Playerworld Problems

[nyghtGT]

Lately I've been eyeballing this thread looking at a lot of the problems with playerworlds, and more then 50% of the time it has to do with bad administration. Now what troubles me is that Graal is a money making production, but yet, it is run by incapable youths.

I'm 17, and i'll admit I can lose my temper a few times here and there, but I have enough sense of when enough is enough. In other words, i'm not going to go around making an ass of myself because of something ONE person did to offend me.

Playerworld staff, you need to clean up your act. I went browsing on servers and kept hearing about this "secret playerworld review" and thats the only reason a bunch are starting to work more. You people shouldn't have to be presured to work. it should be a mutual thing. I myself am a bit lazy, but I know when its appropriate to be and when its not.

My advice for the PW Administration team is to try and start making sure that the current servers up are running somewhat ok, before new ones are put up. Saving us all a lot of grief and "I HATE THIS OWNER" threads in the forums...

[azuretek23]

looks to delteria forums http://forums.delteria.net I dont see anyone mad at the administration there in fact I think delteria has the best staff of all

now max and SP_Agent arent on much but there is blade and cloven to do stuff in their absence and I think they do a good job I just think we need to have more organized Lats, Nats, and GFX

DELTERIA ROX

[nyghtGT]

I'll admit Delteria does have fairly good management compaired to other servers, the only thin I dislike is the lack of attendance by Maximus and SP, they both use to be my friends but once they got ownership powers friendship flew out the window and RC came in through the front door...

[Jinx]

Thats why I think that once a PW is up, a PW Inspector should go over it every month or so, to see if it still deserves to be up, if it doesn't then the Psyker/Nemesis will have a chat with the owner and find out what's going on, etc.

Or maybe monthly checks wouldn't be the thing, maybe just random checks every now and then, that way the staff wouldn't be pressured just to work when they know a review is coming up.

-Jinx

[nyghtGT]

Originally posted by Jinx
Thats why I think that once a PW is up, a PW Inspector should go over it every month or so, to see if it still deserves to be up, if it doesn't then the Psyker/Nemesis will have a chat with the owner and find out what's going on, etc.

Or maybe monthly checks wouldn't be the thing, maybe just random checks every now and then, that way the staff wouldn't be pressured just to work when they know a review is coming up.

-Jinx

How bout this. An inspector visits a playerworld twice a month. And if between that time there is no progress a meeting with the owner is scheduled...

[SingleChance]

i think that one of the problems is that most staff on servers forget that this is a game and they become too involved and take it too seriously..and thats why they get so frustrated...

sure, they are running a playerworld, but it is still a game and it should be relaxed...

[azuretek23]

well frustration isnt really a big thing its mostly people contributing if no one contributes it fails....

if you are too laid back nothing gets done there needs to be some kind of motivation

[Python523]

one of the biggest problems with playerworlds is that the owners hire friends for high jobs, and if the friend gets in an arguement with say someone who can do the job a lot better, the friend always wins the arguement, that's one big problems, another is similar but some owners seem to discrimenate (sp?) against some staff, like they always side with a few staff and they never get in trouble while the other staff will get in trouble for the simplest things

[BARGAD]

Originally posted by nyghtGT

How bout this. An inspector visits a playerworld twice a month. And if between that time there is no progress a meeting with the owner is scheduled...

Problem is that if no progress is coming along, the playerworld owners will say that they work on something really big which isn't upploaded yet and that they all work on it offline or something.

[shavomombetto]

But see bad part about this is, that people who read these forums immediately know what to expect. Even in random "check-ups", the inspectors will be using their names, such as "jinx" or "psyker", which will them tip off the RC's and Staff online at the time that something's happening and they will tidy up. The solution to this is, don't use your name, just go there and play like a newbie, and see if you like the server, ask people if this server's any good and if you should keep playing it. That will get other people's opinions about the server, and it won't draw any attention to youd X_x

[WHIPENIE4]

(X-Mann)
I think Pyskers not in charge of that anymore, maybe Nemisis should form a small team to deal with that, like a 4 man team, make sure they are doing their jobs correctly and make sure they stop those stupid masses, I go on playerworlds, the GPs are massing negative things, now on classic, you cant mass anything non dealing with the Server, and they incurrage you not to. You should try to go off the influence of classic as much as poossible and make it better from there

[Jinx]

How bout this. An inspector visits a playerworld twice a month. And if between that time there is no progress a meeting with the owner is scheduled

*Shrug* It's not really up to me, Psyker's the PW Admin.

But see bad part about this is, that people who read these forums immediately know what to expect. Even in random "check-ups", the inspectors will be using their names, such as "jinx" or "psyker", which will them tip off the RC's and Staff online at the time that something's happening and they will tidy up. The solution to this is, don't use your name, just go there and play like a newbie, and see if you like the server, ask people if this server's any good and if you should keep playing it. That will get other people's opinions about the server, and it won't draw any attention to youd X_x

It doesn't say anywhere that it's required for PW Inpectors to always wear the same name, we just put on a different head and name.

(X-Mann)
I think Pyskers not in charge of that anymore, maybe Nemisis should form a small team to deal with that, like a 4 man team, make sure they are doing their jobs correctly and make sure they stop those stupid masses, I go on playerworlds, the GPs are massing negative things, now on classic, you cant mass anything non dealing with the Server, and they incurrage you not to. You should try to go off the influence of classic as much as poossible and make it better from there

I hope Psyker is still in charge of it, he IS the PW Admin, is he not? I like Nemesis and agree with what's happening, but I really hope that it doesn't mean Nemesis takes over all of Psyker's duties.

-Jinx

[stefan76]

Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
(X-Mann)
I think Pyskers not in charge of that anymore, maybe Nemisis should form a small team to deal with that, like a 4 man team, make sure they are doing their jobs correctly and make sure they stop those stupid masses, I go on playerworlds, the GPs are massing negative things, now on classic, you cant mass anything non dealing with the Server, and they incurrage you not to. You should try to go off the influence of classic as much as poossible and make it better from there

They are trying to cut down on the number of PW Team members. I dont think they would make more positions for it. Anyways its the Inspectors jobs to inspect the playerworlds for things like this...Although I think the owner deals with things like how staff conduct themselves...

[Psyker]

Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
(X-Mann)
I think Pyskers not in charge of that anymore, maybe Nemisis should form a small team to deal with that, like a 4 man team, make sure they are doing their jobs correctly and make sure they stop those stupid masses, I go on playerworlds, the GPs are massing negative things, now on classic, you cant mass anything non dealing with the Server, and they incurrage you not to. You should try to go off the influence of classic as much as poossible and make it better from there

Nemesis deals with the staff, s'all!

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by BARGAD


Problem is that if no progress is coming along, the playerworld owners will say that they work on something really big which isn't upploaded yet and that they all work on it offline or something.

Considering that 3D terrain and NPCs on it don't work online on a "type-1" server (only 2k2 has "type-2" so far) I can only work on it...OFFLINE! I also don't like hanging around on my RC for too long because then I get people flooding me with inane questions and wanting to be staff when they are far from remotely even qualifying :/

If I'm ever on my PW, it's to update maybe some of the system NPCs and such to test them online...other than that everything else is performed offline. It's not easy making a PW...but I enjoy what I do...but even I get burnt out

</rant?>

[Nemesis]

I try to visit all the playerworlds. I do not visit some because no one is really on that I can talk to about ownership.

There are ones that I like, Delteria, is one of them, lots of staff there and friendly people. Rudora is another friendly server. Just ownership problems, that I intend on correcting. Along with that there are the downside servers =/

I am not going to name them just because I rather not start riots on the forums =( so thus this will be handled privately with the input of Psyker on his inspection findings (along with his team). Also on that I didn't name all the good servers, sorry, (very tired) I just named the first 2 that popped in my head. =D

I'll be around a lot later today, because I do not work irl so I can spend more time figuring out problems an d such =D

.btw, I do regular checks on the servers, if you do not believe me , ask staff of the servers I have visited often.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Nemesis
I try to visit all the playerworlds. I do not visit some because no one is really on that I can talk to about ownership.

There are ones that I like, Delteria, is one of them, lots of staff there and friendly people. Rudora is another friendly server. Just ownership problems, that I intend on correcting. Along with that there are the downside servers =/

I am not going to name them just because I rather not start riots on the forums =( so thus this will be handled privately with the input of Psyker on his inspection findings (along with his team). Also on that I didn't name all the good servers, sorry, (very tired) I just named the first 2 that popped in my head. =D

I'll be around a lot later today, because I do not work irl so I can spend more time figuring out problems an d such =D

.btw, I do regular checks on the servers, if you do not believe me , ask staff of the servers I have visited often.

Easiest ways to contact me...email for forum PM...if you catch me on my PW from this point until I get my current project up, consider yourself lucky

[G_yoshi]

One last thing...I'll never relenquish ownership of my PW to anyone...never. If I ever leave...then my PW comes with me...of course, certain circumstances may arise that someone I find will do a good enough job as I want them to do...but chances are that won't happen. I treat my PW as UC even though it is not marked that...give me time to get things finished, and everything will be ok

I won't get my new processor and HSF till wednesday...so I'll try to do a little work...but for now I'm just kind of waiting for some of my groups that I've put together to at least report or something so I can evaluate their progress ...

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by G_yoshi
One last thing...I'll never relenquish ownership of my PW to anyone...never. If I ever leave...then my PW comes with me...of course, certain circumstances may arise that someone I find will do a good enough job as I want them to do...

That is what Unixmad has suggested become motioned. I have to discuss it with him further, then again if he makes that rule and I post it, I can see more messages towards myself occur on the forums =( anyways, I just gotta do what I gotta do.........My job! lol

[nyghtGT]

I remember when DK came out, it had many nice things.

But why is it after these servers are up for a month they do a whole new complete overworld, and say they are UC for a few months?

[Graal518]

I honestly think that within each playerworld, they should be like a family. People who can work closely with eachother without much concern for power or who is higher than who. Most of all, to have fun as you work. Maybe I'm just blind...but I don't see this "family connectivity" much. We can't be keeping our family in the dark about everything, making crucial decisions on the curb... I know this sounds stupid, so I'll shut up now.

[Psyker]

Originally posted by Graal518
I honestly think that within each playerworld, they should be like a family. People who can work closely with eachother without much concern for power or who is higher than who. Most of all, to have fun as you work. Maybe I'm just blind...but I don't see this "family connectivity" much. We can't be keeping our family in the dark about everything, making crucial decisions on the curb... I know this sounds stupid, so I'll shut up now.

You must miss Mithica, don't you?

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Nemesis


That is what Unixmad has suggested become motioned. I have to discuss it with him further, then again if he makes that rule and I post it, I can see more messages towards myself occur on the forums =( anyways, I just gotta do what I gotta do.........My job! lol

If that is what he wants, fine But I've put the most work into my PW that it would be very stupid to just hand it off to someone else

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by nyghtGT
I remember when DK came out, it had many nice things.

But why is it after these servers are up for a month they do a whole new complete overworld, and say they are UC for a few months?

My PW has been UC for a long time...mostly because I have been trying to finish my important NPCs...only recently have I gotten an extra hand to help out...but he's sorta dissappeared I started a new overworld because I <3 the 3D terrain...there is so much you can do with it...too much potential to just keep it locked up Not only that, it does make it easier to design the overworld since it's mostly just a matter of NPC placement. Only tiles you mess with are paths if you want any Inside levels, however, use my default_pics.png so I will try to add more inside-type tiles to the set for those that want nice indoor stuff Once I get my new computer up and running, I'll try to focus more on getting the overworld complete...heck, I may try to resubmit it as a new PW possibly or something so that I can convince Stefan and Unixmad to allow me the usage of the special server I've spent a lot of time especially on what little GFX I have so far...I know they don't look outstanding, but I think they go well with the terrain

[Graal518]

Originally posted by Psyker

You must miss Mithica, don't you?

I miss what Mithica was.