Could a reset solve kingdoms problems?

[Ghost Pirate]

I mean look at what it did with Graal Bomy Moon. It more than doubled its playercount within a day. Of course stefan would need to release and protect the natural RP enviroment, like removing ETs and replacing them with professional RPers who can make weekly RP events which everybody who survives wins something(Like StatUps and EXPBonus). Major changes needs to be done in the gameplay department, need to keep players active and occupied.

[magicbud3344]

i say yes, but don't do it till everything is added and such

[MasterNuke]

Now? no... there is no long lasting excitement at the moment... and there are alot of "gap of boredom"s...

[draco5432]

But then again you got these people that are like

"Omg if we have a server reset i'll quit, it took me forever to get this stuff."

Well i say thats to bad, its not fair to the lower level people because they will NEVER get stuff because all these high level people win and get everything.

Im all for a server reset.

[Ghost Pirate]

Originally posted by draco5432
But then again you got these people that are like

"Omg if we have a server reset i'll quit, it took me forever to get this stuff."

Well i say thats to bad, its not fair to the lower level people because they will NEVER get stuff because all these high level people win and get everything.

Im all for a server reset.

people said that about bomy moon, but more people are playing now. Go figure eh?

[MasterNuke]

Thats because Kingdoms lacks:
1. Balance
2. Stuff to do
3. Completion

When all these exist... then reset is worth it... right now a reset will just bring a repeation of before....

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

I agree with Ed

Even if you reset Graal Kingdoms then it will still be the basic thing. Kill baddies. get more levels. Be stronger.

No one cares at all about role-playing. All they want to do is be the best and until they are they refuse to role-play and will only fight in dungeons and such.

Besides even if a whole bunch of role-players from Bomy moon decided to go role-play on Graal kingdoms, they can't because they're just going to get torn up into peices by the powerhouse players.

[Selzar]

Kingdoms needs QUESTS...
... ... ...
and alot more things fixed.

Yes a reset would be good but NOT now.

Alot of flaws in the game at the moment.
And I don't wanna go playing the same **** with a million bugs.

[zell12]

I say you should delete all the items and exp gotten through random alchemy, and the special event items. Then fix the leveling system, and make exp loss and item loss less hurtful.

[neomaximus2k2]

Originally posted by zell12
I say you should delete all the items and exp gotten through random alchemy, and the special event items. Then fix the leveling system, and make exp loss and item loss less hurtful.

I agree.

as for the resetiung everyone knows that graal will be reset eventually,
reset when most of the bugs are cleared and it shjould be a better environment

[brock128]

Originally posted by MasterNuke
Thats because Kingdoms lacks:
1. Balance
2. Stuff to do
3. Completion

When all these exist... then reset is worth it... right now a reset will just bring a repeation of before....

[graaliholic]

I say reset, all this mass level gaining and super-godly items from events and alchemy are ruining it totally, plus all the people wh got many IWD what money was still around too much, etc. Sure the power gamers won't like it, but if they get that mad they can go play GBM and leave the RPers to RP. Also houses and everything would have to be gone, otherwise people might "cheat" and keep their items.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by zell12
I say you should delete all the items and exp gotten through random alchemy, and the special event items. Then fix the leveling system, and make exp loss and item loss less hurtful.

So in other words, make a totally new server? it would be much more feasable.

[zell12]

Random alchemy was never meant to happen, and anyone using it should of lost their items. There was also that letter bug, and the bug where you could sell things for more money then you bought them. And also the godly items gotten from events

[Discharge]

No-no, even if we do reset were all going to be working ourselves up to godly levels and lose track of role playing. I mean come on, I thought this game was going to be about role playing in our kingdoms, not hacking and slashing bunnies. We might as we be playing Diablo or something with the hacking and slashing for hours. So, is there really a need for so many levels? Why can't we just have a very small number of levels that you can achieve so nobody is too far from reach of being defeated. Everything else would pretty much remain the same, this would allow a variation in strength and weakness for each players of the same level. In addition, with only a very small limited level range...lets say 1-4, we can have fair battles and there won’t be just one guy mopping up everyone. This is the key gentlemen, if you remember G2k1, we didn’t have all these crazy levels, we were all pretty much equal. This was the success of role playing, we didn’t spent so much time adding more health points but we cared more about role playing.
Look at the guy below me in my signature, I was telling the fella to the left of me in the chair how we Paladins are good in nature and also there to defend the weak. The bastard in the right comes in and tells me to “s-t-f-u” and starts swinging at me for no reason. I can’t even scratch him because of his L19 or whatever power....these type of people are important not because of their role playing but their high level. They throw off role playing badly.

[zell12]

Tried to explain this before, but people thought of me as trying to "hog" the title or be the only one. Sad how they do not see.

[neomaximus2k2]

Originally posted by zell12
Tried to explain this before, but people thought of me as trying to "hog" the title or be the only one. Sad how they do not see.

TITLE HOGGER LoL :P

[Locke_boy]

I think levels should be left as is. Look, there ARE good people at high levels (Hello!). I'm level ten now, and I'm actually pretty strong (max HP of 110 with buff) for a priest. What the Kingdoms need to do is keep this high level jerks out of their kingdoms .. and people who are not so arrogant and of high level in them. If I were in a war, I know for a fact I could tear through anyone level five or below. .. but I wouldn't. I'd give them a chance, I'd RP a war, I wouldn't RP a slaughter. People with very high levels and RPing skills are the only ones that should be in the kingdoms! These high level ignoramuses should not be in kingdoms IN THE FIRST PLACE! Keep them out, and your problem is solved. Let them stay in battle mode killing fools .. but keep them away from Kingdom RPing.

[Shrimp Okonomiyaki]

You know a lot of these comments really hurt me.
I do NOT kill people for fun, I never start fights with people, I am all pro for removing alchemy items, I rarely use foul language, I've always done good RPing or at least tried to, I give people money or items if I can see they need it, I let people barrow my Int boosters all the time, I help beginners level if they ask me in a dungeon.

And yet I feel like I always get lumped into "the high level ignoramuses" as Locke put it, which isn't fair. Just because I'm a "power gamer" doesn't mean Im going to make a big stink over this reset, I don't mind at all, I really don't. What I don't like about this thread are a lot of the blind insults and false beliefs. First thing, if everyone was reset, do you think that everyone will be equal? Yeah maybe for 10 minutes, there will always be people who work harder then others. Another belief that makes me sick to my stomach is that "equality means better RPing", you know what makes better RPing? Good RPers, all the bad RPers aren't all the high level people (although I can't say most of them are good ~_~), its everyone. I remember a lot about 2001 and you know what, 2002 is no different. Theres always a few people RPing, and a bunch just being idiots.

Kingdoms is just different because it tries to bring about a sense of individuality in RP. On Bomy Moon when you were a Mage in a kingdom, you shot fireballs, and if you were a Zormite mage, well you were screwed, Archers shot arrows, and everyone else used the sword. Kingdoms tries to take control of a lot of imaginative aspects and make them reality, by giving you diverse spells and a variety of weapons. Also by giving classes strengths and weaknesses, where it wouldn't be conventional for a Barb to be using magic nor a Sorc to be using a battle axe. Its going to be natural that the one that trains more will be stronger, or the richest will have the best equipment.

Both servers need to take a lesson from Valikoria and have a Manditory RP Rule, at least for being in a kingdom. A good thing to implement is once you put on your kingdom tag you automatically get put in kingdom mode. Prevent non Kingdom-Oriented people from going to any of the kingdom islands. Get all the kingdoms to require an RP test. And Kingdom leaders, start cracking down on bad RPer's already, be strict, if they are really loyal to your kingdom then they will straighten out, otherwise boot them.

[konidias]

High level players shouldn't be penalized for being so strong. That's ridiculous. You don't see them disqualifying guys in the Strong Man competition because they are "too strong".

The whole point of leveling is to become stronger. Sure it might not seem fair to have level 15 guys killing you, but it's not their fault for being strong, it's your fault for being weak. :P

[Kinatt]

I agree with Konidias and Shrimpy. And if you don't want to get killed Dont go on battle mode.. geez..

[Rax]

reset everyone plz

[LOA--Paul]

Originally posted by Shrimp Okonomiyaki

Both servers need to take a lesson from Valikoria and have a Manditory RP Rule, at least for being in a kingdom. A good thing to implement is once you put on your kingdom tag you automatically get put in kingdom mode. Prevent non Kingdom-Oriented people from going to any of the kingdom islands. Get all the kingdoms to require an RP test. And Kingdom leaders, start cracking down on bad RPer's already, be strict, if they are really loyal to your kingdom then they will straighten out, otherwise boot them.

YES YES YES.

Although non kingdom members should be allowed to get to Kingdom Isles, there are some people who roleplay and are not a member of a kingdom.
But yeah, mandatory RPing would be tremendous!

[zell12]

I think leave if go, I thought this out, and I say your all happy you got new dungeons, go get what little hp and stuff you can from gaining levels for now until all the items are fixed, alchemy items are all added and fixed, and everythign works. Mabey then, we can be reset. But not until then and all the classes are fixed up.

I think for RP Purposes, not as a "Diablo type game", make it so you can make your own character. And set up your own sword, shield, armour, etc... at the start. They won't be able to have the dmg, wc, speed, or ac base changed, but you will only get the graphic changed to suit youy character. Like just for an example:
A Paladin would have shining Plate Armour, a helmet, leg, and foot armour. He would have a sword bathed in blue flames, and the shield would be a typical one I guess.

I'm not sure how this would all be planned out to work, but I think its a nice idea.
Then you can choose skills for your character, and give him stat points. (Max amount of skills and points oh course).

I don't know, this is a RPing server, and thats what we should be doing.

[graaliholic]

I just want a reset so that all the alchemy armors and event items are gone, most of which aren't helping the balance :o

[Kinatt]

How about just get rid of those items.

[Discharge]

Well no you see, a lot of us will focus more on gaining level then role playing. I mean heck, we rank everyone because of their level and not because of their role playing. We beg and recruit high level people so we can wipe the other kingdom off the face of this earth...graal...graal kingdoms.. Can't we just have four basic levels and to reach each level it will take thousands and thousands of exp. so not everyone would be a high level. And yea, I'm all thumbs up with Zell about being able to design our characters look. I want to use the Silver armor not the golden armor, or use this helmet because it looks cooler and matches with my cloths. But I can't because its weak and I'll get slashed up by a High Level Giant. Lets take our minds away from the hack and slash of shrooms and bunnies and start using our imagination more.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by konidias
High level players shouldn't be penalized for being so strong. That's ridiculous. You don't see them disqualifying guys in the Strong Man competition because they are "too strong".

The whole point of leveling is to become stronger.

Then as far as I am concerned Graal Kingdoms is not a role-playing server anymore if the point is to get all strong. I think you put it best when you said people on Graal Kigdoms are only "role acting" on the server by killing baddies and never role-playing.

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Discharge
Well no you see, a lot of us will focus more on gaining level then role playing. I mean heck, we rank everyone because of their level and not because of their role playing. We beg and recruit high level people so we can wipe the other kingdom off the face of this earth...graal...graal kingdoms.. Can't we just have four basic levels and to reach each level it will take thousands and thousands of exp. so not everyone would be a high level.

NO NO NO NO NO. That wouldn't be Graal Kingdoms. That'd be .. some other game! That'd be Graal Not-Kingdoms. I like the system. Leave it as is, and stop giving ranks based on level.

The kingdom leaders just need to fix things up. Mandatory RPing, and not basing ranks on level. Tah-dah! Problem solved, yo.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Locke_boy


NO NO NO NO NO. That wouldn't be Graal Kingdoms. That'd be .. some other game! That'd be Graal Not-Kingdoms. I like the system. Leave it as is, and stop giving ranks based on level.

The kingdom leaders just need to fix things up. Mandatory RPing, and not basing ranks on level. Tah-dah! Problem solved, yo.

No-no you listen, you know why we never have rp events or rp with each other anymore? Because this is what were all doing...Pressing S S S S S S S S S all day long. Never giving time to role play. Do you people honestly like pressing the same damm button all day to reach some level? OR do you prefer to role play with friends as some fantasy character that you created in your mind, enjoying, talking, sharing adventures. This is what role playing is about not pressing the S button on some porky looking things that now shoot fire.

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Discharge


No-no you listen, you know why we never have rp events or rp with each other anymore? Because this is what were all doing...Pressing S S S S S S S S S all day long. Never giving time to role play. Do you people honestly like pressing the same damm button all day to reach some level? OR do you prefer to role play with friends as some fantasy character that you created in your mind, enjoying, talking, sharing adventures. This is what role playing is about not pressing the S button on some porky looking things that now shoot fire.

*cough* That's what mandatory RPing is about. People can change this on their on. Mandatory RPing. Don't allow the non-RPers into Kingdoms.

[Kinatt]

Locke boy is brilliant, I love him in a strictly plutonic way.