About the council. - Page 2

Graal2001_LAT · #41 09-12-2002, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis

Everytime I go there, no one's there..should I stay and be lost and bored? not quite....

Everytime I look, keyword...when I look no one is on, so I don't visit and talk to the npc server...I go elsewhere typically...

It's because you can't, it boots you off to 2001. Please go on AIM I'd like to sudgest something!

zell12 · #42 09-12-2002, 07:18 AM

Council =

k?

ZanderX · #43 09-12-2002, 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
This is a very bad idea, seeing as how the GMs are now like dummies on strings being controled by the council. The PWA is now, ded, seeing as how they control that too. I saw his annnouncment, and thought it was something nice, and we was taking a break from Graal2002, but as I read it, I just stopped, and went to sleep for a while -_-

PWA hasn't really changed; Nemesis is still in charge.

TrueHeaT · #44 09-12-2002, 07:36 AM

are people that "sign contracts" being paid, or is it just a play-job?

Valder · #45 09-12-2002, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2
Valder, you got banned by unixmad for having '**** Graal....I quit' in your signature, I don't really think you are on his list of choices for a council member. I believe konidias should be one, Birdbird is a good choice too and Loriel aswell.

You shouldn't talk. You have absolutely no talent and only got the 2k2 job because you kiss ass. I was only kidding anyway. I don't really want any job for Graal anymore because of the way people are treated when they get power.

Nemesis · #46 09-12-2002, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

PWA hasn't really changed; Nemesis is still in charge.

Incharge of?

I report to the council..they state what I am supposed to do...It's no more of roaming around and trying to do whats needed...Tasks are given to me to complete thus those are the only tasks I'll complete unless told otherwise...

so I am not in "charge" technically...the council is when chosen

Unless I am misreading information and I failed to realize the concept

Valder · #47 09-12-2002, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis

Incharge of?

I report to the council..they state what I am supposed to do...It's no more of roaming around and trying to do whats needed...Tasks are given to me to complete thus those are the only tasks I'll complete unless told otherwise...

so I am not in "charge" technically...the council is when chosen

Unless I am misreading information and I failed to realize the concept

He means you are in charge of PWA...

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #48 09-12-2002, 07:41 AM

This will not work because:

1. This type of action will not work on graal. Perhaps if these council members and high staff actually lived in paris, and worked at the graal offices maybe...But I don't think they do.

2. There really aren't that many people that will be able to handle something like this. Possibly kai, but I don't think very many people would be able to do this.

3. This contract signing deally, it's just going to turn into a legal battle, if someone trys to quit. And it will turn bad....

4. These are not professional jobs, I doubt these people are getting paid. People won't handle them professionally.

5. As nem already said, it's just gonna be a person from the same list of 2k1 and 2k2 staff, that have already messed up, and are just gonna do something stupid again.

6. In addition, there is too much required communication, and none of these people's 'internet schedules' will be able to match

Nemesis · #49 09-12-2002, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

He means you are in charge of PWA...

I see..sorry

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #50 09-12-2002, 07:57 AM

I would vote scalper for classic playerworlds, but he might be tooo busy......

but also, could the owner of a PW be on council? I wouldn't think so because of biasness

DragonX2 · #51 09-12-2002, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

You shouldn't talk. You have absolutely no talent and only got the 2k2 job because you kiss ass. I was only kidding anyway. I don't really want any job for Graal anymore because of the way people are treated when they get power.

YES EXACTLY!
No not really!
I never kissed ass for a job on 2k2, it was GIVEN to me. Stop living in the past Valder I have changed since 2k1, I'm not a power hungry person like I used to be. Maybe if you would open your eyes and see that I'm not trying to gain power anywhere it's just funny how you try to nominate yourself when you were banned for saying 'F*** Graal'. Why do you have so much hatred? Anytime someone says something you respond with a negative remark such as '*****' or 'idiot' or '*******'. You've always been like that, why? Do I have to call you names to get my point across? No.

Also you can even ask unixmad, I never once kissed ass for the job. Also it's not like I have a super high job I am just there to help people when they need help.

Flamingblaze · #52 09-12-2002, 08:01 AM

Owners would be biased, thus no good. I also think that they should not be allowed to be staff on any server to prevent bias. And they should receive NO abilities (rc's or anything) this would ensure that people are doing it for the JOB not the rc as is so common these days (and before you start calling me corrupt and stuff notice I have NOTHING. No RC, just guilds access for global guilds, so this is a pre-emptive shut it you uneducated idiots.)

Valder · #53 09-12-2002, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

YES EXACTLY!
No not really!
I never kissed ass for a job on 2k2, it was GIVEN to me. Stop living in the past Valder I have changed since 2k1, I'm not a power hungry person like I used to be. Maybe if you would open your eyes and see that I'm not trying to gain power anywhere it's just funny how you try to nominate yourself when you were banned for saying 'F*** Graal'. Why do you have so much hatred? Anytime someone says something you respond with a negative remark such as '*****' or 'idiot' or '*******'. You've always been like that, why? Do I have to call you names to get my point across? No.

Also you can even ask unixmad, I never once kissed ass for the job. Also it's not like I have a super high job I am just there to help people when they need help.

Where in my last post did I call you idiot or *******? Also, I did not nominate myself. People are so eager to be on this counsil that I decided to add myself to it. It was a joke. I never actually want to be on this counsil. It's just going to end up being like Contego's HRO crap. The only people that I call stupid or idiotic are people that are out to get Kamuii because they don't think he is doing a good job. I am sick of it. I saw what you were doing when you would talk to Unixmad. You may not realize it, but you were kissing up.

DragonX2 · #54 09-12-2002, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

Where in my last post did I call you idiot or *******? Also, I did not nominate myself. People are so eager to be on this counsil that I decided to add myself to it. It was a joke. I never actually want to be on this counsil. It's just going to end up being like Contego's HRO crap. The only people that I call stupid or idiotic are people that are out to get Kamuii because they don't think he is doing a good job. I am sick of it. I saw what you were doing when you would talk to Unixmad. You may not realize it, but you were kissing up.

No not to me but in general when I read your posts you seem to call people names for no reason. I mean yes some people post idiotic things but you don't need to call them a name to get your point across. Ok, sorry I didn't interpret your post as a joke but it's funny how people used to call me power hungry when they are power hungry themselves (and some are even corrupt). When I talked to unixmad we talked about what I was supposed to do and stuff I never once said things like 'Yay unixmad you rock' or any of that kissing up stuff I talked to him like a normal person would, sorry that you see that as 'kissing up' but I know that I did none of that.

Flamingblaze · #55 09-12-2002, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

No not to me but in general when I read your posts you seem to call people names for no reason. I mean yes some people post idiotic things but you don't need to call them a name to get your point across. Ok, sorry I didn't interpret your post as a joke but it's funny how people used to call me power hungry when they are power hungry themselves (and some are even corrupt). When I talked to unixmad we talked about what I was supposed to do and stuff I never once said things like 'Yay unixmad you rock' or any of that kissing up stuff I talked to him like a normal person would, sorry that you see that as 'kissing up' but I know that I did none of that.

How about both of you duke it out old school style?

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #56 09-12-2002, 08:10 AM

Forums aren't the place to dispute stupid arguments. That's what AIM is for.

Valder · #57 09-12-2002, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
How about both of you duke it out old school style?

You're an idiot, shut up.

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Originally posted by DragonX2
No not to me but in general when I read your posts you seem to call people names for no reason. I mean yes some people post idiotic things but you don't need to call them a name to get your point across. Ok, sorry I didn't interpret your post as a joke but it's funny how people used to call me power hungry when they are power hungry themselves (and some are even corrupt). When I talked to unixmad we talked about what I was supposed to do and stuff I never once said things like 'Yay unixmad you rock' or any of that kissing up stuff I talked to him like a normal person would, sorry that you see that as 'kissing up' but I know that I did none of that.

You did infact say stuff like that. Maybe you weren't intentially doing it, but that's what I interpret it as. I personally don't care anymore, because people complain about everyone getting a job and it's rediculous.

Flamingblaze · #58 09-12-2002, 08:15 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Valder
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You're an idiot, shut up.

Oh I'm sorry I was "joking" please forgive me for joking like you Valder, I guess only YOU can joke right? You dumb SOB. **** I was on your side for a while but that's just frickin sad when you think a comment like that is made in seriousness. You obviously lack the mental capacity to even wipe your own ass much less be staff for anything.

Valder · #59 09-12-2002, 08:17 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Flamingblaze
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Originally posted by Valder

You're an idiot, shut up.

Oh I'm sorry I was "joking" please forgive me for joking like you Valder, I guess only YOU can joke right? You dumb SOB. **** I was on your side for a while but that's just frickin sad when you think a comment like that is made in seriousness. You obviously lack the mental capacity to even wipe your own ass much less be staff for anything.

I don't really care if you were on my side. I have hated you long before I even knew about Googi. You should have been banned long ago for trying to hack everyone that you message on AIM. Your remarks are stupid and unfunny.

DragonX2 · #60 09-12-2002, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
You did infact say stuff like that. Maybe you weren't intentially doing it, but that's what I interpret it as. I personally don't care anymore, because people complain about everyone getting a job and it's rediculous.

Wait a sec though, when did I say this stuff? You were BANNED for 5 weeks, are you a psychic? I never said things like that. Also why would I suck up when I am QUITTING soon? Well maybe, I haven't fully decided yet, I thought I was going to but now there is nothing much to do here (around where I live) and I am moving in 2003 to Texas X_x. People interpret things differently, I accept the fact you thought I was kissing up but I don't agree with it because I know I didn't do any of that. Yes people complain about everyone getting a job because they are jealous, it happens everywhere, oh well.

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #61 09-12-2002, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

I don't really care if you were on my side. I have hated you long before I even knew about Googi. You should have been banned long ago for trying to hack everyone that you message on AIM. Your remarks are stupid and unfunny.

You seem like a very large *******.

Tyhm · #62 09-12-2002, 08:20 AM

Bah. I liked the monarchy better. I'm thinking of what a hassle LAT hiring is, and applying that to everyday GM responsibilites gives me a headache. If there was an infrastructure - if all councilmembers could but a measure on the table, all councilmembers could log in to their secret headquarters, vote on all measures on the table, and when it gets 4 it passes...anyone who hasn't voted in a week is disregarded (6 members, 1 doesn't show, act like it's 5 members - 3 is a majority instead of a tie)...THEN, and only then, will there be a guaranteed turnaround time of ONE WEEK.

Flamingblaze · #63 09-12-2002, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

I don't really care if you were on my side. I have hated you long before I even knew about Googi. You should have been banned long ago for trying to hack everyone that you message on AIM. Your remarks are stupid and unfunny.

AIM = not punishable on Graal. AIM is a totally separate program which has no bearings on Graal whatsoever. Technically I could cuss out Nemesis on there and call him whatever racist comments I want and nothing could be done about it. Those are the rules. Tough. Edit: and it's only idiots like you that I would. I actually talk to a few Graalians on AIM without any problem, they aren't complete imbeciles like you.

Valder · #64 09-12-2002, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
AIM = not punishable on Graal. AIM is a totally separate program which has no bearings on Graal whatsoever. Technically I could cuss out Nemesis on there and call him whatever racist comments I want and nothing could be done about it. Those are the rules. Tough. Edit: and it's only idiots like you that I would. I actually talk to a few Graalians on AIM without any problem, they aren't complete imbeciles like you.

No, you would try to hack me for Graal Related Things, so therefor it is related to graal.

Flamingblaze · #65 09-12-2002, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

No, you would try to hack me for Graal Related Things, so therefor it is related to graal.

Doesn't matter whatsoever as it's a separate program. It's not Graal Online and thus can not carry punishment over TO Graal Online.

Valder · #66 09-12-2002, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
Doesn't matter whatsoever as it's a separate program. It's not Graal Online and thus can not carry punishment over TO Graal Online.

I think it is. Alright, let's put it in this perspective. If I were to send Unixmad a Virus, and told him I did it because he banned my account, I would get in trouble no matter what. You tried to hack me because I fired you from ET. It's Graal Related, so therefor you should have been banned.

Flamingblaze · #67 09-12-2002, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

I think it is. Alright, let's put it in this perspective. If I were to send Unixmad a Virus, and told him I did it because he banned my account, I would get in trouble no matter what. You tried to hack me because I fired you from ET. It's Graal Related, so therefor you should have been banned.

I was ET? When was that? I'm pretty sure I kicked you off AIM a couple times because you jailed me for PKing Birdbird when he was off duty.

Valder · #68 09-12-2002, 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
I was ET? When was that? I'm pretty sure I kicked you off AIM a couple times because you jailed me for PKing Birdbird when he was off duty.

Uhh, no, your reasoning was because I fired you from ET because you were inactive. I think it was the first time I got ET. Anyway, let's stay on topic.

Flamingblaze · #69 09-12-2002, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

Uhh, no, your reasoning was because I fired you from ET because you were inactive. I think it was the first time I got ET. Anyway, let's stay on topic.

The topic is that your corrupt jailing of me for pking off duty birdo resulted in actions off Graal. I'm nearly positive (although not 100%) that I was never ET. I know I was FAQ for a good long time.

Lyndzey · #70 09-12-2002, 08:29 AM

Pick someone who plays on all servers, not just 2001/2002.

No offense to konidias, Birdbird, or anyone else who was nominated, but most of this thread states people who rarely pay attention to Classic servers.

No, I'm not saying nominate me because I play on most servers, because I would not like to be a part of this council thing. Account Admin is good enough for me, and this council thing could end up corrupt if it goes in the wrong direction.

Flamingblaze · #71 09-12-2002, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
Pick someone who plays on all servers, not just 2001/2002.

No offense to konidias, Birdbird, or anyone else who was nominated, but most of this thread states people who rarely pay attention to Classic servers.

No, I'm not saying nominate me because I play on most servers, because I would not like to be a part of this council thing. Account Admin is good enough for me, and this council thing could end up corrupt if it goes in the wrong direction.

I agree with Lyndzey's thinking that someone familiar with all servers = better.

Valder · #72 09-12-2002, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
The topic is that your corrupt jailing of me for pking off duty birdo resulted in actions off Graal. I'm nearly positive (although not 100%) that I was never ET. I know I was FAQ for a good long time.

HAHA, your signature made me laugh because I know that I am much smarter than you are.

Anyway,
The counsil will probably not work anyway. People will fight for the power and if they hire the wrong person they could make the GM look bad in front of Stefan and/or Unixmad.

Valder · #73 09-12-2002, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
Pick someone who plays on all servers, not just 2001/2002.

No offense to konidias, Birdbird, or anyone else who was nominated, but most of this thread states people who rarely pay attention to Classic servers.

No, I'm not saying nominate me because I play on most servers, because I would not like to be a part of this council thing. Account Admin is good enough for me, and this council thing could end up corrupt if it goes in the wrong direction.

That is so very true. I don't think they should have even seperated the GM jobs :-/
Nemesis has FAR more work than Ibonic does and it's quite unfair. I think they should just both share the responsibility.

Flamingblaze · #74 09-12-2002, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

HAHA, your signature made me laugh because I know that I am much smarter than you are.

Anyway,
The counsil will probably not work anyway. People will fight for the power and if they hire the wrong person they could make the GM look bad in front of Stefan and/or Unixmad.

I agree about council being bad idea. I also think Valder should learn how to properly spell the words he decides to type.

Valder · #75 09-12-2002, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
I agree about council being bad idea. I also think Valder should learn how to properly spell the words he decides to type.

What the hell are you talking about?

Flamingblaze · #76 09-12-2002, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

What the hell are you talking about?

COUNCIL, you decide to insult my intelligence yet you are unable to properly spell a relatively simple word such as COUNCIL

Valder · #77 09-12-2002, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
COUNCIL, you decide to insult my intelligence yet you are unable to properly spell a relatively simple word such as COUNCIL

Omi, and yet you try and make fun of me by not adding words where they should be added.

"I agree about THE council being A bad idea. I also think Valder should learn how to properly spell the words he decides to type."

zell12 · #78 09-12-2002, 08:45 AM

Stop arguin before you guys get my thread closed

Nemesis · #79 09-12-2002, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
Stop arguin before you guys get my thread closed

I always look to you for the smartest post of them all...then again Tyhm has said it...yet we'll see...Everyone has the iffy part about a corrupt council...yet we do not have a clue who's on it...

In my opinion the council should be the other way around...Should support the game master in decision then again they should all work together as one but the GM makse primarily the key decision as some decisions cannot be waited on, and the Council is valid...

Anyone see Star Wars? see how that council was conducted (episode 2) similar to that but more indepth and detailed...then again if I have to report to the council, it basically makes a slow process when actions need to be taken and things need to be done...I say reverse it and positive outlook and outcome...Because somethings cannot wait to be voted on nor discussed about...Yet it could be restructured, and I'd be glad to work with a council who will share ideas, and research and we can work on the good of the game and vote on decision but yet, someone needs to be the core activist and needs to be able to make the key decision and be trusted with them...But then again...what do I know

gokux33 · #80 09-12-2002, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis

I always look to you for the smartest post of them all...then again Tyhm has said it...yet we'll see...Everyone has the iffy part about a corrupt council...yet we do not have a clue who's on it...

In my opinion the council should be the other way around...Should support the game master in decision then again they should all work together as one but the GM makse primarily the key decision as some decisions cannot be waited on, and the Council is valid...

Anyone see Star Wars? see how that council was conducted (episode 2) similar to that but more indepth and detailed...then again if I have to report to the council, it basically makes a slow process when actions need to be taken and things need to be done...I say reverse it and positive outlook and outcome...Because somethings cannot wait to be voted on nor discussed about...Yet it could be restructured, and I'd be glad to work with a council who will share ideas, and research and we can work on the good of the game and vote on decision but yet, someone needs to be the core activist and needs to be able to make the key decision and be trusted with them...But then again...what do I know

Haha, we're basing Graal Management off a movie. x_X No wonder why it's in the crapper.