Everyones hard work.

deman1171 · #1 07-26-2003, 11:15 PM

Thanks alot for all you guys who don't even play Graal2000 for ruining everyones hard work and getting it back old and stupid EVERYONE is complaining on it...and you fired some of the best staff..

deman1171 · #2 07-26-2003, 11:17 PM

And the thing why everyone came here for--Events....why did you take it down? Theres nothing to do but complain and PK now.

Dude6252000 · #3 07-26-2003, 11:19 PM

1. This is declared reviving a thread.
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and you fired some of the best staff..

Corrupt isn't good.
3. Graal2000 is supposed to be old graal, NOT super duper uber 1337 coolmeister playerworld land 6000.
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Theres nothing to do but complain and PK now.

Welcome to old Graal.

deman1171 · #4 07-26-2003, 11:23 PM

Not all the staff were corrupt like Phantom he worked his ass off helping people and Only two people on the server like it....so your ruining this big time and let me tell you Karsh you get one my last damn nerve ugh i don't give a **** wether you like me or not.

W4nk5t4 · #5 07-26-2003, 11:25 PM

Emily, whining isn't going to get it back up.

Dude6252000 · #6 07-26-2003, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by deman1171
Not all the staff were corrupt like Phantom he worked his ass off helping people and Only two people on the server like it....so your ruining this big time and let me tell you Karsh you get one my last damn nerve ugh i don't give a **** wether you like me or not.

Phantom was aiding a corrupt manager, and turning the server that's supposed to be Graal a while back into a playerworld.
And how come you always think I'm out to get you when I prove a point? My points are common sense.

Ghost Pirate · #7 07-26-2003, 11:27 PM

Go on Graal: The Adventure.....

deman1171 · #8 07-26-2003, 11:38 PM

I would but they said "We are the Classic server we never update were classic we can;t update we want to remain classic" AKA:"We just took G2k's levels and updated them added new stuff and said were classic"

Dude6252000 · #9 07-26-2003, 11:41 PM

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I would but they said "We are the Classic server we never update were classic we can;t update we want to remain classic" AKA:"We just took G2k's levels and updated them added new stuff and said were classic"

.. What the hell? You've completely lost me. It sounds like you're trying to say Classic stole levels from Graal2000. *twitch*

deman1171 · #10 07-27-2003, 12:05 AM

No i'm just saying some guy is coming on g2k with barely any hours and saying that this is better idiots so shutup you know nothing and crap like taht and saying graal the adventure evolves and wich it doesent as i was told by a staff member on there.

Dude6252000 · #11 07-27-2003, 12:10 AM

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No i'm just saying some guy is coming on g2k with barely any hours and saying that this is better idiots so shutup you know nothing and crap like taht and saying graal the adventure evolves and wich it doesent as i was told by a staff member on there.

It matters if it evolves? And by the way, the staff member is wrong. The server is supposed to evolve. The only reason it doesn't is because the staff are usually lazy.

Neonight · #12 07-27-2003, 12:17 AM

What are you getting at? Are you saying Graal: The Adventure is a copy of Graal 2000? I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but Graal 2000 was just added somewhat recently. The whole point of it was to play the old levels. There were no events back then. They were trying to turn 2000 into a playerworld.

And I'm going to tell you this before you say anything back:

Graal: The Adventure (Classic) is not a playerworld.

Minoc · #13 07-27-2003, 12:18 AM

More than 100 supported it so ^_^

MadWolf · #14 07-27-2003, 12:41 AM

What did I miss?
Hey Emily, you could write a book on all the complaints and questions you post.

Minoc · #15 07-27-2003, 01:34 AM

Hopefully the annoying Muddy supporters will be gone soon.
They are currently harassing me and using trainers all over the place xD It's still better though.

warp2ukew · #16 07-27-2003, 06:10 AM

Minoc you know somebody is trying to get you globally banned, right? Ill talk to you over AIM.

deman1171 · #17 07-27-2003, 06:12 AM

Ahh, it's kinda good it got me back into DD and i got the job of Assistant RP admin right away XD

Nick1988 · #18 07-27-2003, 07:25 AM

This thread is pointless.....

deman1171 · #19 07-27-2003, 08:59 AM

Not really.

superb · #20 07-27-2003, 09:27 AM

My only problem is that Tyhm did a REALLY HALFASSED reset. It's almost inexcusable.

Tseng · #21 07-27-2003, 09:33 AM

Didn't that whole project exist to show that what people wanted was not the old levels, but the old people?

...and, didn't it prove that point very well?

Edit: Whoo, Jackpot! *coins pour out of floppy drive* Lucky 7s, 777th post!

superb · #22 07-27-2003, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tseng
Didn't that whole project exist to show that what people wanted was not the old levels, but the old people?

...and, didn't it prove that point very well?

Edit: Whoo, Jackpot! *coins pour out of floppy drive* Lucky 7s, 777th post!

Yes to an extent. But like I was saying in the other thread, once the server began to evolve, the playercount steadily increased to a stable count of about 40 or better at peak hours and it would continue to be steady late into the night. Now that Tyhm left everything in a chaotic state and did a halfassed reset it's pretty dead. I guess it doesn't matter now. Tyhm's probably just going to let it rot so it was fun while it lasted. I enjoyed doing all the staff jobs I had there, but the most rewarding was guild admin I think. BTW, I was NOT corrupt.

Tseng · #23 07-27-2003, 09:44 AM

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Yes to an extent. But like I was saying in the other thread, once the server began to evolve, the playercount steadily increased to a stable count of about 40 or better at peak hours and it would continue to be steady late into the night. Now that Tyhm left everything in a chaotic state and did a halfassed reset it's pretty dead. I guess it doesn't matter now. Tyhm's probably just going to let it rot so it was fun while it lasted. I enjoyed doing all the staff jobs I had there, but the most rewarding was guild admin I think. BTW, I was NOT corrupt.

And doesn't that prove even further Tyhm's point that letting the server evolve (like Graal: The Adventure did) was the way to attract/keep a playercount?

I wonder why he hasn't simply had that server shut down.

superb · #24 07-27-2003, 09:47 AM

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And doesn't that prove even further Tyhm's point that letting the server evolve (like Graal: The Adventure did) was the way to attract/keep a playercount?

I wonder why he hasn't simply had that server shut down.

He's just trying to give the people what they want. Unfortunately the people can't make up their damned minds. Personally I thought it was cool evolving the old levels pack...taking it into a different direction than what Tyhm did with them...The server still had the old feel but fresh things would pop up (though some of the new things really sucked like Kiranos)...Anyway, it's done and it was nice while it lasted.

Tseng · #25 07-27-2003, 09:49 AM

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He's just trying to give the people what they want. Unfortunately the people can't make up their damned minds.

No, he was trying to prove that people didn't know what they wanted.

superb · #26 07-27-2003, 09:52 AM

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No, he was trying to prove that people didn't know what they wanted.

Yes that was his original intention...I'm talking about why he reset the server.

Minoc · #27 07-27-2003, 10:49 AM

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My only problem is that Tyhm did a REALLY HALFASSED reset. It's almost inexcusable.

Yeah, but I think he'll repair it later.
The way the ex-staff members acted after being fired just justified it.

Minoc · #28 07-27-2003, 10:55 AM

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Minoc you know somebody is trying to get you globally banned, right? Ill talk to you over AIM.

Probably Exgear o_O

Minoc · #29 07-27-2003, 05:02 PM

The players should be reset as well =\
The ex-staff members are abusing their 'private' NPCs.

deman1171 · #30 07-27-2003, 06:31 PM

Oooh, the doll dispencor is so fun though XD

superb · #31 07-27-2003, 09:50 PM

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Yeah, but I think he'll repair it later.
The way the ex-staff members acted after being fired just justified it.

Hey, don't put us all in the same boat.

I have barely been on there an hour since the reset and I haven't "acted out" because I don't care that I was fired. Though I did nothing wrong and was doing a damned fine job as guild admin...I don't care...You got what you want...The server's going to die unless Tyhm fixes his shotty reset. I agree about players being reset however because some staff did have npcs that they shouldn't have had. Why they have to be pissants and abuse them is beyond me, but I know I had no part in the corruption that was going on.

Minoc · #32 07-27-2003, 10:21 PM

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Hey, don't put us all in the same boat. I have barely been on there an hour since the reset and I haven't "acted out" because I don't care that I was fired. Though I did nothing wrong and was doing a damned fine job as guild admin...I don't care...You got what you want...The server's going to die unless Tyhm fixes his shotty reset. I agree about players being reset however because some staff did have npcs that they shouldn't have had. Why they have to be pissants and abuse them is beyond me, but I know I had no part in the corruption that was going on.

I meant both of them, you were one of the few that weren't corrupted D:
The current Graal2000 isn't exactly what I wanted, but I find it better than before.
Also, according to what I've been told, the next version of Graal wouldn't support playerworlds without NPC servers, so the server is doomed anyway.