Read me

Spectre1337 · #1 03-12-2002, 05:36 AM

For those of you who think I hack, read this :o

Here is the program I was using, its not a trainer or a speeder, it is a project I have been working on to show the heads of the people in the level you are in. I finally got it working right, go ahead and take a look at the screenshot. Im not giving it out until im sure it cant be used as a trainer or whatever.

It was not supposed to make me mine fast, it was supposed to make the head numbers show up. So I click the 'Show Heads' button and it makes my A, S, and D keys go fast. Before I knew how to turn it off I was banned

If you read this and you are Alkaren or something, please unban my account

P.s. screen_name go on graal or tell me your aim name =(

screen_name · #2 03-12-2002, 05:41 AM

AIM: graal player 101
MSN: [email protected]

AlkarenHyralt · #3 03-12-2002, 05:42 AM

You are staying banned.

You aren't allowed to make programs that change or alter the game in any way, including those kinds of things.

I saw you hacking, I was too busy at that time to ban you then, so I banned you when I remembered later.

End of story, end of arguement.

Spectre1337 · #4 03-12-2002, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
You are staying banned.

You aren't allowed to make programs that change or alter the game in any way, including those kinds of things.

I saw you hacking, I was too busy at that time to ban you then, so I banned you when I remembered later.

End of story, end of arguement.

1. I never hacked, if you have proof post it, if no proof, then go away and stop saying I hack when I dont.
2. Why pay 39$ for another account that youll probably ban? Or is it some way to make money for Stefan?

ZORG1986 · #5 03-12-2002, 05:45 AM

Alkaren it looks like it just displays information from Graal, that is legal surley.

Shrimp Okonomiyaki · #6 03-12-2002, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
You are staying banned.

You aren't allowed to make programs that change or alter the game in any way, including those kinds of things.

I saw you hacking, I was too busy at that time to ban you then, so I banned you when I remembered later.

End of story, end of arguement.

And Zeus has spoken!

Slaktmaster · #7 03-12-2002, 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by Spectre1337

1. I never hacked, if you have proof post it, if no proof, then go away and stop saying I hack when I dont.
2. Why pay 39$ for another account that youll probably ban? Or is it some way to make money for Stefan?

You admitted to hacking in your previous post by saying you made that program, BAM.

AlkarenHyralt · #8 03-12-2002, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spectre1337

1. I never hacked, if you have proof post it, if no proof, then go away and stop saying I hack when I dont.
2. Why pay 39$ for another account that youll probably ban? Or is it some way to make money for Stefan?

I don't take screenshots, plus a screenshot of speed hacking isn't really possible.

Spectre1337 · #9 03-12-2002, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

I don't take screenshots, plus a screenshot of speed hacking isn't really possible.

I never speed hacked no matter what you claim. Soto used to hack and he is Police, whats up with that?

Spectre1337 · #10 03-12-2002, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by Slaktmaster

You admitted to hacking in your previous post by saying you made that program, BAM.

No, I said i was breaking rocks fast which was a bug from the program I made. It was malfunctioning (sp?)

AlkarenHyralt · #11 03-12-2002, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spectre1337

I never speed hacked no matter what you claim. Soto used to hack and he is Police, whats up with that?

Ah, I see. These old eyes must be going blind then.

Spectre1337 · #12 03-12-2002, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

Ah, I see. These old eyes must be going blind then.

They must be. Maybe you should get glasses or contacts?

Shrimp Okonomiyaki · #13 03-12-2002, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spectre1337
No, I said i was breaking rocks fast which was a bug from the program I made. It was malfunctioning (sp?)

If its just supposed to display heads I dun get how it could make you move faster..
But thats just me

Spectre1337 · #14 03-12-2002, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shrimp Okonomiyaki

If its just supposed to display heads I dun get how it could make you move faster..
But thats just me

If you take Viagra it makes you move faster, thats because it has certain ingredients that make it do that. I dont know what I put in the program to make it do that but I changed it and it works normal now.

draygin · #15 03-12-2002, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

You aren't allowed to make programs that change or alter the game in any way, including those kinds of things.

Personally I could care less either way. But if what he says is true then the program neither changes or alters the game in any way or form it just tells him what head a person is using I mean sure he used poor judgment in not getting permission before first testing something. but if you banned people for poor judgment that would be 80% of the graal population. Why not just have some one test out the program if he's telling the truth he wont mind just one person seeing it.

FFusion · #16 03-12-2002, 06:11 AM

how do we know you aren't just using this program as an excuse to get unbanned?

Googi · #17 03-12-2002, 06:13 AM

There is already a program like that named "Graal Morph", it is illegal and you can be banned for using it and you made a clone of Graal Morph so you should be banned.

Dilrod · #18 03-12-2002, 06:16 AM

look... its your word agains alkaren's.... and in this game he out weigh's you, as i just learned last nite "hacking" means altering computer programs no matter what it means it does matter what your intentions were...

Shrimp Okonomiyaki · #19 03-12-2002, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by FFusion
how do we know you aren't just using this program as an excuse to get unbanned?

Also true, you coulda just made that image =/

Admins · #20 03-12-2002, 06:27 AM

Many people don't want that other people copy their look,
that's why the profile window doesn't display informations
like head or sword. Changing the exe is illegal anyway, no
matter what the changes are doing.

FFusion · #21 03-12-2002, 06:28 AM

the image looks very fake.

Providence_Admin3 · #22 03-12-2002, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Many people don't want that other people copy their look,
that's why the profile window doesn't display informations
like head or sword. Changing the exe is illegal anyway, no
matter what the changes are doing.

Thank you, Stefan, for clearing this up.

Faheria_GP2 · #23 03-12-2002, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
You are staying banned.

You aren't allowed to make programs that change or alter the game in any way, including those kinds of things.

I saw you hacking, I was too busy at that time to ban you then, so I banned you when I remembered later.

End of story, end of arguement.

it reads from the memory no? if so, it doesn't ALTER anything, just display information that the program is outputting

AlkarenHyralt · #24 03-12-2002, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Many people don't want that other people copy their look,
that's why the profile window doesn't display informations
like head or sword. Changing the exe is illegal anyway, no
matter what the changes are doing.

Exactly, that's why I keep my head number such a secret

konidias · #25 03-12-2002, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Many people don't want that other people copy their look,
that's why the profile window doesn't display informations
like head or sword. Changing the exe is illegal anyway, no
matter what the changes are doing.

This is exactly what I was trying to say when he kept bothering me online about getting unbanned since he said he was just making a program to see head numbers. I told him making a program that affects you on Graal is illegal.

Anyway, to make this really simple, just save the level as a snapshot, open the level in graal level editor, and you can see every person on the level, just click them and check out their attributes there.. head, clothes colors, sword, shield, everything.

Spectre1337 · #26 03-12-2002, 09:12 AM

It doesnt alter Graal or change it, it doesnt even matter what kind of Graal you are on, online or offline.. You can get the head numbers of NPCs and players and soon ill make it so you can see bomy info like the name of the bomy.

It doesnt change or edit or anything so it shouldnt be illegal and bannable so please unban me =\

(edit)

just unban it and save me the trouble of upgrading a new one. It costs me money too, and I dont work for money just so you can ban my account and cost me another 40 bux.

Spectre1337 · #27 03-12-2002, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

Exactly, that's why I keep my head number such a secret

I bet everyone knows your head number, its in the first 300s or so.

Providence_Admin3 · #28 03-12-2002, 09:34 AM

Stefan himself said what you did was wrong, yet you continue to challenge his authority! Wise man.

Spectre1337 · #29 03-12-2002, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Providence_Admin3
Stefan himself said what you did was wrong, yet you continue to challenge his authority! Wise man.

What stefan didnt understand was I didnt make it so people could copy off other people and impersonate them. Im not giving it out to anybody, not even my gang of nerds. And its not illegal to find out a head number that was made for everyone to use, lets say "head510.gif".. someone might ask "What is the bird head" and I would go to a level with a bird NPC or player in it and press "Show heads" and it would say head510.gif.

*isleet programmor*

(edit) isleet programmor, isbad spellor.

Faheria_GP2 · #30 03-12-2002, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Providence_Admin3
Stefan himself said what you did was wrong, yet you continue to challenge his authority! Wise man.

haha, impersonation is too easy already anyways

ALT+5 PEOPLE

Psyker · #31 03-12-2002, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_GP2

haha, impersonation is too easy already anyways

ALT+5 PEOPLE

shut up, don't tell anyone

Faheria_GP2 · #32 03-12-2002, 11:16 AM

heh, I have loads of players costumes...here is a small sample

DeathChill · #33 03-12-2002, 11:23 AM

How can a program to show heads make you move faster?it can't!%$(@&% And in your other posts you even said you used a fast rock breaking prog or so :P

Spectre1337 · #34 03-13-2002, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
How can a program to show heads make you move faster?it can't!%$(@&% And in your other posts you even said you used a fast rock breaking prog or so :P

Go read it again, come back, then edit your post