit her kingdom because no one answered hi back in toguilds. A Great leader keeps the morale of her kingsmen up and not send out toguilds how down she is all the time. A Great leader does not dump her husband because he cant be with her 24/7 because he has a real life and real homework to do. A Great leader would have a king who will defend her and her kingdom at all cost not say he was going to sit in his castle and drink beer while everyone else is fighting.

Ok now back to my kingdom I have work to do.
Empress Nayoko Len

baywatch1 · #7 10-17-2003, 09:44 PM

lol you really think tahst real life! a affair lover lol thats a game not a real love! maybe they havent seen each other in real life! You amke stupid desicions which noone likes i think! you shouldnt say it was wrong to remove vash! but what have you done? the same! you removes poeple of no reasons took righst of no reasons and stuff! you made the same **** like dayaa

meishanli · #8 10-18-2003, 03:08 PM

...I've read all this, and I have to say I agree with Nalle....She is the leader of Samurai, and she knows whats good or bad for her kingdom..she is only helping her kingdom.
I wasen't too keen on Nighthawks, because of Dayaa, as she wouldn't give Cece the mith which someone gave to Dayaa to give to her..so does that make her as a scammer?
I even tried talking to her about it, all she did was block me...hmmm sounds abit fishy doesn't it?

Well, you Nighthawks should be grateful you were even in a kingdom, and that Nalle gave you a chance, but oh no, your Queen mucks it up

Heh, there is some people in Nighthakws who are nice people, but the only person I don't really is Dayaa, thats such ashame on Vash, he was a well caring guy, even thought its not "real love" put yourself in Vash position, one day your online gf/bf says "I don't want to be with you anymore" without an explanation. Its gonna be very irritating or it might even hurt ;o
So...overall, Nh shouldn't even exist. Well thats just my opinoin.
And um good luck Nalle lol

LoveableNalle · #9 10-18-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by baywatch1
lol you really think tahst real life! a affair lover lol thats a game not a real love! maybe they havent seen each other in real life! You amke stupid desicions which noone likes i think! you shouldnt say it was wrong to remove vash! but what have you done? the same! you removes poeple of no reasons took righst of no reasons and stuff! you made the same **** like dayaa

Get a grip Michael , I wasnt talking about real life I was talking about in the game. If you didnt know you can see where people are by checking thier profile. When two people are seen in same place for long periods of time including the husband of one of them, it dont take a scientist to know whats going on. Vash along with other people noticed it. Don't think Vash didnt see it coming he talked to me about it several times. And it is hurtful (Michael in the game) to see your spouse hang out with another.

I made a decision for my kingdom and I did what I thought was best.
And one more thing, I am not saying im perfect because im not, but I wouldnt do something just to be mean. I do things as I see fit for my kingdom . I believe thats why leaders are assigned.

LoveableNalle · #10 10-18-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meishanli
...I've read all this, and I have to say I agree with Nalle....She is the leader of Samurai, and she knows whats good or bad for her kingdom..she is only helping her kingdom.
I wasen't too keen on Nighthawks, because of Dayaa, as she wouldn't give Cece the mith which someone gave to Dayaa to give to her..so does that make her as a scammer?
I even tried talking to her about it, all she did was block me...hmmm sounds abit fishy doesn't it?
Well, you Nighthawks should be grateful you were even in a kingdom, and that Nalle gave you a chance, but oh no, your Queen mucks it up Heh, there is some people in Nighthakws who are nice people, but the only person I don't really is Dayaa, thats such ashame on Vash, he was a well caring guy, even thought its not "real love" put yourself in Vash position, one day your online gf/bf says "I don't want to be with you anymore" without an explanation. Its gonna be very irritating or it might even hurt ;o
So...overall, Nh shouldn't even exist. Well thats just my opinoin.
And um good luck Nalle lol

Thanks for your support

GoldSri · #11 10-19-2003, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meishanli
...I've read all this, and I have to say I agree with Nalle....She is the leader of Samurai, and she knows whats good or bad for her kingdom..she is only helping her kingdom.
I wasen't too keen on Nighthawks, because of Dayaa, as she wouldn't give Cece the mith which someone gave to Dayaa to give to her..so does that make her as a scammer?
I even tried talking to her about it, all she did was block me...hmmm sounds abit fishy doesn't it?

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Im with Akira on this one, Iria had stolen a lot of my items and had been seen by a few graal members, giving my items and the copies of my keys to Daaya to give back to me...but all of a sudden Dayaa has had memory loss and has no idea what we are on about and refuses to speak to any of us. She gave away the mith for cecelia to Hawk. Now a leader of a sub-kingdom or what ever nighthawks is should be trust worthy and loyal, but by not giving the mith to Cecelia she has screwed over her own members.

Nalle has every right to kick the nighthawk members from the rankings, and unless nighthawks ditch dayaa i fully support Nalle!

Lyndzey · #12 10-21-2003, 08:47 PM

I thought NightHawks was a great idea because it gave newbies a chance to learn about Kingdoms. When Samurai started on Kingdoms, the whole kingdom worked together to make thinks like fortifications and armor. I saw the NightHawks doing these kinds of things.

Since most of the NightHawks were already Samurai members, I don't see why it was a bad move to allow everyone of them in. I guess things got out of hand though.

I do think that Dayaa did ask me for more rights or a higher rank. Come to think about it, almost everyone asked me for more rights and a higher rank except Hawk and Nayako. What's Dayaa's account name?

Borgie · #13 10-24-2003, 10:59 PM

well first, its good to hear that lyndzey is still alive
second, im VERY dissapointed of Misty and Akira! they have no idea whats going on in in the samurai guild and they are only saying that cuz they hate dayaa for personal reasons...
and last to nayoko: michael was right! you are kind of confused about RL and graal
i dont really know how you are in real life but you behvior on graal is horrible! i know you dont want to, but you are taking every kind of fun out of the game
[i am sorry for my typos... i didnt use a keyboard for about one week and kinda "forgot" how it works

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meishanli · #14 10-26-2003, 12:12 AM

Personal reasons or not, Dayaa made NightHawks fail. Her behavoir towards other people was ridiculous, not just me, and also, yeah she lies alot.
She made that second account, using Iria's old name, I mean, wth is that all about?? Then she says someones hacking in her old account, which I doubt, after everything she said, she just wanna hide and forget it. Well, I won't forget it.
I have reasons to dislike Dayaa.I don't like people who tells big lies. And Hawk, even though me and Misty are your friends, don't expect us to be on your side on this one. We all have our own opinons.
Infact, Nalle is doing a very good job. Hawk, why do you "hate" her so much? Cause she took NightHawks away? I know you loved NH, but it did get out of hand...
Anyway Nalle took away NightHawks, end of story, her kingdom.
Dyaa old acc was like raptor54321 (or the numbers the other way round) her new acc...cant remember, like rebon_soul or something.
p.s Hawk , I gave her many chances, as something happened before between us 2, then I realised shes Dayaa, power hungered, and will never change.

Borgie · #15 10-26-2003, 04:02 PM

I already said, i respect you opinion and i believe you that you have many reasons to hate dayaa
but still, its personal...
this is a "political" problem between NH and Samurai
And anyway, you cant know if nayoko does a good job cuz you member of Dustari! The only reason why your suddenly on her side is that she hates dayaa just like you...
To let you know, dayaa doesnt lie you jsut dont believe her...
Nighthawks did not fail, Samurai did

meishanli · #16 10-26-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Borgie
I already said, i respect you opinion and i believe you that you have many reasons to hate dayaa
but still, its personal...
this is a "political" problem between NH and Samurai
And anyway, you cant know if nayoko does a good job cuz you member of Dustari! The only reason why your suddenly on her side is that she hates dayaa just like you...
To let you know, dayaa doesnt lie you jsut dont believe her...
Nighthawks did not fail, Samurai did

Ok, ive got some things against Dayaa, doesn;t mean I haate all NightHawks. They were good, just Dayaa messed it up.
I do know Nalle is doing a good job, theres many samurai members running about, the guild is still active. And you say that isn't a good job?I didn't know Nalle at first, but when you were *****ing about her to me, I thought I wouldn't like her. Then I got to know her, what she was planning to do, the reasons why NH was kicked out, all of it was pretty reasonable. You don't know what Dayaa is liek when you're not around Hawk, what she says, you'd proberly like her cause she gave you Misty's mith lmao. Samurai was there first, the proper guild and kingdom, while nighthawks was something Nalle gave a chance to. But aw well, they messed up.

Splke · #17 10-29-2003, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by meishanli

Ok, ive got some things against Dayaa, doesn;t mean I haate all NightHawks. They were good, just Dayaa messed it up.
I do know Nalle is doing a good job, theres many samurai members running about, the guild is still active. And you say that isn't a good job?I didn't know Nalle at first, but when you were *****ing about her to me, I thought I wouldn't like her. Then I got to know her, what she was planning to do, the reasons why NH was kicked out, all of it was pretty reasonable. You don't know what Dayaa is liek when you're not around Hawk, what she says, you'd proberly like her cause she gave you Misty's mith lmao. Samurai was there first, the proper guild and kingdom, while nighthawks was something Nalle gave a chance to. But aw well, they messed up.

OMFG, Akira has a AIM and a Forums acct... this is some crazy shiz hoe... Your like, becomming, one of us Americans!!! Complainning about a game and everything! How uber.. <3 for punan

Anywhom. Samurai has always been ****, and always will be ****. This kingdom is a poor excuse for one. The leaders ***** about everything, yet do nothing, and their stupid members consist of scammers, and people who frown upon others attempts to RP...

And yet, their considered to be a RP kingdom, since they have active members, and a family which consists throughout the entire kingdom? Dude, talk about some ****ing incest there lol.

BTW, I asked about 3 different people what my advantage for joinning samurai was, and they all said different things.

1. Its likea gang. We watch out for eachoter
2. Your in a kingdom and dont have to do anything
3. I can scam and get away with it kekeke

That, was quite amusing to write. <3 for forums

meishanli · #18 10-29-2003, 11:26 PM

LMAO errrrrr i hardly log on AIM, i only go on aim for you...hahaha dont flatter yourself ;p
Na, I was just making my point, and sticking to it.
Your my punan <3

Splke · #19 10-30-2003, 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by meishanli
LMAO errrrrr i hardly log on AIM, i only go on aim for you...hahaha dont flatter yourself ;p
Na, I was just making my point, and sticking to it.
Your my punan <3

Rawr.. Wait.. no, Im not, wtf, bish hoe woman punan person!

\\ :P // K?! Haha, I win

And uhh, flattering myself isnt something I DO MUCH K?!

Im manic - depressive :O Crazy eh?

Anywhom, <3 for peoples

ReBorn_Spirit · #20 10-31-2003, 04:58 AM

Dayaa this... Dayaa that..
Do me a favor and let me take care of my guild ok!
I don't need to hear all of your opinions about me.
I know a bunch of you hate me, it hasn't stopped me yet.
Yes im talking about you Akira and Tasha.. or should i say Drikken.
Anyways... Nighthawks was removed from Samurai when i wasn't even online to defend them or try to do something about it.
Nayoko would rather punish the entire group all because of one bad person. Personally i dont care what you think of me... keep it to your self and stay in your own kingdoms forums. Oh well, I guess Nayoko can use her rights for her own personal problems. And to think I would of obeyed her every command.

Oh and if someone would of told me WHO'S... yes WHOS Mith that actually was it would of been returned.. thx for asking.. not!

I would agree with Spike.. Samurai is a piece.... you all know what i want to say but i wont say it. I am just a little more decent that. I have given up on getting this 3 year old guild Nighthawks, who have been dead once allready until I returned to Graal. I too was a soldier once, I am the old member of Nighthawks now and the leader has given it to me. Anyone who is not a Nighthawk now starts at the bottom, Therefore, Nayoko you are still considered a soldier, as with all of you. This is patetic, Argueing over a simple game, and getting all kinds of headaches because of what. ONE BAD PERSON saying something dumb. And it wasnt me, so don't even try and point that finger at me.

Splke · #21 10-31-2003, 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by ReBorn_Spirit
Dayaa this... Dayaa that..
Do me a favor and let me take care of my guild ok!
I don't need to hear all of your opinions about me.
I know a bunch of you hate me, it hasn't stopped me yet.
Yes im talking about you Akira and Tasha.. or should i say Drikken.
Anyways... Nighthawks was removed from Samurai when i wasn't even online to defend them or try to do something about it.
Nayoko would rather punish the entire group all because of one bad person. Personally i dont care what you think of me... keep it to your self and stay in your own kingdoms forums. Oh well, I guess Nayoko can use her rights for her own personal problems. And to think I would of obeyed her every command.

Oh and if someone would of told me WHO'S... yes WHOS Mith that actually was it would of been returned.. thx for asking.. not!

I would agree with Spike.. Samurai is a piece.... you all know what i want to say but i wont say it. I am just a little more decent that. I have given up on getting this 3 year old guild Nighthawks, who have been dead once allready until I returned to Graal. I too was a soldier once, I am the old member of Nighthawks now and the leader has given it to me. Anyone who is not a Nighthawk now starts at the bottom, Therefore, Nayoko you are still considered a soldier, as with all of you. This is patetic, Argueing over a simple game, and getting all kinds of headaches because of what. ONE BAD PERSON saying something dumb. And it wasnt me, so don't even try and point that finger at me.

Damn, flame time from sooo many people..

First off, Ima flame you for talking about Akira and Driken. "Personally i dont care what you think of me... keep it to your self and stay in your own kingdoms forums" is what you said right?

Follow your own words please. If you talk about Akira or Driken again, I wont have the decency to follow Forums rules. Not only that, but I'll make your Kingdoms life more of a hell then it already is. Understand this, NOBODY ****s with my friends... =/ I'll just go buy some RoW's or borrow some and **** up Samurai myself. =/

Then again, I agree with you that Nighthawks is an old guild. :O Its intresting to see people saying "Nub guild lmao k?" or something among those lines.

Anywhom, best of luck to both of you, drop this fight, and go your seperate ways. Oh, and btw... anewb (anU) for Samurai overlord :P He should be the new ruler

Love

-Argosax

ReBorn_Spirit · #22 10-31-2003, 07:39 AM

I am Keeping it to myself... I have to get them off my back first though.

Why do we sit and Argue about who did what. Does it really matter, you have just taken alot of fun out of the game by taking our tags away from us.

Splke · #23 10-31-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum

Nighthawks never should have been, you always terrorised new people and old people alike. You scam and everything, and you say one person messed you up? no, you all messed yourselves up

Watch your range of people you are targetting... I feel as if you didnt take the time to disclude me. ;_;

Zethar · #24 10-31-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum

Nighthawks never should have been, you always terrorised new people and old people alike. You scam and everything, and you say one person messed you up? no, you all messed yourselves up

What;s wrong with nighthawks. I haven't heard anything bad about them :/
You on the other hand......jk

ReBorn_Spirit · #25 10-31-2003, 09:16 AM

I dont like Denori, He was remove from NH for a good reason.

DenoriZakarum · #26 10-31-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by ReBorn_Spirit
I dont like Denori, He was remove from NH for a good reason.

actually, it was a quite foolish reason. The reason was: You havge to be in Samurai to be in NH, I was in CP. I dont see how that is a good reason but w/e and splke, your my best friend, i didnt mean you in with that nh, some NH's are nice, but most are plain fools

ReBorn_Spirit · #27 10-31-2003, 09:46 AM

I know Most Nighthawks are Plain fools, I was working on getting those people either better educated on how to RP or get them out of Nighthawks.

Anywho, As soon as Nighthawks has Tag of whatever form again we will be using stricter recruitment rules and a possible test too, to weed out the "plain fools" or whatever you wish to call them.

Splke · #28 10-31-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum

actually, it was a quite foolish reason. The reason was: You havge to be in Samurai to be in NH, I was in CP. I dont see how that is a good reason but w/e and splke, your my best friend, i didnt mean you in with that nh, some NH's are nice, but most are plain fools

omi, im yer best friend :O course, on graal u mean.

omi, im yer... wait, I said that

<3 fo denori

and

LMAO AT ZETHAR LMAO LELELELE SHIFT +111!!1!!!!11

kthx <3

meishanli · #29 10-31-2003, 08:38 PM

oh man how bling bling this arguement is...
Dayaa your just a ***. End of story. You stole the mith won't return, actually HAWK was only willing to return it, not you. You're the one who "gave away" it.

LIKE AMAGAD you don't care what I and "other people" think? Then why did you post on the forum?

Errr why you always include Driken in this? He said nothing, and you always say "hes a crossdersser" and **** , and even more **** to me the other night. You just won't face of what you said, so you made a new acc. You were calling me a "guy" as well, blah blah blah..and so on. Argo and loads of people was there, so don't deny it.
You don't know the first rules of rping you, so how can you teach the beginners? And I can go anywhere on the forum I like. Not your graal world you selifsh ass.
Um anyway, leave Drik outta this, he has nothing to do with this, never said anything.
and um oh yeah <3for Argo and Denori

ReBorn_Spirit · #30 11-01-2003, 01:36 AM

Its a Known fact that you cannot change the password to an account that you dont have the email address to. Now someone else got ahold of that password so i had to get a new account and have the old one banned, there is nothing wrong with making shure that somone else doesnt get free access to graal. Or following the rules the best i can. I got it banned for account sharing, i even admitted it to the staff that someone went on my account and i wanted it banned. It was a good p2p, nothing wrong with it, except one big thing. Not only was it 4 years old, but i couldnt change its password, and Hawk doesnt want to give up that armour, i actually gave Cecelia some other armor that was atleast somewhat decent for this mix up.

Lyndzey · #31 11-01-2003, 05:20 AM

This thread has gone too far.

NightHawks and Samurai are no longer together, end of story. I hope someone continues to keep NightHawks alive because I always thought it was a really good idea and helped a lot of newbies get used to the game. There were a lot of newbies in NH when I was Empress which is why I didn't plan on merging us together.

Please stop harassing Dayaa and the Empress. I have been a leader of a kingdom before and I'm sure it's not easy for either of them to manage a kingdom/group. Let them try to do their jobs without your interference.

I am closing this thread because it has become a name calling argument.