Staff 2001/2002 (Not Saying Anything Bad About Them)

Spanko · #1 01-08-2002, 12:08 AM

I have talked to many people and we all think that 2001/2002 staff should be different people. Stefan should hire different staff for either 2001 or 2002. Not have them staff on both. Like BirdBird is Head Level Maker on 2001 but he is making levels for 2002. If Stefan were to hire new staff for 2001 alot more could be done then what is done. Please put your comments on this matter.

AlexH · #2 01-08-2002, 12:12 AM

I agree.
The graal 2002 staff has been choosen and many of those people worked or still do work for graal 2001 but they are not adding anything to 2001 because they are working on 2k2.
Stefan should hire someone like he has done with classic hiring Tyhm to conrol it.
This should happen with 2k1 and the person hired should have no other staffjobs anywhere else besides 2k1 and they are in complete control like Tyhm is with classic.

Zelgadis_Geywords · #3 01-08-2002, 12:13 AM

Even though I do not like Graal2001 or for that matter Graal2002, it does make sense to adhere to one project.

AlkarenHyralt · #4 01-08-2002, 12:14 AM

Almost the entire staff for 2002 will be new people. But yes there is some current 2001 staff working on it as well. To ignore all the really talented people would be folly. But, from my understanding you probably won't be seeing my as police chief on 2002.

Spanko · #5 01-08-2002, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
But yes there is some current 2001 staff working on it as well.

How so? 99% of the people who work on 2002 also work on 2001.

AlkarenHyralt · #6 01-08-2002, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Spanko

How so? 99% of the people who work on 2002 also work on 2001.

Hyperbole.

But it is because they are very talented people.

yoshee15 · #7 01-08-2002, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by Spanko

How so? 99% of the people who work on 2002 also work on 2001.

actually not even close

Shorty2Dope · #8 01-08-2002, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by yoshee15

actually not even close

85%

Googi · #9 01-08-2002, 12:33 AM

....Good staff is incredibly hard to find, just look at the staff we have now

Kohojogo · #10 01-08-2002, 12:34 AM

Well i gusse it just because that Stefan know them from Graal2001 that he do it this way...
But still if no one get work at Graal2001 then the sever maybe close

Is it only me that not can see trees and houses at Graal2002?

AlkarenHyralt · #11 01-08-2002, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Shorty2Dope

85%

I'd say maybe 10%.

Kohojogo · #12 01-08-2002, 12:45 AM

Shorty2Dope · #13 01-08-2002, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

I'd say maybe 10%.

not really.. I seen alot of people in 2k2 from 2k1.. Someone make a list of the people we know works on g2k2.

Spanko · #14 01-08-2002, 12:57 AM

Birdbird
Zorro
Krakken (Used too)
GodSpeed (Used too)
Er1c (Used too, Might still)
Death Scythe(sp?)
SLP (Used too)
KJL (Used too)
Fry (Used too)

Thats all I can remember but most of the Used too people did work on 2001 at one time and have a pretty powerful job. But they all pretty much quit them for 2002.

Kohojogo · #15 01-08-2002, 01:04 AM

Nice were u got that from?

Spanko · #16 01-08-2002, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by Kohojogo
Nice were u got that from?

?

konidias · #17 01-08-2002, 01:14 AM

Don't forget Loriel and Stefan.

I think the whole point of this is that it's focused around staff that do things for the server such as graphics, npcs, and levels. Not staff like events team and police.

What is the point of having events team and police if there is no one playing on the server due to lack of updates? :o

Spanko · #18 01-08-2002, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Don't forget Loriel and Stefan.

I think the whole point of this is that it's focused around staff that do things for the server such as graphics, npcs, and levels. Not staff like events team and police.

What is the point of having events team and police if there is no one playing on the server due to lack of updates? :o

Ok I don't like Konidas that much but I think he could turn around 2001. If Stefan just gave it to him like he gave Tyhm Classic I think Konidas could do best.

ZanderX · #19 01-08-2002, 01:35 AM

There are not enough talented trustworthy people with the heart and will to work on both 2002, 2001, and other Graal projects. They are in short supply.

konidias · #20 01-08-2002, 01:51 AM

At one point I had NC, RC, and FTP.. I never went on a corrupt rampage deleting files, or snuck out info to people about new projects. Yet I get mistreated by higher admins, isn't Graal lovely?

Spanko · #21 01-08-2002, 01:55 AM

I never had NC, RC, and FTP.. I never went on a corrupt rampage , or snuck out info to people about new projects. Yet I get mistreated by higher admins/lower admins, isn't Graal lovely?

Spanko · #22 01-08-2002, 01:59 AM

But Konidas remember this the "higher people" of Graal think there cool. But yet they have been playing Graal for 2-3 years. So that tells you they have no social life at all. So let them be happy and cool on this game. B/c while the rest of us our out having fun with our real friends they can be treating other players bad on a game.

craig_bomy · #23 01-08-2002, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by Spanko

Ok I don't like Konidas that much but I think he could turn around 2001. If Stefan just gave it to him like he gave Tyhm Classic I think Konidas could do best.

id love that if he did give it to konidias

freddyfox · #24 01-08-2002, 02:44 AM

To quote a famous saying:

I'm a lumberjack, and that's okay.

G_yoshi · #25 01-08-2002, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox
To quote a famous saying:

I'm a lumberjack, and that's okay.

MONTY PYTHON!!!!

Loriel · #26 01-08-2002, 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
At one point I had NC, RC, and FTP.. I never went on a corrupt rampage deleting files, or snuck out info to people about new projects. Yet I get mistreated by higher admins, isn't Graal lovely?

Since you quit because you I didn't help you with scripting, you are just saying mean stuff about Graal.
You were quite rude to other staff, I think Birdbird told me about you deleting his NPC (the script, not out of the account) once.

AlkarenHyralt · #27 01-08-2002, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

MONTY PYTHON!!!!

<3 for Monty Python.

manton · #28 01-08-2002, 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

<3 for Monty Python.

G_yoshi · #29 01-08-2002, 04:02 AM

Tyhm · #30 01-08-2002, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH
I agree.
The graal 2002 staff has been choosen and many of those people worked or still do work for graal 2001 but they are not adding anything to 2001 because they are working on 2k2.
Stefan should hire someone like he has done with classic hiring Tyhm to conrol it.
This should happen with 2k1 and the person hired should have no other staffjobs anywhere else besides 2k1 and they are in complete control like Tyhm is with classic.

Except I'm not in complete control of Classic. I just make levels, and I'm not particularly afraid of being fired. But the GPs don't listen to me, the FAQs don't listen to me, it's not like I can replace the GP Admin and set policy on who can do local bannings.
What we need is Galen. Now that guy had power and authority. If he said something, even if he didn't have the power to do it, it'd get done.

Er1c · #31 01-08-2002, 04:34 AM

I believe that people should dedicate their time to one server and not two, but if you are staff on two you need to contribute to them both. This was a big problem we had with konidias, he didn't do one thing for 2002 because he claimed to be working on 2001 all the time. Eventually he was banned from 2002, but that was after he sat on RC durring the first preview trying to take credit for other's work.
Birdbird and Loriel, on the other hand, are contributing to both servers. If staff is capable of doing this, why not let them?

And btw, I never worked on 2001, I just had global RC for a little while to help with account problems, and made that leet nuke NPC for the armmagedon

konidias · #32 01-08-2002, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by Er1c
I believe that people should dedicate their time to one server and not two, but if you are staff on two you need to contribute to them both. This was a big problem we had with konidias, he didn't do one thing for 2002 because he claimed to be working on 2001 all the time. Eventually he was banned from 2002, but that was after he sat on RC durring the first preview trying to take credit for other's work.
Birdbird and Loriel, on the other hand, are contributing to both servers. If staff is capable of doing this, why not let them?

And btw, I never worked on 2001, I just had global RC for a little while to help with account problems, and made that leet nuke NPC for the armmagedon

Now you make lies about me? I quit 2k2 and then my 2k2 staff account was disabled.. how is that banned from 2k2 because I didn't do work, you're such a prick sometimes it's unbelievable.

I wasn't taking credit for others work, you're so full of yourself, I HATE 2k2 and everything about it, why the hell would I claim I made stuff for 2k2, I would rather not tell people I was 2k2 staff. You need to get less big headedness and more brain.

Birdbird_0 · #33 01-08-2002, 04:39 AM

I disagree a bit, I mean, Konidias even saw my e-mail's for elvel makers and adminted that almost all of them suck, he saw my side of the lat staff, The fact is, There are few people in graal that can do work, that are trusted, and have good taste and talent willing to work for free.

Konidias is very talented, but has very very strong opinyons and somtimes that got him too agravated and or upset, Konidias and I managed to work that out and work together to a degree.

People have different levels of tolerance, but some have too much or too little.

Torankusu · #34 01-08-2002, 04:43 AM

Isn't there already a thread about this...?

Er1c · #35 01-08-2002, 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

Now you make lies about me? I quit 2k2 and then my 2k2 staff account was disabled.. how is that banned from 2k2 because I didn't do work, you're such a prick sometimes it's unbelievable.

I wasn't taking credit for others work, you're so full of yourself, I HATE 2k2 and everything about it, why the hell would I claim I made stuff for 2k2, I would rather not tell people I was 2k2 staff. You need to get less big headedness and more brain.

Yeah, you quit, and then you were banned :o
You gotta calm down there, big guy

konidias · #36 01-08-2002, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by Er1c
Yeah, you quit, and then you were banned :o
You gotta calm down there, big guy

You said I was banned because I didn't do work.. I was banned because I quit. I also don't want to take credit for your shitty work, but thanks anyway.

Er1c · #37 01-08-2002, 04:49 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

You said I was banned because I didn't do work.. I was banned because I quit. I also don't want to take credit for your shitty work, but thanks anyway.

UHOH, someone's alittle cranky today =P
Really konidias, you need to calm down and stop trying to blame all of lifes problems on graal.

yoshee15 · #38 01-08-2002, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
I disagree a bit, I mean, Konidias even saw my e-mail's for elvel makers and adminted that almost all of them suck, he saw my side of the lat staff, The fact is, There are few people in graal that can do work, that are trusted, and have good taste and talent willing to work for free.

Konidias is very talented, but has very very strong opinyons and somtimes that got him too agravated and or upset, Konidias and I managed to work that out and work together to a degree.

People have different levels of tolerance, but some have too much or too little.

i remember a long time back attempting to try out but i just get ignored, i find staff who do that piss me off the most, not caring about others

Er1c · #39 01-08-2002, 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
You need to get less big headedness and more brain.

Me, less "big headedness"? You couldn't even refrain from putting your name on that new CS you made for 2001!

Birdbird_0 · #40 01-08-2002, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by yoshee15

i remember a long time back attempting to try out but i just get ignored, i find staff who do that piss me off the most, not caring about others

I give everyone the same link, if they cannot understand and fallow the procedures on there than they are not fit to be part of the team
http://birdbird0.darktechgameing.com/levelmaker.html

I usualy ignore the applications with no attachments and sutpid remarks on them, and also, I don't reply to people not accepted unless they seriously did answer all the questions and did try their hardest.