Problem with Swear Filter

magicbud3344 · #1 04-19-2003, 06:24 AM

i really do understand that the intentions on the swear filter were good. but i find it frustrating when i cannot express myself on these fourms i like so much, and i'm not talking about profanity, the forums can do without that, but in my customs text, i can't set it to "Forums Addict" why? i also noticed that a slang for homosexual is blocked out? well i think that homosexuals could find taht offincive becuase it's kind of saying that they are bad? (not that i am homosexual but i was reading a thread and it was blocked out so i though uhh what the heck?) the slang for newbi is also blocked out, why? i mean people call eachother that more In game then on the fourms so why block it when people might want to use the word ;[
arg i dunno, but the filter should be cut back a bit :[

someweirdperson · #2 04-19-2003, 06:31 AM

Also, the word for chicken is blocked out...c***

magicbud3344 · #3 04-19-2003, 06:31 AM

i'm really glad it is being reviewed :]
when i set it to fourm's addict it shows up as *****s addict :|

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Originally posted by someweirdperson
Also, the word for chicken is blocked out...c***

ha ha ha :|
i'm being seriouse in this thread ;x

Questa · #4 04-19-2003, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344
i really do understand that the intentions on the swear filter were good. but i find it frustrating when i cannot express myself on these fourms i like so much, and i'm not talking about profanity, the forums can do without that, but in my customs text, i can't set it to "Forums Addict" why? i also noticed that a slang for homosexual is blocked out? well i think that homosexuals could find taht offincive becuase it's kind of saying that they are bad? (not that i am homosexual but i was reading a thread and it was blocked out so i though uhh what the heck?) the slang for newbi is also blocked out, why? i mean people call eachother that more In game then on the fourms so why block it when people might want to use the word ;[
arg i dunno, but the filter should be cut back a bit :[

***** is blocked out too... That's a little on the 'why??' side.

zell12 · #5 04-19-2003, 06:59 AM

You ****ing street *****. Get my point? It is used for bad intention, but the swear filder should be used for profanity. Other words like newbie shouldn't be blocked out, oh, and geeeeee server shouldn't be blocked out either. The fourm admins and moderators should be checking the forums reguraly to see if people are using the context in a bad way and if so deal out punishment.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #6 04-19-2003, 08:03 AM

We're actually discussing this in the sandbox right now on what to do. Most of us agree that we need to remove some of the words on the filter, when that will be done is something different.

magicbud3344 · #7 04-19-2003, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
We're actually discussing this in the sandbox right now on what to do. Most of us agree that we need to remove some of the words on the filter, when that will be done is something different.

i'm really glad to hear that it is in disscussion

davidpsy · #8 04-19-2003, 08:27 AM

Also names of other online games are blocked out like ***. What honestly do other online game's forum's have the word graal blocked out

. Next thing you know they will be blocking words like ** OH NO THEY HAVE BLOCKED OUT IT AND *** ahhh I can't say "the"!!

Spark910 · #9 04-19-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Also names of other online games are blocked out like ***. What honestly do other online game's forum's have the word graal blocked out . Next thing you know they will be blocking words like ** OH NO THEY HAVE BLOCKED OUT IT AND *** ahhh I can't say "the"!!

Yes alot of them do have 'Graal' blocked out. And if we are going to possibly unban most of the swear words and offensive words, we aren't going to be blocking 'the'.

Neoreno · #10 04-19-2003, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344
well i think that homosexuals could find taht offincive becuase it's kind of saying that they are bad?

It's kind of a mixed thing really. On one hand it is irritating that the word has become a synonym of bad. On the other hand, it is good because people will know not to use it in a bad way... Hmm.

Judge_S · #11 04-20-2003, 03:41 AM

Swear filters are there for a reason.
If you find a word that you think shouldn't be blocked, simply use a synonym - it's not that hard. Then again, from what I've read, the filter used on these forums really needs to be checked out.

davidpsy · #12 04-20-2003, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by Spark910

Yes alot of them do have 'Graal' blocked out. And if we are going to possibly unban most of the swear words and offensive words, we aren't going to be blocking 'the'.

Maybe if we had the spell check before Graal was made it would be spelled Grail

. Also name one online game that actualy has Graal blocked out....

ETD · #13 04-20-2003, 05:14 AM

remember the discussion in the thread about war?

eventually we got to arguing over communism, and ****** (the leader of Germany in WWII), germany in WWII was under the control of the **** government
0.o'

now why is that blocked? is his name offencive? is the **** party offencive? I mean, i understand about WWII and all... but still, we were having a discussion, and it made it hard to say what we mean

zell12 · #14 04-20-2003, 06:31 AM

Yes, supermods are becomming lazy.

Mykel · #15 04-20-2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by ETD
remember the discussion in the thread about war?

eventually we got to arguing over communism, and ****** (the leader of Germany in WWII), germany in WWII was under the control of the **** government
0.o'

now why is that blocked? is his name offencive? is the **** party offencive? I mean, i understand about WWII and all... but still, we were having a discussion, and it made it hard to say what we mean

In the sandbox, i believe they said that it was because of unproper comments to Stefan and Unixmad.

Spark910 · #16 04-20-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

Maybe if we had the spell check before Graal was made it would be spelled Grail . Also name one online game that actualy has Graal blocked out....

Im not aloud to state names, as thats agains the rule. So I'll only say abreviation version: EDO.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #17 04-20-2003, 08:14 PM

Hey, I'd love to remove some of the filters but but some mods insist that we should place strict filters and suppress them on everyone just because a few nimrods on these forums like to use these words in a bad way. It's like putting a curfew on everyone just because you're got a few idiots abusing the system.

zell12 · #18 04-20-2003, 09:50 PM

Are you ignoring my replys or something? Stop being lazy and ban them yo!

magicbud3344 · #19 04-20-2003, 11:50 PM

why should we be put on a curfew so to speak when you can just put a red hot poker in the idiots eyes

Locke_boy · #20 04-23-2003, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344
i also noticed that a slang for homosexual is blocked out? well i think that homosexuals could find taht offincive becuase it's kind of saying that they are bad? (not that i am homosexual but i was reading a thread and it was blocked out so i though uhh what the heck?)

What, "***got"? .. and "***"? Well, in the way YOU people use it, I'm glad they're blocked. When you want to use them properly (a pile of sticks used for fires and a giddy mood) then be my guest.

I also find it amusing that you, right away, must state that you are NOT homosexual. Does it matter? -.-;

Locke_boy · #21 04-23-2003, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

'Graal' is not a mispellation of 'Grail'.

You, sir, are SO much less than 3.

<3

Loriel · #22 04-23-2003, 11:02 PM

Graal is the very French word for grail.

Swear filters are not good.
Few swearing is almost okay. It does not hurt anybody here, and it perhaps helps expressing anger.
If swearing is abused to harass others, or used over a certain extent of acception, this community itself can "punish" the offender by ignoring him, or valueing him less.
Someone who swears a lot just is working against him/herself, as he/she will lose respect in this community, which is far more punishing than a few asterisks.
Also I think that it is generally not a good idea to use automatical devices to make people follow the rules, in an online community. If rules cannot defend themselves, they are perhaps not worth to be held, and thus shall be made more appropriate. Also, this swear filters makes people think it is okay to swear, as it gets blocked out anyways. I think it is much better to have a moderator personally message the offender and warn them

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