Is buying an apple for 20k legal? - Page 2

Jap · #41 01-15-2002, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by Infamy

Because 1g is simple to get where as 20,000 takes like months to earn.

Then your actions should be differant. If it's the same situation, then the money value is irrelevant.

Infamy · #42 01-15-2002, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

Then your actions should be differant. If it's the same situation, then the money value is irrelevant.

i didn't take any actions

i'm only explaining the facts.

_AcidIce_ · #43 01-15-2002, 05:50 AM

INfamy is rite , I dont care if you people flame me now , your opnion about me has no effect in my life . I even told Jap , if you scammed me 2k or somehting hten I would of been like whatever but 20,000 is a little bit over the limit . yes I know I did make a mistake by buying the apple but Jap did PM me saying he was giving away apples since he has 18k a house and a bomy. So he did tell me he was giving away FREE apples.

AlkarenHyralt · #44 01-15-2002, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

Then your actions should be differant. If it's the same situation, then the money value is irrelevant.

I find the gralat value to be very important and this situation. There is a large difference in scamming someone for let's say 100 gralat, and scamming them for 20,000 gralat.

Psyker · #45 01-15-2002, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
INfamy is rite , I dont care if you people flame me now , your opnion about me has no effect in my life . I even told Jap , if you scammed me 2k or somehting hten I would of been like whatever but 20,000 is a little bit over the limit . yes I know I did make a mistake by buying the apple but Jap did PM me saying he was giving away apples since he has 18k a house and a bomy. So he did tell me he was giving away FREE apples.

got proof?

PlazmaX · #46 01-15-2002, 05:53 AM

Jap is right that is not scamming but oh well like stefan or anyone will listen loriel is just a loser power abuser, and stefans little play thing

Jap · #47 01-15-2002, 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by Infamy

i didn't take any actions i'm only explaining the facts.

I meant A person with 20k by saying "your".

_AcidIce_ · #48 01-15-2002, 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

got proof?

4 witnesses enough proof ? .. even though more did PM me saying they would be a witness I only used 4.

Infamy · #49 01-15-2002, 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

I meant A person with 20k by saying "your".

oh, i knew that

Neglegence2002 · #50 01-15-2002, 05:55 AM

Yea i waz like is whoa, when i seen that apple leave the stand of japs, i knew it waz Acid casue hes the only one at the market with 20k, ***** and then i realized that it dont matter if that waz a legal scam, its waz 20k i mean cmon......it would take someone like months to earn back, so cut him some slack

Correction · #51 01-15-2002, 05:55 AM

i think they should give jap his cash back and then give me 20k too

Jap · #52 01-15-2002, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
INfamy is rite , I dont care if you people flame me now , your opnion about me has no effect in my life . I even told Jap , if you scammed me 2k or somehting hten I would of been like whatever but 20,000 is a little bit over the limit . yes I know I did make a mistake by buying the apple but Jap did PM me saying he was giving away apples since he has 18k a house and a bomy. So he did tell me he was giving away FREE apples.

I said nothing about, or anything like that.

_AcidIce_ · #53 01-15-2002, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002
Yea i waz like is whoa, when i seen that apple leave the stand of japs, i knew it waz Acid casue hes the only one at the market with 20k, ***** and then i realized that it dont matter if that waz a legal scam, its waz 20k i mean cmon......it would take someone like months to earn back, so cut him some slack

Thank you.

Falcor · #54 01-15-2002, 05:57 AM

Hmm, Maybe price limits are in order? Certian items can be sold in a price range from like 0 - whatever. Would make it near imposible to scam.

Jap · #55 01-15-2002, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
4 witnesses enough proof ? .. even though more did PM me saying they would be a witness I only used 4.

Witnesses to the apple buy? I'm not denying I sold you the apple for 20k.

PlazmaX · #56 01-15-2002, 05:58 AM

WTF! omg witnesses can't do crap... He never said they were free so was your own fault you lost the money...If you were that stupid to lose 20k on a apple you do not deserve 20k at all

_AcidIce_ · #57 01-15-2002, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

I said nothing about, or anything like that.

You did not ? I asked you about buying a shogun and you said , maybe rite after I give away these apples for free /Im too lazy to bake them. I responded by saying ok ,I will bake them for you if you want. and then you responded with , No I have enough money, 18k , bomy and a house.

Jap · #58 01-15-2002, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

I find the gralat value to be very important and this situation. There is a large difference in scamming someone for let's say 100 gralat, and scamming them for 20,000 gralat.

Without knowing the gralat value, its legal. I just dont get why gralat value makes it illegal or legal.

enishi-2001 · #59 01-15-2002, 06:01 AM

erm jap 20,000 is a bit to much thats way past the line considering the fact you already have 18,000. what do you need it all for ? scamming is bad

_AcidIce_ · #60 01-15-2002, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

Without knowing the gralat value, its legal. I just dont get why gralat value makes it illegal or legal.

Cause 20k is not a simple amount of money , It takes well over months of time to make that much money. I know its fake money but still , it was my time put into Graal to get it . People like you make Graal horrible.

Psyker · #61 01-15-2002, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by enishi-2001
scamming is bad

so?

spi · #62 01-15-2002, 06:02 AM

jap should get moneys bc

Jap · #63 01-15-2002, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
You did not ? I asked you about buying a shogun and you said , maybe rite after I give away these apples for free /Im too lazy to bake them. I responded by saying ok ,I will bake them for you if you want. and then you responded with , No I have enough money, 18k , bomy and a house.

What dont you get? I could say you said "I will buy it for 20k". In a PM. But history can be edited. So, it means nothing. I still deny that fact that I "said" those things.

Jap · #64 01-15-2002, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
Cause 20k is not a simple amount of money , It takes well over months of time to make that much money. I know its fake money but still , it was my time put into Graal to get it . People like you make Graal horrible.

As I said before, if you value this money so much, then dont take the chance and buy an apple for an unknown price.

_AcidIce_ · #65 01-15-2002, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

What dont you get? I could say you said "I will buy it for 20k". In a PM. But history can be edited. So, it means nothing. I still deny that fact that I "said" those things.

Fighting and Flaming will not get your money back so stop trying.

Falcor · #66 01-15-2002, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Falcor
Hmm, Maybe price limits are in order? Certian items can be sold in a price range from like 0 - whatever. Would make it near imposible to scam.

ehem? Like? No Like?

_AcidIce_ · #67 01-15-2002, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

As I said before, if you value this money so much, then dont take the chance and buy an apple for an unknown price.

Jap all I have to say is Put your self in my position.

Jap · #68 01-15-2002, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
Fighting and Flaming will not get your money back so stop trying.

Then why defend yourself? If you have no worry about it, why post?

psichill · #69 01-15-2002, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Brad0629

there was no banner
it was a legal scam
and something karakaze was proud of

hehe I am a Karakze now

Jap · #70 01-15-2002, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
Jap all I have to say is Put your self in my position.

LOL! I have been in that scenario MANY MANY MANY times. You know what I do? WALK AWAY! Now there is something new eh? Or, perhaps SMART.

_AcidIce_ · #71 01-15-2002, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

Then why defend yourself? If you have no worry about it, why post?

I want to defend my self cause I don't want half of graal PMing me Flaming me , what most of your friends have been doing since a few minutes ago , My ignore list has now grew from 1 person to 15

Zurkiba · #72 01-15-2002, 06:07 AM

Give Jap his 20k back... It clearly states that Scamming IS legal. So why should the laws be twisted to fit someone who was stupid enough to buy an apple for 20k?

IN matter a fact the police are very corrupt... I'm online right now and people are getting jailed for TURNING A HACKER into the police. -_- I'm tired of paying to come to a server of corruption... I payed to come and have fun... not to come here and watch my friends get jailed for stuff that aint even in the rules -_-

Psyker · #73 01-15-2002, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by _AcidIce_
Fighting and Flaming will not get your money back so stop trying.

crying and lying shouldn't get your money back so stop talking.

_AcidIce_ · #74 01-15-2002, 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

crying and lying shouldn't get your money back so stop talking.

Crying and Lying ? I don't think I have done any of those. When Jap did it , I waited till he came online , cause I thought he wasn't that low but I guessed wrong. I simply told an admin. He saw that what I was explaning to him seemed reasonable. and I gave him a decent reason why I should get it back. Simple enough.

Zurkiba · #75 01-15-2002, 06:13 AM

So your saying all I have to do is be a stupid person like you... waste all my money on an apple and I can tell an admin to get my money back? It wont work -_-

Charles · #76 01-15-2002, 06:13 AM

Let me just say this. Ok, so AcidIce got scammed.

So? I can agree that 20k is a lot to get scammed out of, but a scam is a scam.

No precident was set for how much u could get scammed out of.

It aint Jap's fault that he was givin the perfect opportunity.

I have been scammed before. I supposedly had an Admin watching. But I got scammed and the dude that was watching wasnt even paying attention.

Stefan said that if I could present enough proof, he would help me. I had the exact time(sort of) of the money exchange for the Grelat Logg and a screen shot. Did that help? no.

Did I get over it? Yep! Did I get any help from Loriel when he said my proof may be good enough, but I had to show it to stefan? NO!

So why can Loriel intervene for this, but not for others?

I THINK THE MONEY SHOULD BE GIVEN BACK TO JAP BECOUSE HE BECAME THE RIGHTFULL OWNER!!!

A scam is a Scam and yall know it.

Jap · #77 01-15-2002, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

crying and lying shouldn't get your money back so stop talking.

Really. You got your money back by somehow, so maybe I may get MY money back.

DragonX2 · #78 01-15-2002, 06:15 AM

Just give Jap his money back!(_#%*!@#%
Acid should just go work again, who cares if it was 20k!
If you THINK they are free bring 0g thats all!
BE SMART ARGH
Don't bring 20k and think you won't get scammed, store your money somewhere and maybe you won't lose 20k!

AlkarenHyralt · #79 01-15-2002, 06:16 AM

I've been informed I am a pathetic ***** and deserve to die. oyey, fun.

Psyker · #80 01-15-2002, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

Really. You got your money back by somehow, so maybe I may get MY money back.

i wasn't referring to you.