Exp System Preset

draiden0 · #1 10-02-2003, 01:31 PM

Have a Exp System preset into the graal engine. I feel graal could have one final thing that would make them greater than any other game engine available free. And that is a exp engine like rpg maker's. Now I know rpg maker isn't free... cough. But I see a lot of players and developers trying to make their own exp system. It can't be that hard to add in? Right?

if(playertouchsme){
set playerhasexp;}
if(playerhasexp){
playlevel+1;
hp+10%;
mp+10%
def+.6%;
agi+.5%}
if(exp==10){
playlevel=+1;
message You have gained Lvl2!;
//a string to save the current lvl}
if(exp==20){
playlevel=+1;
message You have gained lvl3;
}

I know there's flaws in here. But it's not that hard to make an exp engine. Once you get the first lvl gain working. Then from there players can make variations.

Qwert616 · #2 10-02-2003, 03:38 PM

Well, if pws script their own system then it would be more unique. Also, scripters would probably be more comfortable editing their own systems...

DustyPorViva · #3 10-02-2003, 03:53 PM

Scripting it yourself would be far more superior.

Qwert616 · #4 10-02-2003, 04:05 PM

On a side note, Draiden. It seems like this is another attempt to get out of scripting an exp system. ^_^;;

Kaimetsu · #5 10-02-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by draiden0
But it's not that hard to make an exp engine.

Then why are you so intent on using somebody else's?

draiden0 · #6 10-02-2003, 11:52 PM

I'd rather see more tools available. Is that too much to ask for?

DustyPorViva · #7 10-02-2003, 11:56 PM

Which is one of the reasons Graal has scripting.

Qwert616 · #8 10-03-2003, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
I'd rather see more tools available. Is that too much to ask for?

If it is that easy, then players should really learn to do it themselves.

Game creating programs like RPG Maker do have premade level systems, but, honestly, it is very cliche and boring to play with. Giving the average players this tool will just cause a large ammount of boring, repetitive, leveling servers.

Kaimetsu · #9 10-03-2003, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
I'd rather see more tools available. Is that too much to ask for?

Specifically the tools that you can't code yourself

deman1171 · #10 10-03-2003, 06:30 AM

Yea, but it's too hard for me, putting a bunch of words togethor to make something e.e

DustyPorViva · #11 10-03-2003, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by deman1171
Yea, but it's too hard for me, putting a bunch of words togethor to make something e.e

LOL, that description kind of sounds like how you go about constructing sentences...

Dach · #12 10-03-2003, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by DustyPorViva

LOL, that description kind of sounds like how you go about constructing sentences...

Well, she would be right in that case, as we can tell.

geez, this is lame...

draiden0 · #13 10-04-2003, 03:55 AM

Sigh, most people don't go anywhere near scripting. They say, "I'm looking for a job. I can do anything! Hire me, I'm good."
To scare them away I say, "Can you do scripting? Because that's all our add really calls for, (if you bothered to read it.)"

They run away screaming. I have yet to get a scripter. I want to work on stuff like lightening effects, or bugs that make you sick when you stay near them too long. But instead I have to figure out an entire exp system by myself. So, yeah people are ungoldy afraid of c++ and a tool or two would make it easier.

I just added lightening effects to my game. My last scripter went off into oblivion. I sure like doing all the freaking work, all 1000 hours of it! Yep that's me!

Qwert616 · #14 10-04-2003, 03:58 AM

Maybe this is just my thinking, but I would put the main PW system over small things like graphical effects and little effects. Prioritize, man

Kaimetsu · #15 10-04-2003, 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
But instead I have to figure out an entire exp system by myself.

Thought you said it was easy?

superb · #16 10-04-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
Sigh, most people don't go anywhere near scripting. They say, "I'm looking for a job. I can do anything! Hire me, I'm good."
To scare them away I say, "Can you do scripting? Because that's all our add really calls for, (if you bothered to read it.)"

They run away screaming. I have yet to get a scripter. I want to work on stuff like lightening effects, or bugs that make you sick when you stay near them too long. But instead I have to figure out an entire exp system by myself. So, yeah people are ungoldy afraid of c++ and a tool or two would make it easier.

I just added lightening effects to my game. My last scripter went off into oblivion. I sure like doing all the freaking work, all 1000 hours of it! Yep that's me!

If you have such a damned problem with having to do a little work, then maybe developing a playerworld is not for you.

draiden0 · #17 10-06-2003, 12:15 AM

I just overhauled over 600 zones 3x. Then, I overhauled them again another 2x to add in lighting effects, new weapons, and more detail. Then I worked on over 250 zones for Ithica 3. I scripted 12 weapons, worked my ass off for 5 weeks straight, still not stopping, and all I asked for was alittle help. I mean I say, can you make 10 zones, or work with a -new- tileset, or script a hat system, or anything that remotley resembles 1 hour of work? They say, I'll get back to you. Then they disappear like Jimmy Hoffa.

So tell you what, when I make my exp system. As in freaking mine! I will share it with anyone who wants it. Now, I have to get back to work.

DustyPorViva · #18 10-06-2003, 12:36 AM

You mean put out work that looks like Ithica?
I can do that easy in no time at all...

HunterTerryon · #19 10-06-2003, 11:20 PM

good scripters are hard to find.I don't mean someone who can make a simple npc but a good solid scripter that can make just about anything and isnt lazy.I am still looking and if I keep getting the same results I am going to hire a coder to do everything.

superb · #20 10-07-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
good scripters are hard to find.I don't mean someone who can make a simple npc but a good solid scripter that can make just about anything and isnt lazy.I am still looking and if I keep getting the same results I am going to hire a coder to do everything.

If you build it, they will come.

draiden0 · #21 10-07-2003, 11:03 PM

<quote>good scripters are hard to find.I don't mean someone who can make a simple npc but a good solid scripter that can make just about anything and isnt lazy.I am still looking and if I keep getting the same results I am going to hire a coder to do everything.</quote>

Yeah, all I see are lazy slackers with egos so large I get annoyed. I will build it. I will buid it freaking big! But they won't come. I garauntee that. It just means they'll be more determined to stay on with a job that requires no work at all. Even the ones that did some work load are now just seeing if they can get lvl 5 access. I've always seen higher positions as more responsibility, and more work loads. They see it as a chance to boost their oversized egos. They will never get it unless they can earn it. I have to tell them that every other day.

Python523 · #22 10-08-2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
<quote>good scripters are hard to find.I don't mean someone who can make a simple npc but a good solid scripter that can make just about anything and isnt lazy.I am still looking and if I keep getting the same results I am going to hire a coder to do everything.</quote>

Yeah, all I see are lazy slackers with egos so large I get annoyed. I will build it. I will buid it freaking big! But they won't come. I garauntee that. It just means they'll be more determined to stay on with a job that requires no work at all. Even the ones that did some work load are now just seeing if they can get lvl 5 access. I've always seen higher positions as more responsibility, and more work loads. They see it as a chance to boost their oversized egos. They will never get it unless they can earn it. I have to tell them that every other day.

Your stereotyping is uncalled for, just because you have bad experiances doesn't mean every scripter is like that. Most good scripters don't act like that, you probably haven't had any decent scripters join your server if all they do is beg.

Level 5 RC? You should know as a manager of a server that it only goes up to 4 (there is a global level 5 but it is reserved only for Stefan and unixmad).

Lance · #23 10-08-2003, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
Yeah, all I see are lazy slackers with egos so large I get annoyed.

As a lazy slacker with a large ego, I take offense to that.

superb · #24 10-08-2003, 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
<quote>good scripters are hard to find.I don't mean someone who can make a simple npc but a good solid scripter that can make just about anything and isnt lazy.I am still looking and if I keep getting the same results I am going to hire a coder to do everything.</quote>

Yeah, all I see are lazy slackers with egos so large I get annoyed. I will build it. I will buid it freaking big! But they won't come. I garauntee that. It just means they'll be more determined to stay on with a job that requires no work at all. Even the ones that did some work load are now just seeing if they can get lvl 5 access. I've always seen higher positions as more responsibility, and more work loads. They see it as a chance to boost their oversized egos. They will never get it unless they can earn it. I have to tell them that every other day.

Okay, I'll revise that.

If you build it, and it's GOOD, they will come. Ithica quality worlds will not attract good scripters. I'm sorry, but it's true man.

HunterTerryon · #25 10-08-2003, 02:27 AM

the thing is I kinda need them to build it.... I can make 70% the graphics I can fill 3 note books with ideas and I can make concept art I can do some of the sound track and the levels amd it would take me a while but then I need a scripter and I want one now so once I do all that its not for nothing.

Qwert616 · #26 10-08-2003, 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
the thing is I kinda need them to build it.... I can make 70% the graphics I can fill 3 note books with ideas and I can make concept art I can do some of the sound track and the levels amd it would take me a while but then I need a scripter and I want one now so once I do all that its not for nothing.

Why not just simply learn how to script? ~.^

G_yoshi · #27 10-08-2003, 04:34 AM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

Why not just simply learn how to script? ~.^

Yes...NPCs are your friend

Dach · #28 10-08-2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

Why not just simply learn how to script? ~.^

That's not quite the best alternative for many people, unfortunately... Some people just can't script (or rather because of certain circumstances will never become good enough to be making stuff for servers)

draiden0 · #29 10-08-2003, 12:31 PM

I forgot. Over 3 years is stereo typing. Gee, then my opinions of your system are meaningless. Well here's a meaningless comment. Quit defending your oversized egos.

And as I've said before after I make my exp system I will give it to anyone who wants it. Because I know only the truley talented will know what an exp system is, and how to use one. The rest will poke it with a stick and run away. I give a damn about sharing.

Kaimetsu · #30 10-08-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by draiden0
I forgot. Over 3 years is stereo typing.

In those three years, have any competent scripters applied to work for you? I think it unlikely; what would be the point, when they can go work on a project that isn't doomed to failure?

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Because I know only the truley talented will know what an exp system is, and how to use one.

If that's the case then I don't favour your chances of successfully building one

draiden0 · #31 10-08-2003, 12:48 PM

I'm still here, and that must piss you off the most.

Wait and see Ithica 3. I'll get there, bit by bit. You can download our unworthy tileset on our npc server. 1 of 12. Yawn...

Kaimetsu · #32 10-08-2003, 03:26 PM

Why would your presence irritate me? I think you're funny.

HunterTerryon · #33 10-08-2003, 08:50 PM

I am learning a little scripting from dell I already new the most simple stuff like commands.Its hard for me though because im visual and I like things with pictures like making graphics and drawing and doing animation as opposed to lots of words and letters and brackets.Also with the kind of thing im planing I think im going to have to hire someone to do the code anyway because other than stefan and a few gst no one could make this.

marcoR · #34 10-08-2003, 09:18 PM

I understand what you mean, I can think these things up, and the logic of the script... but when I come to script, I can never ever do it, and if I do... I'll quote booj: "Well, welcome to the number one most lagiest script on the server *points to server lag NPCs list thing*" me: "

"

I'm hoping I'll have a fresh-er start when the new engine comes out.

HunterTerryon · #35 10-09-2003, 03:14 AM

unless the new engine is similar to that trigger maker in starcraft I doubt I will ever become a good scripter.

Python523 · #36 10-09-2003, 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by marcoR
I understand what you mean, I can think these things up, and the logic of the script... but when I come to script, I can never ever do it, and if I do... I'll quote booj: "Well, welcome to the number one most lagiest script on the server *points to server lag NPCs list thing*" me: ""

I'm hoping I'll have a fresh-er start when the new engine comes out.

If you can't understand the old engine, sorry to sound mean but, you probably have no chance of understanding the new

marcoR · #37 10-09-2003, 03:52 AM

I will try, or fail trying, and say "now just wait for the next engine..."

HunterTerryon · #38 10-09-2003, 06:18 AM

so what will be included in the new engine thats so specail? What I would really like to see from graalonline is a level editor with layers.This would be better that having thousands of webgifs.

DustyPorViva · #39 10-09-2003, 06:25 AM

From what I heard there won't be an offline level editor.

Eric_1337 · #40 10-09-2003, 06:53 AM

scripting isn't that hard =x. You can't expect to master it in a matter of hours like most of you 12-13 year olds think. It'll take time. Unless of coarse you've had exp with other programming languages that resemble Gscript then a matter of hours maybe in your grasp, but the ones complaining im assuming don't program in any other language besides freaky-deaky html, with already made templetes. d-.-b