They came, they saw, they lagged us all to death.

Zurkiba · #1 02-21-2003, 12:00 AM

If you dont know what I'm talking about... then it's player bomies. I'm extremely tired of the bonuses they get (Higher Attack, More HP, Indestructable Shell, Rapid attack, etc) and they lag.

I'm taking a stroll around Bomboria and I see a bomy on the south side... I'm on the north side and for some reason I'm half dead and the bomy comes behind me. It's not the connection... it's just the laggy scripts.

Sure sometimes it's in close range too... Like in the admin house... You're fighting a bomy and he sits there for a second... next thing you know you're hit ten times and the bomy moved an inch.

AlexH · #2 02-21-2003, 12:05 AM

I agree with the bomy shell thing.
That should definetly be changed.
If anything a time limit should be put on it so they should still recieve damage but maybe only half damage.

Well there is a quest that was being made (long time back when me and kamuii were managers) that was originally for level 2 sword for humans but it didnt't get finished. I know it's being worked on. Not sure how much is left to be done though.
So that will even the attack thing out.

And the HP would kinda be evened out with humans having higher attack and alsothey are faster which makes it easier to escape our attacks. Although it's still difficult.

MilkyWay0016 · #3 02-21-2003, 12:12 AM

I think that until bomys get more things to do they should stay the way they are.

Maybe I'll agree they need to be taken away, but then bomys wouldn't have _anything_ besides about 2 jobs.

One thing that could be done is make it so only bomys can get clear water again

AlexH · #4 02-21-2003, 12:23 AM

Only getting clear water sucks.
It's not like it is used to much.
The thing bomies need is something like hats.
Although it would have to be something that follows behind the bomy attached somehow as they differ in shape and size so nothing could be put on them.

MilkyWay0016 · #5 02-21-2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH
Only getting clear water sucks.
It's not like it is used to much.
The thing bomies need is something like hats.
Although it would have to be something that follows behind the bomy attached somehow as they differ in shape and size so nothing could be put on them.

Yes, Agreed, but everyone seems to enjoy whining that no one gives them ideas to make for bomys and I just gave an easy one

Googi · #6 02-21-2003, 12:38 AM

Great, so since bomys are so superior to you, why don't you go morph?

Zurkiba · #7 02-21-2003, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Googi
Great, so since bomys are so superior to you, why don't you go morph?

Because the server would be 100% Bomy...
I'm not here to gain the advantage for me... it's to balance the server.

Googi · #8 02-21-2003, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba
Because the server would be 100% Bomy...

So?

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Originally posted by Zurkiba
I'm not here to gain the advantage for me... it's to balance the server.

There is a balance.

Bomys have a combat and economic advantage.

Humans have hats, more weapons and more frequent updates.

MilkyWay0016 · #9 02-21-2003, 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by Googi

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Bomys have a [...] economic advantage.

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Bomys hardly have one now. They have less jobs then humans, I don't think they can even craft, and not to mention the fact that now you need 5 white pearls for 1g. I don't see that as an economic advantage.

And another thing, why does an economic advantage matter if they don't even have any new things to buy?

--Chris-- · #10 02-21-2003, 06:40 AM

The shell thing isn't that bad =/ It's like pausing.
They have rapid jump so they fall into water easily (bad for survivor) they are alot slower and can only walk 4 directions...They got their own disadvantages...chill out. I say leave 'em as is

Googi · #11 02-21-2003, 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by MilkyWay0016
and not to mention the fact that now you need 5 white pearls for 1g. I don't see that as an economic advantage.

Yeah, but you can also get 1g for 2 black pearls, and 1g for 1 pink pearl.

Pearl Diving makes more money than any other job on Bomy Moon, except I suppose the possibility of PKing. But Bomys are probably better at that too.

MrCharles · #12 02-21-2003, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by Googi

But Bomys are probably better at that too.

No. If a bomy comes up to me and starts hitting me i just start making them spin into the water. :O

draygin · #13 02-21-2003, 09:29 AM

Bomies do 15 damage for 1 hit. Bomies have 140 more hp unless you pay 200g to morph into a bomy and morph back then you have about a 100 more. Not to mention the no time out in a bomies attack can cause a player to freeze and not be able to move. I dont mind the higher hp bonus but the attack power should be equal or slightly less for it. There should also be a time limit of 5-10 seconds on hiding in the shell.

Also going omg its balanced we got 1 jobors and no hats. Is ridiculous giving one race vastly superrior fighting abilities is not balancing. Balancing means making more jobs and either an alternative to hats or hats that they can wear (Ive heard thats being done.) Also isnt there something like bird catching which is only for bomies?

brock128 · #14 02-21-2003, 03:32 PM

Guess what? Bomies can't wear hats. Bomies can't mine. Bomies are for some reason hated by people who attempt to RP but haven't even considered it. BOMIES JUST WANT LOVE.

Higher Attack - You're right on this one. I think bomies are better for defence.

More HP - Crybaby.

Indestructable Shell - OMG YOU CAN'T PK BOMIES SO SAD

Rapid Attack - See "Higher attack"

Lag - It's just you. I never lag with bomies.

Bomies can't walk very well, they're generally treated like poop (And they still are after the BOMY REVOLUTION.)
I think another revolution is in order, unless we get to wear freaking hats.

As for "lack of ideas," Necklace making hasn't been uploaded. It's been sitting ready for HOW LONG NOW GOOGI >_>?

Tseng · #15 02-21-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by AlexH
Only getting clear water sucks.
It's not like it is used to much.
The thing bomies need is something like hats.
Although it would have to be something that follows behind the bomy attached somehow as they differ in shape and size so nothing could be put on them.

Hey, I said we should implement Antago's system of having bomy "shoes" for each race (each race has their own set of shoes they can pick from).

Jeff said that "bomys are fine the way they are" and threw in a "Managerial Veto" or two, just for kicks.

Zurkiba · #16 02-21-2003, 05:20 PM

It's not just me... if the players dont lag for me then the bomies shouldn't lag.

No, the Shell isn't like pause. If it's like pause then nearly all of the bomies in RP events would be jailed for abusing the ability to take no damage.

And I think it's fair for us to come on here and say some things wrong with the bomies, if you can come on here and say things that are wrong with the humans.

And I agree with dray. Sure the bomies should have a SMALL edge over humans in fighting. But not a major one like it has now.

MrCharles · #17 02-21-2003, 05:47 PM

Bomys do more damage?!

They should really not have more hp and the shell though. :/

Neoreno · #18 02-21-2003, 06:58 PM

Bomies that go into the shell should take no damage from punches, bamboo, knife, but should take half damage from swords.

Larrien · #19 02-21-2003, 07:40 PM

I believe the reason that the bomies have combative advantage is because of all the complaining certain people do on their situation.

I like bomies the way they are.

I understand most of the gripes against their combative advantage, but remember, they used to have a larger economic advantage on humans, too. No one side will ever be happy. Bomy players complain because they don't get many frequent "body" or "player" updates-- updates centralized around the way bomies work. The reason is because the administration has done all they can save for making them human. I applaud the administration for making us as equal as possible. There are some points I think must be addressed, but it's a nice balance of bomy and human for now.

brock128 · #20 02-21-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Neoreno
Bomies that go into the shell should take no damage from punches, bamboo, knife, but should take half damage from swords.

That's a good idea.

AlexH · #21 02-21-2003, 08:00 PM

The only thing that should be changed about bomies is the shell.
It should either have a time limit or it should just make it do half damage.

draygin · #22 02-21-2003, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by brock128
Guess what? Bomies can't wear hats. Bomies can't mine. Bomies are for some reason hated by people who attempt to RP but haven't even considered it. BOMIES JUST WANT LOVE.

Higher Attack - You're right on this one. I think bomies are better for defence.

More HP - Crybaby.

Indestructable Shell - OMG YOU CAN'T PK BOMIES SO SAD

Rapid Attack - See "Higher attack"

Lag - It's just you. I never lag with bomies.

Bomies can't walk very well, they're generally treated like poop (And they still are after the BOMY REVOLUTION.)
I think another revolution is in order, unless we get to wear freaking hats.

As for "lack of ideas," Necklace making hasn't been uploaded. It's been sitting ready for HOW LONG NOW GOOGI >_>?

Do you realize how stupid and chilish you sound? I mean come on using crybaby as an insult to people? If you had bothered to read my post all of your points where addressed in it. Humans having more jobs is not balancing it by giving bomies butloads of more attack powers. It would be ignorant for any one to consider it to be. As I previously stated they need to make more jobs for bomies and make hats wearable or something compairable to hats. Which I"ve heard is already being done (just a rumour) No one has a problem with bomies being slightly stronger.
But we do have a problem with them being graalian tanks running around practically unkillable. More health I think they should keep. Heck even the attack power isnt to bad. As lon as they put a very small time out in the attack and a time limit in the hiding in the shell. Especially considering all a bomy has to do is manage to tap the attack key over and over which often times causes the player to freeze and not be able to move. But really if you cant come up with valid points please dont make a complete idiot to your self by using name calling as a point on why bomies should keep there powers.

brock128 · #23 02-22-2003, 01:05 AM

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Does anybody even read this part?
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ONO I CALLED SOMBODY A CRYBABY END OF TEH WURLD D:
If YOU read MY post, I agreed with the attack being high, and the rapid attack, and if you read my second post, then I agreed that maybe indestructable is too strong for the shell. Here's a flowchart, originally created by Kai, and remade by me.

Read -> Think -> Post

Googi · #24 02-22-2003, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by brock128
Read -> Think -> Post

Umm...how did you remake that?

brock128 · #25 02-22-2003, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by Googi

Umm...how did you remake that?

I added Read ->.

Googi · #26 02-22-2003, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by brock128

I added Read ->.

Actually, that was part of the origional one.

draygin · #27 02-22-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by brock128

ONO I CALLED SOMBODY A CRYBABY END OF TEH WURLD D:
If YOU read MY post, I agreed with the attack being high, and the rapid attack, and if you read my second post, then I agreed that maybe indestructable is too strong for the shell. Here's a flowchart, originally created by Kai, and remade by me.

Read -> Think -> Post

You should really heed your own advice.

It's not a matter of it being the end of the world more along the lines of it makes you look like a complete idiot not to mention and immature little kid. Calling some one a cry baby doesnt help anything aside from making people look stupid. Something you seem to do on a daily basis.

brock128 · #28 02-22-2003, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Googi

Actually, that was part of the origional one.

Really? Okay, nevermind then.

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Originally posted by draygin

You should really heed your own advice.

It's not a matter of it being the end of the world more along the lines of it makes you look like a complete idiot not to mention and immature little kid. Calling some one a cry baby doesnt help anything aside from making people look stupid. Something you seem to do on a daily basis.

He's whining about a stupid thing. Thus, a crybaby. Anyway, if you'd just shut up, then this would be over, okay?