Lack of moderation - Page 2

Dude6252000 · #41 08-19-2003, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Nick1988
I think Karsh would make a good one. He's on the forums all the time ;o

Because I have absolutely no life at the moment. :]

CheeToS2 · #42 08-19-2003, 01:52 AM

Kamuii lives here.

Deek2 · #43 08-19-2003, 02:06 AM

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Kamuii lives here.

He does.

Googi · #44 08-19-2003, 02:28 AM

I still don't see just where there's a lack of moderation.

Amagius · #45 08-19-2003, 02:28 AM

I wouldn't petition and push the idea, but I think I could become one and take care of the place a bit.

Deek2 · #46 08-19-2003, 02:29 AM

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I still don't see just where there's a lack of moderation.

What do you mean? There's arguments all over this forum and none of them are being handled.

Minoc · #47 08-19-2003, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2

What do you mean? There's arguments all over this forum and none of them are being handled.

Because usually they shouldn't be handled

Deek2 · #48 08-19-2003, 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by Minoc

Because usually they shouldn't be handled

What kind of logic is that? It's best to delete/close them then to let them get out of hand.

Amagius · #49 08-19-2003, 02:46 AM

I have mixed feelings. This gossip over playworlds is out of hand, and the Tyrial vs. Konidias is bad, because you can't shut Tyrial up over the sort. He attempted a point, failed, and should wait a while and lay, not continue with this ... sadness. BUT, it allows the community to view these and view and add ideas, opinions, etc.

Deek2 · #50 08-19-2003, 02:50 AM

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I have mixed feelings. This gossip over playworlds is out of hand, and the Tyrial vs. Konidias is bad, because you can't shut Tyrial up over the sort. He attempted a point, failed, and should wait a while and lay, not continue with this ... sadness. BUT, it allows the community to view these and view and add ideas, opinions, etc.

Yes, but it's not helping any if those ideas, opinions, etc. are biased and negative and are adding to whats making this forum less and less enjoyable. Tyrial and Konidias can't be the people to blame, alot of people flame here, and it's not the main goal of human communication to argue about the smallest things every second of our lives.

DragonX · #51 08-19-2003, 02:52 AM

Not Konidias. He seriously needs to shift gears and get working on Oasis! We don't want another Doragon Koden...(No offense GYoshi, but seriously, it's been like more than a year and a half..)

Deek2 · #52 08-19-2003, 02:55 AM

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Not Konidias. He seriously needs to shift gears and get working on Oasis! We don't want another Doragon Koden...(No offense GYoshi, but seriously, it's been like more than a year and a half..)

They arn't drones, ya' know. I'm sure they're alot busier with other things in life.

Amagius · #53 08-19-2003, 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2

Yes, but it's not helping any if those ideas, opinions, etc. are biased and negative and are adding to whats making this forum less and less enjoyable. Tyrial and Konidias can't be the people to blame, alot of people flame here, and it's not the main goal of human communication to argue about the smallest things every second of our lives.

True. It's past the boundaries, but my main point is that, conflict is VERY MUCH healthy and needed for a community; BUT it's spreading and leading us nowhere except to a backyard school brawl.

DragonX · #54 08-19-2003, 02:58 AM

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They arn't drones, ya' know. I'm sure they're alot busier with other things in life.

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If you had a year and a half, I am sure you could atleast open up a couple of levels for people to play on. Servers shouldn't take almost 2 years just to be released, that is WAY too much time.

Deek2 · #55 08-19-2003, 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by Amagius

True. It's past the boundaries, but my main point is that, conflict is VERY MUCH healthy and needed for a community; BUT it's spreading and leading us nowhere except to a backyard school brawl.

Conflicts can be allowed to a point. That being everyone is mature enough to pertain in them enough that they don't: Act like 4 year olds, they don't fight with the different party, and they don't complain and start flame wars. Not everyone is going to agree on one thing, whats going to prevent them to use their -acceptable- free expression?

Deek2 · #56 08-19-2003, 03:04 AM

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If you had a year and a half, I am sure you could atleast open up a couple of levels for people to play on. Servers shouldn't take almost 2 years just to be released, that is WAY too much time.

Rushing them isn't going to help any. Let's take some of the well though out movies (like Jurassic Park, etc.) for example. They took 5 years to make, and look how they came out. And you have to remember only a select few people are working on these. If they wanted to make them as best as possible, to there full ability, they arn't going to rush it. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Amagius · #57 08-19-2003, 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2

Conflicts can be allowed to a point. That being everyone is mature enough to pertain in them enough that they don't: Act like 4 year olds, they don't fight with the different party, and they don't complain and start flame wars. Not everyone is going to agree on one thing, whats going to prevent them to use their -acceptable- free expression?

To a point. I stated that.
All this is EXACTLY the reason for a supermod or another mod. I'm sure Kai will see this soon, though. When it gets down to this gossip crap like Faldur > Andor, I know something is wrong.

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Rome wasn't built in a day.

Prove it.

Deek2 · #58 08-19-2003, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Amagius

To a point. I stated that.
All this is EXACTLY the reason for a supermod or another mod. I'm sure Kai will see this soon, though. When it gets down to this gossip crap like Faldur > Andor, I know something is wrong.

Kaimetsu, I think, is an excellent mod. He just needs to come on more. Admins need to be active and up to date with what they are controlling.

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Prove it.

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You prove to me Rome wasn't built in a day. You need to remember that there technology was pretty, well, non-technologic.

DragonX · #59 08-19-2003, 03:09 AM

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Rushing them isn't going to help any. Let's take some of the well though out movies (like Jurassic Park, etc.) for example. They took 5 years to make, and look how they came out. And you have to remember only a select few people are working on these. If they wanted to make them as best as possible, to there full ability, they arn't going to rush it. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Look at Unholy Nation. It did not take them 5 years to make it, and it has the most players.

Amagius · #60 08-19-2003, 03:11 AM

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You prove to me Rome wasn't built in a day. You need to remember that there technology was pretty, well, non-technologic.

Well, I was joking, but think of it, we don't understand how the Pyramids were built. Something special could've happened.

Deek2 · #61 08-19-2003, 03:36 AM

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Well, I was joking, but think of it, we don't understand how the Pyramids were built. Something special could've happened.

From the research that we've found, they were built using the ordinary labor that they had those days (which was pulling extremley heavy bricks and stacking them on top of each other). It might seem that this explanation is extremley unlikely for such a monstruosity of a creation, but then again, the pyramid was a perfect geometrical figure when it was finished (which isn't the case for today's weathering and deterioration of the structure). I'm sure if the pyramids were as perfect today as they were back then, they would almost seem alien-like.

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What dragonx said

And do you know why? Think. They have games, constant events, sparring, pking, a good playerbase (which attracts new people = more people that play the server = higher playercount), pets, everything that would want to make a player come back over and over again. We might think of UN as a poor excuse of a playerworld when it comes to skill and quality on how it was made, but it was still successfull, nontheless.

Questa · #62 08-19-2003, 04:38 AM

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Look at Unholy Nation. It did not take them 5 years to make it, and it has the most players.

5?! Try 2, buddy.

Deek2 · #63 08-19-2003, 04:52 AM

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5?! Try 2, buddy.

He't not saying it was made in 5 years.

Questa · #64 08-19-2003, 04:55 AM

Oh crap. I skipped over that part.

Amagius · #65 08-19-2003, 05:02 AM

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Oh crap. I skipped over that part.

ehe. HEHE. KEKEK. Hahah.

You skipped over one-third of a sentence, just to make a retort to correct him?

Questa · #66 08-19-2003, 05:03 AM

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ehe. HEHE. KEKEK. Hahah.

You skipped over one-third of a sentence, just to make a retort to correct him?

I'm tired, okay?

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1000th post

Deek2 · #67 08-19-2003, 05:17 AM

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I'm tired, okay?

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1000th post

Then sleep is a possible answer. Posting with an absence of mind has no excuse for the lack of sleep. <3

Questa · #68 08-19-2003, 05:39 AM

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Then sleep is a possible answer. Posting with an absence of mind has no excuse for the lack of sleep. <3

you're absolutely correct. I do need to get some sleep. My posts have been littered with errors tonight. So it's night night for me.

Deek2 · #69 08-19-2003, 05:48 AM

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you're absolutely correct. I do need to get some sleep. My posts have been littered with errors tonight. So it's night night for me.

Go! Go, and be free! Free from the world that we live in!

Googi · #70 08-19-2003, 07:55 AM

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What do you mean? There's arguments all over this forum and none of them are being handled.

That's because there's no rules against arguments so long as personal insults aren't used.

Deek2 · #71 08-19-2003, 08:05 AM

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That's because there's no rules against arguments so long as personal insults aren't used.

Gah, whoever thought that up is pretty biased.

Valder · #72 08-19-2003, 09:07 AM

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Gah, whoever thought that up is pretty biased.

Why do you say that? Arguments help bring new ideas. They also help to bring up some relevant points.

Deek2 · #73 08-19-2003, 09:09 AM

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Why do you say that? Arguments help bring new ideas. They also help to bring up some relevant points.

No no no. I'm not talking about those type of arguments. I'm talking about the type that are tasteless, senseless, and have absolutely no meaning of existance whatsoever.

Valder · #74 08-19-2003, 09:09 AM

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No no no. I'm not talking about those type of arguments. I'm talking about the type that are tasteless, senseless, and have absolutely no meaning of existance whatsoever.

Those can be fun.

Deek2 · #75 08-19-2003, 09:12 AM

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Those can be fun.

But are really not needed, especially the shape these forums are in right now.

HoudiniMan · #76 08-19-2003, 09:17 AM

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Well, I don't visit the playerworld forums, but the managers are supposed to moderate those, not Kai.

I was referring to the forum entitled "Classic/Playerworlds Main Forum" aka the playerworld forums.

This wasn't a thread to elect a new mod, this was making a public point of the problem. Koni doesn't need to be admin again just because he's experienced and i don't want to argue about it. I don't care who, im just saying we need moderation. All we have right now is Kaimetsu who will act if you bring it to his attention (yes he does cover a lot of ground, but he posts in all those places too) but he can't actively read every new thread and police their progress.

Deek2 · #77 08-19-2003, 09:19 AM

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I was referring to the forum entitled "Classic/Playerworlds Main Forum" aka the playerworld forums.

This wasn't a thread to elect a new mod, this was making a public point of the problem. Koni doesn't need to be admin again just because he's experienced and i don't want to argue about it. I don't care who, im just saying we need moderation. All we have right now is Kaimetsu who will act if you bring it to his attention (yes he does cover a lot of ground, but he posts in all those places too) but he can't actively read every new thread and police their progress.

Right, I say we need at least 2 more mods that can take care of these things. Just one person is simply too little to handle such an active forum as these.

HoudiniMan · #78 08-19-2003, 09:22 AM

At least one for the PW forum alone, if not two
The PWA used to do this, Spark could but he doesn't want to and im not really sure im good mod material - though Kaimetsu wouldn't make me a mod anyway.

At least 1-2 for PW forum, aparently NGR as well and i think Kamuii would be good for NGR/Main personally... but what do i matter

Deek2 · #79 08-19-2003, 09:27 AM

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At least one for the PW forum alone, if not two
The PWA used to do this, Spark could but he doesn't want to and im not really sure im good mod material - though Kaimetsu wouldn't make me a mod anyway.

At least 1-2 for PW forum, aparently NGR as well and i think Kamuii would be good for NGR/Main personally... but what do i matter

I don't think I would make good mod material, either. Though I wish I was. I'm sure alot more people here hate me more than they like me. I can be serious if I want to, but I do flex too much, and to some people's disliking, which would proabably be the case in this situation. There's alot of people that come to these forums, I'm sure we could pick some out.

Judge_S · #80 08-19-2003, 09:38 AM

Hmm, I'd say myself, were it not for two reasons:
1: Most people nominate themselves, so why should anyone think I would be any different?
2: I haven't made a big impact on the forums, be it a positive, or negative way. Therefore, no one knows who I am, correct?