They came, they saw, and they were wearing hats.

[Googi]

If you dont know what I'm talking about... then it's player humans. I'm extremely tired of the bonuses they get (Most updates, being able to wear hats, more popularity).

I'm taking a stroll around Bomboria and I see a human on the south side... And he was wearing a hat.

Hat wearing should be disabled because it gives humans an advantage of style over bomys.

[Kuza]

Bomy-bopots should get some sort of near apparel. There could be some sort of capes/cloaks to cover their shells? I don't know, it's just an idea.

Anyways, I am anti-human.

[Xeph0ria]

I have an idea.
Customizable Shells. Wait it's not what you think, let me explain. I know there is a size issue.
Since changing a bomys shell is essentially changing the bomy itself, all a shell would be is a bomy skin. (You know, if you put a pirat shell on you would look like Pirat 0. In all respects, you would be)
But there would be some skins that were only available through having its shell.
But, wait, I'm not done.
You could buy defensive shells that lessen damage done to you, or offensive ones that increase damage you do. Or one that increases your max hp. Or one that increases your speed. Or one that lets you move slower in water.
Different shells have different attributes.

This is just an idea, and I think someone could take this and work it into something much better.

[Griffyn]

Googi, you're a baby.

[brock128]

Originally posted by Griffyn
Googi, you're a baby.

No, he's making fun of a stupid post. +5 points to googi for MAKING FUN OF HUMANS!

[Googi]

Originally posted by brock128
No, he's making fun of a stupid post. +5 points to googi for MAKING FUN OF HUMANS!

Actually, I think Gryffon knows that, and I think he's saying that me doing so is childish. Which is correct, but I knew it was childish before I posted it anyways.

[Griffyn]

Originally posted by Googi


Actually, I think Gryffon knows that, and I think he's saying that me doing so is childish. Which is correct, but I knew it was childish before I posted it anyways.

Actually I had no idea, I thought you were serious o_O.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Griffyn

Actually I had no idea, I thought you were serious o_O.

Didn't you notice that it was extremely similar to Zurk's post?

[Neoreno]

I didn't even notice it at first.

[Dude6252000]

I noticed it O_o And bomys wear hats on my screen, it looks fine, but there's some small bomys that look terrible with hats

[draygin]

Originally posted by Xeph0ria
I have an idea.
Customizable Shells. Wait it's not what you think, let me explain. I know there is a size issue.
Since changing a bomys shell is essentially changing the bomy itself, all a shell would be is a bomy skin. (You know, if you put a pirat shell on you would look like Pirat 0. In all respects, you would be)
But there would be some skins that were only available through having its shell.
But, wait, I'm not done.
You could buy defensive shells that lessen damage done to you, or offensive ones that increase damage you do. Or one that increases your max hp. Or one that increases your speed. Or one that lets you move slower in water.
Different shells have different attributes.

This is just an idea, and I think someone could take this and work it into something much better.

Why is it so many people think giving a bomy even more strength or defensive powers means balancing the class? The two are totally unrelated issues. You can not over power one to balance another. Bomies need to be lessoned in the physical attack departments and severly upgraded in the things they can do/wear. Every one cries about what bomies cant do. But every one decides to ignore what they can do.
How many water falls can a human run up? If I'm not mistaken where is the only place to get healing water? What is the only way to get to it?
People say omg they slow on land. How fast are they in water?

They cant wear hats! Yes this is a valid issue and something compariable needs to be created. But if I'm not mistaken dont bomies have along of games? I've seen alot of things only bomies can used but never used them aside from the anchor.

Bomies have like no jobs! Bomies have two jobs that I know of pearls/bird catching. Pearls taking no effort at all or cost to doing it. Not to mention the best paying job there is. So yes if you want more jobs then they should be jobs that are equivelant to bread making or fishing in which you get almost no money for doing them. Not all that bad I myself enjoy fishing and do it quite often even though the pay really really sucks. (why not just make a gani for bomies holding a fishing pole? Or something of that nature)
lets list it. (feel free to add something if I've missed it)
Bomies-
Pros:
Bomies are super strong.
Have alot of health.
Unlimited hiding undershells.
Rapid attacks.
Super fast on water.
Can move up water falls.+giving access to healing water
Best paying job that requires no D smashing or money to do.
Get bomy only quests
Bomy only toys
Can hurt people from all 4 sides (unless I"m mistaken on when the entire bomy lights up when attacking?)

Cons: Lacking hats
Few jobs (countered by having thel best paying and easiest to do)
Slow on land (countered by bein very fast in water)

Humans-
Pros:
Fast on land
Hats
fairly decent selection of jobs.

Cons.
Weakest race
Nothing to hide under
Most jobs dont pay well the one that does costs money to do. Plus much more money to get better tools to do the job and not have to constantly buy new tools when they break.
No human only quests.
Delayed attacks
Can only hurt people from side they are facing.(possibly moot if the same for bomies)

As I see it the race with the most advantages is in fact the bomies. So they dont get some dumb hats that do absolutly nothing for you aside from looks.

So how could we even these out fairly nice? Give more bomy jobs that take alot of D smashing and yielding next to no money. 10g for 1 hour 30 minutes about the same as fishing. Also one that requires loads of d smashing and your tools break.

Give them something similar to hats. Maybe bomy boots I dunno.

Take away super powers. (attack unlimited hiding etc..)

Those three things right there would balance everything out no?
Personally the only part of those three that I think would be difficult to do is the hat problem. So maybe give bomies something totally new. Maybe some kind of cool lighting display? Like they when they run a trail of light goes behind them. They can buy different colors. Mixtures of colors heck even lights that do patterns and what not. (Just a possibility)

As it is I'm really tempted to switch to bomies with all the advantages. But I really hate not having my sword. Sentimental value I guess. ;x

[brock128]

Originally posted by draygin
Bomies-
Pros:
Bomies are super strong.
(Yes)
Have alot of health.
(Yes)
Unlimited hiding undershells.
(Yes, but that's really to HIDE AWAY FROM PKS! ONOS YOU CAN'T PK BOMIES SO SAD D
Rapid attacks.
(No. This is classified under "Super Strong")
Super fast on water.
(And very reckless. It's hard to navigate. No)
Can move up water falls.+giving access to healing water
(Yes for waterfalls, no for healing water. There's a cave humans can get to, if you pay, for the healing water)
Best paying job that requires no D smashing or money to do.
(Yes.)
Get bomy only quests
(Humans get human-only quests. No.)
Bomy only toys
(What? Hacky sacks? Humans get those too. No.)
Can hurt people from all 4 sides (unless I"m mistaken on when the entire bomy lights up when attacking?)
(You're mistaken.)

Cons:
Lacking hats
(YESYESYES)
Few jobs (countered by having thel best paying and easiest to do)
(Mining, although boring, is comparable. No counter.)
Slow on land (countered by bein very fast in water)
(And being very reckless. No counter.)

My additions...
Being hated by Humans for no reason.
INABLILITY TO WALK DIAGONALLY
No updates

Humans-
Pros:
Fast on land
(Yes)
Hats
(Yes)
fairly decent selection of jobs.
(Yes)

Additions:
Ability to walk diagonally
No hatred
Plenty of updates

Cons.
Weakest race
(You can't use -est without 3 or more things that are being compared. You can say weaker.)
Nothing to hide under
(Pause. No.)
Most jobs dont pay well the one that does costs money to do.
(At least you HAVE jobs. And as for the one that costs money to do, tough.)
Plus much more money to get better tools to do the job and not have to constantly buy new tools when they break.
(Diamond axe. ONOS)
No human only quests.
(HELLO STEFAN QUEST OMG)
Delayed attacks
(What)
Can only hurt people from side they are facing.(possibly moot if the same for bomies)
(Moot.)

And there you have it. From the mouth of a bomy.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by brock128
post

You are incorrect...
Rapid Attaack and Super Strenght have NOTHING in common.

It is not hard to navigate with a bomy... I've done it plenty of times. Very rarely you'll hit a wall or something. If you come on here and say "It's hard to naviagate with a bomy" then you just suck.

I saw that you put Hatred - No under Humans. When all we do is walk around and the bomies go "HUMANS SUXZORZ"... And it's always a bomy leading these 'race' wars.

And yes, the Bomies dont need more jobs... it takes us an hour to get what the bomies get in a minute.

You also stated Pausing... There is a thing on 2k1 we like to call RPing in which it disables you from pausing, yet bomies can still hide. And if you give a baby some candy and tell them not to eat it... what will they do?

And walking diganglally is probally because it would generate MORE lag. Plus it's not like you need it... we Humans hardly ever use it.

And read Karsh's post... Hats dont even work for Humans... much less the for the bomies. And yet again... if you want something to be done with your style, go make it yourself. We cant balance the bomies out because we dont have the power to.

[Googi]

Originally posted by draygin
If I'm not mistaken where is the only place to get healing water?

Which reminds me, Rabid gave me the food basket script (I think), I should try to see if I can fix the bug where bomys can't heal with healing water.

[Brad]

Originally posted by Googi


Which reminds me, Rabid gave me the food basket script (I think), I should try to see if I can fix the bug where bomys can't heal with healing water.

Try to. I couldn't earlier. x-x

[Googi]

Originally posted by Brad


Try to. I couldn't earlier. x-x

I think I got it fixed, but probably not.

[brock128]

You are incorrect...
Rapid Attaack and Super Strenght have NOTHING in common.
(You could squish them together to say "better attack")

It is not hard to navigate with a bomy... I've done it plenty of times. Very rarely you'll hit a wall or something. If you come on here and say "It's hard to naviagate with a bomy" then you just suck.
(I'd like to see you navigate tight quarters.)

I saw that you put Hatred - No under Humans. When all we do is walk around and the bomies go "HUMANS SUXZORZ"... And it's always a bomy leading these 'race' wars.
(Humans started it. The bomies are fighting back now. If humans didn't beat up bomies, there would probabally be no rebels.)

And yes, the Bomies dont need more jobs... it takes us an hour to get what the bomies get in a minute.
(Untill you get to hat collecting. Woosh, the money goes up.)

You also stated Pausing... There is a thing on 2k1 we like to call RPing in which it disables you from pausing, yet bomies can still hide. And if you give a baby some candy and tell them not to eat it... what will they do?
(So bomies can't be PKed. As long as the RPer doesn't abuse it, it's fine. If they abuse it, then they're bad RPers.)

And walking diganglally is probally because it would generate MORE lag. Plus it's not like you need it... we Humans hardly ever use it.
(Aw, the poor little 56ker. And humans use it a lot more then you think.)

And read Karsh's post... Hats dont even work for Humans... much less the for the bomies. And yet again... if you want something to be done with your style, go make it yourself. We cant balance the bomies out because we dont have the power to.
(Hat's don't even work for humans? How do you figure? They wear them. What doesn't work? And I'm sorry, but I'm not mister l33t scripter. And I'm STILL WAITING FOR NECKLACE MAKING TO BE UPLOADED. As for your last sentence, I want a little bit of balance. I think bomies are more suited toward defence. But who's side are you on anyway?)

[MrCharles]

Just sum it up. Bomies shouldnt have such a fighting advantage.
Humans shouldnt have such an economic advantage. So the staff should even it out.

[draygin]

Originally posted by MrCharles
Just sum it up. Bomies shouldnt have such a fighting advantage.
Humans shouldnt have such an economic advantage. So the staff should even it out.

That was my whole point. Except we dont have the economic advantage bomies have that as well. We just have a wider variety of jobs to choose from. Which is why we should make 2-3 more bomy only jobs that pay you 10g for an hour and a half of work and the job also involves lots of d smashing and something compairable to hats.

Really the only two important ones are weaken bomies and give them hats.

Also to the person who said squish them together to say better attacks. You could also squish everything together to and just say better race as one pro.

[Zurkiba]

Rapid Attack = Being able to attack many times in a short ammount of time

Strong Attack = Being able to do more damage than your opposite in one strike


RAPID AND STRONG DO NOT MIX...
---
Close Quaters... as I said, you rarly hit into those...
Graal has a major highway for Bomies... it's called The Bomboria River. And to improve on your land speed... use Distrains or what ever they're called.
---
Humans started it? A bit immature are we?
OMG DEY STARTED IT SO LETS KEEP DOING IT K?

Which makes you look better? Bomies who go "OMG LEZ KILL DEM CUZ A NEWBIE SEYS "I H8 U""... or
"Lets just forget it"
---
And I'm sorry... but it's just stupid to say that we have pausing and they have shelling... Because they have pausing too. "Oh well we should just tell them they cant use it during RPs"... Because I believe it was you who went "((OOC DONT ATTACK))" then you ran for your little door, showing that people wont listen to the "Dont shell because it's bad RPing" rule.
---
One Question for you:
What is stopping bomies from buying and selling hats?, so your arguement is now void... and now since Bomies like to stereotype Humans... I guess I should stereotype bomies... Therefore all bomies dont want to wear hats because they dont know what the hell they're talking about. Brad owns some hats... and he sells them, so what's stopping you?
---
56ker? No I doubt it... I'm running off a Cable/DSL modem and I never lag untill it comes to bomies.
---
No... The hats are usally distorted on Humans... so why would it work for the odd shape of the shells? Your arguements are kind of pointless =x...

[brock128]

Rapid Attack = Being able to attack many times in a short ammount of time

Strong Attack = Being able to do more damage than your opposite in one strike

RAPID AND STRONG DO NOT MIX...

(Am I disagreeing with you?)
---
Close Quaters... as I said, you rarly hit into those...
Graal has a major highway for Bomies... it's called The Bomboria River. And to improve on your land speed... use Distrains or what ever they're called.

(Drastines. And yes, those are handy. But there's a lot of times when you're NOT ON THE DRASTINE. Sure, you can get from general point A to general point B fast, but to get from fine point A to fine point B is slow.)
---
Humans started it? A bit immature are we?
OMG DEY STARTED IT SO LETS KEEP DOING IT K?

Which makes you look better? Bomies who go "OMG LEZ KILL DEM CUZ A NEWBIE SEYS "I H8 U""... or
"Lets just forget it"

(I'm not pointing fingers. I'm stating a fact. Way back when, people just hated bomies for no reason. Even before they had the huge power boost. And Bomies are really calming down, except for a certain fanatic who wants a shrine dedicated to him for starting the bomy revolution [You know who you are,] we're pretty peaceful now.)
---
And I'm sorry... but it's just stupid to say that we have pausing and they have shelling... Because they have pausing too. "Oh well we should just tell them they cant use it during RPs"... Because I believe it was you who went "((OOC DONT ATTACK))" then you ran for your little door, showing that people wont listen to the "Dont shell because it's bad RPing" rule.

(I told you, I fell out by accident, and I needed to get back to my spot. If I were outside the castle to begin with, then I wouldn't have said that.)
---
One Question for you:
What is stopping bomies from buying and selling hats?, so your arguement is now void... and now since Bomies like to stereotype Humans... I guess I should stereotype bomies... Therefore all bomies dont want to wear hats because they dont know what the hell they're talking about. Brad owns some hats... and he sells them, so what's stopping you?

(Uh, why buy somthing you can't use? You have a point, but... blah *shuts up*)
---
56ker? No I doubt it... I'm running off a Cable/DSL modem and I never lag untill it comes to bomies.
(Then figure out what graphic you're missing, or get a better ISP. Because I'm fine.)
---
No... The hats are usally distorted on Humans... so why would it work for the odd shape of the shells? Your arguements are kind of pointless =x...
(They are? I didn't really notice. Except for those stupid masks, which bomies couldn't wear. So that's valid.)

[Googi]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
One Question for you:
What is stopping bomies from buying and selling hats?, so your arguement is now void... and now since Bomies like to stereotype Humans... I guess I should stereotype bomies... Therefore all bomies dont want to wear hats because they dont know what the hell they're talking about. Brad owns some hats... and he sells them, so what's stopping you?

Bomys can buy and sell hats. And Bomys do. However, bomys can't wear hats. So all they can do with them is buy and sell them.

[magicbud3344]

Bomy side
-Way Strong attack
-Rapid attack
-Awsome controle in water
-Pearl diving makes most money + youd on't have to buy supplies for it

Human side
-Wear Hats

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Googi


Bomys can buy and sell hats. And Bomys do. However, bomys can't wear hats. So all they can do with them is buy and sell them.

Go get your bomy's GFX and pick out a random hat... put it 2-4 pixils down on your shell and tell me how it looks.

Saying that bomies need hats means that you'd have to make new hats for every 'race' (dice, nafets, etc) because every single one of those bomies are differnt. Then you would need to make ganis for every single one of them.

You dont realise how much work there would have to be just to produce the hat-wearing bomy. And even if you did... the hat industry would be screwed up.

Bomies dont need hats, nor will they get them. I've stated why above. So please stop going "BOMUIES WUNT HATS K?"... because it is impossible. We are here to simpily protest the bomy's ability to gain money very easily and their ability to kill Humans even at half-health.

The only way bomies can wear hats... is if you make the bomy's GFX have an altared hat on it.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

Go get your bomy's GFX and pick out a random hat... put it 2-4 pixils down on your shell and tell me how it looks.

Saying that bomies need hats means that you'd have to make new hats for every 'race' (dice, nafets, etc) because every single one of those bomies are differnt. Then you would need to make ganis for every single one of them.

You dont realise how much work there would have to be just to produce the hat-wearing bomy. And even if you did... the hat industry would be screwed up.

Bomies dont need hats, nor will they get them. I've stated why above. So please stop going "BOMUIES WUNT HATS K?"... because it is impossible. We are here to simpily protest the bomy's ability to gain money very easily and their ability to kill Humans even at half-health.

The only way bomies can wear hats... is if you make the bomy's GFX have an altared hat on it.

Exactly, bomys can't wear hats. So stop complaining about what we CAN do.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Googi


Exactly, bomys can't wear hats. So stop complaining about what we CAN do.

I swear to God -_-
And you call me stupid.

What the **** is the point of this post then? Spam? I believe so.
Because bomies just want to wear hats, I've explained why and now you say "Oh it's because we dont want to wear hats".

And we're saying that it isn't balance if Bomies get the economical upperhand and the battle upperhand. While Humans get Hats. You people just want the ADVANTAGE on yourselves. You know that with your ADVANTAGE you can do what you wish and where you wish to do it. It gives you power and money, and you're too greedy to do admit to anything that is wrong with it.

[brock128]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Post

Higher ups are heavily hinting bomies can wear hats in the future. So please, shut up

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by brock128

Higher ups are heavily hinting bomies can wear hats in the future. So please, shut up

Yet again... you'd need to make a hat for every bomy 'race' and it would screw up the economy...

Unless you would rather your style to look like crap

So please shut up

[AlexH]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

Yet again... you'd need to make a hat for every bomy 'race' and it would screw up the economy...

How so?
Bomies can already buy and sell hats so I don't really see how allowing them to wear them would mess with the econemy any further.

Although I do agree that some hats would look rather silly on some bomies.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by AlexH


How so?
Bomies can already buy and sell hats so I don't really see how allowing them to wear them would mess with the econemy any further.

Although I do agree that some hats would look rather silly on some bomies.

If you make hats just for bomies, and those get mixed in with the human hats... then there will be 10,000 hats and it would get confusing.

[AlexH]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

If you make hats just for bomies, and those get mixed in with the human hats... then there will be 10,000 hats and it would get confusing.

Making hats for certain bomies would be a complete waste of time.
I really hope that doesn't happen.
Just having something different that they can trade and have attached to them (probally dragging behind them in some sort of kart like a little toy) so it can be easily seen.
Then bomies can't really complain about hats.

[Kaiser2]

No one mentioned that bomies get an hp boost...chances are, a wounded bomy has more hp than a human...I mean, even a newb who started as a bomy has more hp than a veteran human who has done all the quests.

Also, the only reason Googi wants hats is to wear more pink things x.x

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by AlexH


Making hats for certain bomies would be a complete waste of time.
I really hope that doesn't happen.
Just having something different that they can trade and have attached to them (probally dragging behind them in some sort of kart like a little toy) so it can be easily seen.
Then bomies can't really complain about hats.

I like your idea XD

But if Bomies have hats then it'll just be walking hats. So why dont we just destroy the race of Bomy and add Hat on there?

[AlexH]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

I like your idea XD

But if Bomies have hats then it'll just be walking hats. So why dont we just destroy the race of Bomy and add Hat on there?

No I didn't mean put the hats in the cart.
I meant like decroatives could be put in the cart or some things with wheels could just drag behind it.
Kinda like the little carts you see children pulling about with toys in it.
You could get different things to put in it like dolls etc.

[brock128]

Yea. Alex has a good idea, people.

[funnylinkwantsbomys]

Originally posted by MrCharles
Just sum it up. Bomies shouldnt have such a fighting advantage.
Humans shouldnt have such an economic advantage. So the staff should even it out.

normally animals shouldn't make more money than humans....animals are stronger and have better noses ect ect

[FFXRikku]

Originally posted by AlexH


No I didn't mean put the hats in the cart.
I meant like decroatives could be put in the cart or some things with whells could just drag behind it.
Kinda like the little carts you see children pulling about with toys in it.
You could get different things to put in it like dolls etc.

Yeah, I like that idea.