renegade crapthread.

bigkow44 · #1 10-31-2002, 03:50 AM

As you know, Renegade was hacked by some people.
The other Renegade staff and I are going to change Renegade in some ways, maybe a new overworld or some other things.
Please dont put stupid stuff like spam, and dont change the subject. Please help us and post some thought through ideas that we could make and everyone would enjoy.

iroc_2001 · #2 10-31-2002, 04:52 AM

you guys are going to make a new overworld o_o
what happened to all the levels that u guys had...none of them were backed up?

Link188 · #3 10-31-2002, 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by iroc_2001
you guys are going to make a new overworld o_o
what happened to all the levels that u guys had...none of them were backed up?

Rob:
No we HAVE, but we're trying to even make it better, and I made better storyline with Twists etc

AlexH · #4 10-31-2002, 04:54 AM

Changing the entire overworld?

I ask again.
Why didn't anyone on the server have a complete backup of at least the levels?

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #5 10-31-2002, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH
Changing the entire overworld?

I ask again.
Why didn't anyone on the server have a complete backup of at least the levels?

They probably thought private servers couldn't be hacked.. Haha they sure fooled them!

Anyways you should ALWAYS backup the server.. Its just stupid not to do it..

Link188 · #6 10-31-2002, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by XxxxneosoftxxxX

They probably thought private servers couldn't be hacked.. Haha they sure fooled them!

Anyways you should ALWAYS backup the server.. Its just stupid not to do it..

Rob:
Did we say we didn't have a backup now? I said I wanted to make a new overworld to fit the new storyline. And I and others weren't to fond of the old one.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #7 10-31-2002, 06:25 AM

No you're not changing the overworld.

Damnit! Why must everyone turn something perfectly great into a silly thing?

Learn from mistakes in the past! Changing an overworld fails 90% of the time! The amount of time it will take for you to make a new playerworld is the amount of time it takes for the standards to raise, therefore, your playerworld will be released x months later and it won't be that good at all. Release it with the current overworld, everything is fine, but if you keep waddling along your custom heads/bodies/tileset will be old and no one will care anymore.

You should have backed up the levels, finish the scripts, and made it public. Renegade was supposed to come out 2 weeks after it went private, but it turns out it's been about 2 months already. You will be just like the other playerworlds that have been private for ages. They get released and they are not fun at all. That's why they're at the bottom of the list.

Example:
Maloria, although it was somewhat unfairly by Hawk was complete. It was done, they didn't waste time in private changing things. Now look at it, it's a fairly decent server. I've heard some good things about it.

Galethia comes out, with a big overworld, and look where it is now. Private again! I don't want to name other servers etc, it's kind of singling them out, but the point I am trying to drive across is waiting will only hurt your PW

Learn from past mistakes! This is why many Graal servers fail. It's a shame to have a classic server that has revolutionary ideas go to waste in private when people are developing the exact same things offline as we speak.

Link188 · #8 10-31-2002, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
No you're not changing the overworld.

Damnit! Why must everyone turn something perfectly great into a silly thing?

Learn from mistakes in the past! Changing an overworld fails 90% of the time! The amount of time it will take for you to make a new playerworld is the amount of time it takes for the standards to raise, therefore, your playerworld will be released x months later and it won't be that good at all. Release it with the current overworld, everything is fine, but if you keep waddling along your custom heads/bodies/tileset will be old and no one will care anymore.

You should have backed up the levels, finish the scripts, and made it public. Renegade was supposed to come out 2 weeks after it went private, but it turns out it's been about 2 months already. You will be just like the other playerworlds that have been private for ages. They get released and they are not fun at all. That's why they're at the bottom of the list.

Example:
Maloria, although it was somewhat unfairly by Hawk was complete. It was done, they didn't waste time in private changing things. Now look at it, it's a fairly decent server. I've heard some good things about it.

Galethia comes out, with a big overworld, and look where it is now. Private again! I don't want to name other servers etc, it's kind of singling them out, but the point I am trying to drive across is waiting will only hurt your PW

Learn from past mistakes! This is why many Graal servers fail. It's a shame to have a classic server that has revolutionary ideas go to waste in private when people are developing the exact same things offline as we speak.

Rob:
Well if we were ONLINE maybe we could do something

CyberX · #9 10-31-2002, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Example:
Maloria, although it was somewhat unfairly by Hawk was complete. It was done, they didn't waste time in private changing things. Now look at it, it's a fairly decent server. I've heard some good things about it.

It wasn't unfairly because Hawk passed it because it deserved. He only did and said that because he didn't care about Graal anymore. And it was also reviewed by Stefan before it went private, and he really loved it, but anyway, that's what everyone is saying about Maloria nowadays (about the development)!

People say that it really improved after the day it came out, specially with new events and new/fun npcs.

We are currently doing a MAJOR update (update, not a change) on the current Nations, npcs and levels. We are adding some fun npcs to the systems like the Trading and we are adding one more Nation (Polar Nation).

The Nation Wars will be bigger than ever and they also will have some new features too! And as an example of new npcs: new weapons for each Nation will be added too, like Spears and Slingshot!

Just be sure to connect on Maloria this weekend! We pretend to release it on Saturday.

DragonX · #10 10-31-2002, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by CyberX
We pretend to release it on Saturday.

Well if you pretend to release it then nobody will be on then because you aren't really releasing it! You are just pretending to!

(I know it was just a typo.)

**MysticalDragon** · #11 10-31-2002, 08:10 AM

*cough* prepairing *Cough*

konidias · #12 10-31-2002, 09:01 AM

Argh... stick with what you have! Why do people make enough of a server to get it private or online, and then decide within a month or two of being up, that they want to completely rebuild it all? I don't even want to start listing the pw's that have done this before... Andor, Faheria, Frolic... whoops I said I wasn't going to start listing them.

Link188 · #13 10-31-2002, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Argh... stick with what you have! Why do people make enough of a server to get it private or online, and then decide within a month or two of being up, that they want to completely rebuild it all? I don't even want to start listing the pw's that have done this before... Andor, Faheria, Frolic... whoops I said I wasn't going to start listing them.

Rob:
Well we basicly can't do ANYTHING right now lol

Tim26 · #14 11-02-2002, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Argh... stick with what you have! Why do people make enough of a server to get it private or online, and then decide within a month or two of being up, that they want to completely rebuild it all? I don't even want to start listing the pw's that have done this before... Andor, Faheria, Frolic... whoops I said I wasn't going to start listing them.

Just get renegade on someone and we will think of what to do from there -Zallan

(Grounded Time Remaining: Approximately 2 weeks or (14 days)

bigkow44 · #15 11-04-2002, 01:54 AM

I hate you all!

Its turning into spam again!
JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER RENEGADE THREAD!

We need ideas for things to improve on and stuff to make.
Not crap that cant be undone like us being hacked.

Warcaptain · #16 11-04-2002, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by bigkow44
As you know, Renegade was hacked by some people.
The other Renegade staff and I are going to change Renegade in some ways, maybe a new overworld or some other things.
Please dont put stupid stuff like spam, and dont change the subject. Please help us and post some thought through ideas that we could make and everyone would enjoy.

seriously, changing overworlds 100000 times is not good, players will be very discouraged to even play.

thats why with new enigma, im not even uploading anything untill tis completed.

SSRobgeta · #17 11-04-2002, 05:21 AM

Renegade is back online and we're using GMAP. Yes we have permisson to use it from Stefan. Dun worry we're basicly keeping all teh insides and stuff so all we're really doing is making a new overworld with GMAP. Our old overworld wasn't even done so we have like no work!
P.S.- I got my ACCT back =D

Tim26 · #18 11-04-2002, 05:22 AM

Yep
-Zallan

SSRobgeta · #19 11-04-2002, 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by Tim26
Yep
-Zallan

*cough*spam*sough*

Warcaptain · #20 11-04-2002, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Tim26
Yep
-Zallan

spamming is stupid dude...

i had every post onthis forum by me

and i didnt spam once

SSRobgeta · #21 11-04-2002, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain

spamming is stupid dude...

i had every post onthis forum by me

and i didnt spam once

Exactly, Zallan is a good worker, but kinda spams alot without knowing

Warcaptain · #22 11-04-2002, 05:32 AM

i wouldnt mind seeing some screenshots

the original renegade seemd pretty nice

but i know after managerial changes, playerworlds go downhill in quality and ideas.

but show some

SSRobgeta · #23 11-04-2002, 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
i wouldnt mind seeing some screenshots

the original renegade seemd pretty nice

but i know after managerial changes, playerworlds go downhill in quality and ideas.

but show some

We just got put up today and we haven't finished basicly anything except map and 30% of teh tileset. I WILL show some once we get further. I hope not to be on Private for more than 1-2 months at the most (considering we're only remaking overworld).

Tim26 · #24 11-04-2002, 09:32 AM

Renegade was hacked, today Loriel got my RC working and i added in all the remaining staff.

Stefan let us use the GMAP function for Renegade, this means you will see more unique things in some time

Everything we had was deleted but i believe we had some backups. Only staff will be able to experience the 2k2 look for now, heres a screenshot =o

(Zallan Assistant GM)

haunter · #25 11-04-2002, 09:48 AM

Oh god no... Not more G2k2 -_-

Gangster88 · #26 11-04-2002, 09:52 AM

Ummm you can re add me, and unban me, but if you dont thats cool :P

SSRobgeta · #27 11-04-2002, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Tim26
Renegade was hacked, today Loriel got my RC working and i added in all the remaining staff.

Stefan let us use the GMAP function for Renegade, this means you will see more unique things in some time

Everything we had was deleted but i believe we had some backups. Only staff will be able to experience the 2k2 look for now, heres a screenshot =o

(Zallan Assistant GM)

Why are you postign Screen shots of what ISN'T Renegade? You really piss me off ;\ That isn't even basicly RENEGADE. ASk next time before you post or I'm spam ur butt to next week

Gangster88 · #28 11-04-2002, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by SSRobgeta

Why are you postign Screen shots of what ISN'T Renegade? You really piss me off ;\ That isn't even basicly RENEGADE. ASk next time before you post or I'm spam ur butt to next week

LOL

SSRobgeta · #29 11-04-2002, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Gangster88

LOL

I Mean, we just got put up today and we started redoing. And he's sitting here posting SCREENSHOTS!!! It makes us look like we're using 2k2's tileset. Damn at least wait untill we do something good to it

Gangster88 · #30 11-04-2002, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by SSRobgeta

I Mean, we just got put up today and we started redoing. And he's sitting here posting SCREENSHOTS!!! It makes us look like we're using 2k2's tileset. Damn at least wait untill we do something good to it

Yup, that just makes Renegade look bad

Kuza · #31 11-04-2002, 10:55 AM

fire! fire! fire!

SSRobgeta · #32 11-04-2002, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Kuza
fire! fire! fire!

lol

Gangster88 · #33 11-04-2002, 11:01 AM

o.O poor Zallen is gonna get fired :P

Waltz5 · #34 11-04-2002, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Gangster88

Yup, that just makes Renegade look bad

As does the SSJ x150983401983408134 lookin for a g/f character in Rob's avatar :o.

SSRobgeta · #35 11-04-2002, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Waltz5

As does the SSJ x150983401983408134 lookin for a g/f character in Rob's avatar :o.

Hey now calm down. I was messing around with our Bodies

That was a hair style but I changed hair color and eye color. lol And yes he's single

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #36 11-04-2002, 02:02 PM

Why don't you release what you sent into the PWA (Jinx and I) because clearly, that is what we passed, and that is what we wanted to see go online, not a total variant.

Tim26 · #37 11-04-2002, 07:16 PM

This isnt renegade, i mean it is but not even 1% finished, all it is is a screenshot of me in it, the hackers deleted everything i dont know if someone backed up our stuff, i think we still have levels.

And gangster what position were you so i can get your account back i guess

Tim26 · #38 11-04-2002, 07:22 PM

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #39 11-05-2002, 02:57 AM

I'm glad you guys made the step, but I'm quite dissapointed.

There was a reason why I inspected Renegade, there was a reason why it passed. It passed because the server was fine as it is. It's almost like betrayal. People use the PWA to get their server online then totally remake the server without the restrictions of influence of the PWA itself. Because of that, I am very dissapointed

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #40 11-05-2002, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by Tim26
This isnt renegade, i mean it is but not even 1% finished, all it is is a screenshot of me in it, the hackers deleted everything i dont know if someone backed up our stuff, i think we still have levels.

And gangster what position were you so i can get your account back i guess

Yes! It is Renegade! It was the one Jinx and I passed! And therefore, you have created a totally new server and it does not deserve to be online.

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