Regarding the Leadership of Samurai... - Page 2

feivel · #41 01-06-2002, 09:16 AM

Yes but Ghost Pirate is the one that makes, determines, and approves the wagers. And I said that they have no power, before they were elected emperors, its no my fault Ghost Pirate ignores me!

ZanderX · #42 01-06-2002, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
Yes but Ghost Pirate is the one that makes, determines, and approves the wagers. And I said that they have no power, before they were elected emperors, its no my fault Ghost Pirate ignores me!

Too bad. The moment they became "Emperor", they gained power. You cannot, without military force, keep them from having that power.

You made the mistake of not seeing the consequences of your actions, and now you are paying for it.

feivel · #43 01-06-2002, 09:18 AM

Your wrong, in Wing's dynasty Emperor had power, when i took over I was supposed to determine who power goes to,
and that would be me, the Shogun. How do you think it happened in real life, Shoguns took over and took away the emperors power, now in "our little RPing world" the conditions were said, and i fulfilled them, therefore i should be Shogun, and have absolute power

IceHawk · #44 01-06-2002, 09:18 AM

Oh and Dashi, before my warriors cut off your head, if you try to run up to me and **stabs a posion dagger in ur back** to me, i'm not going to give it up.

feivel · #45 01-06-2002, 09:21 AM

Kamuii once again you are wrong,
you dont know what you speak of,
as soon as we won the rebellion, I was to be Shogun, and leader, which would mean I have absolute power, and Emperor was to be just a title, they dont automatically have power through a title, unless I give them that power, no matter how you look at it, ghost pirate set certain conditions has to be met before i became leader, those conditions ere met, and i was not made leader.

IceHawk · #46 01-06-2002, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
Kamuii once again you are wrong,
you dont know what you speak of,
as soon as we won the rebellion, I was to be Shogun, and leader, which would mean I have absolute power, and Emperor was to be just a title, they dont automatically have power through a title, unless I give them that power, no matter how you look at it, ghost pirate set certain conditions has to be met before i became leader, those conditions ere met, and i was not made leader.

YOU ARE NOT THE LEADER, I gave you a chance to be a Samurai Warrior, but you blew it, Good riddance.

feivel · #47 01-06-2002, 09:24 AM

Acutally Icehawk dont be an ass, thats not the whole thing to it...
so go away, ghst pirate said we could win with poison

feivel · #48 01-06-2002, 09:25 AM

Why should I be a Samurai warrior, im supposed to be leader, you have no right to any power

Crono Illusion · #49 01-06-2002, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
Why should I be a Samurai warrior, im supposed to be leader, you have no right to any power

YOU ARE NOT LEADER. YOU WERE TRICKED, AND BACKSTABBED. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR GODDAMN THICK SKULL.

LET US JUST END THIS NOW.

CowgirlBebop · #50 01-06-2002, 09:29 AM

and can i get a whoop whoop in the house

TrueHeaT · #51 01-06-2002, 09:29 AM

IceHawk · #52 01-06-2002, 09:30 AM

He may have said you could poison, but I'm pretty sure what you did DOES NOT COUNT.

It's over now anyways, go get killed by my warriors, who will get rewarded if they kill you.

feivel · #53 01-06-2002, 09:31 AM

Who was i tricked and backstabbed?
I was no way backstabbed in an RP fashion,
I was kicked out by a leader, who was not supposed to be able to remove anybody, Ghost Pirate didnt read any of my PMs until after it all happened

Crono Illusion · #54 01-06-2002, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by CowgirlBebop
and can i get a whoop whoop in the house

IceHawk · #55 01-06-2002, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
Who was i tricked and backstabbed?
I was no way backstabbed in an RP fashion,
I was kicked out by a leader, who was not supposed to be able to remove anybody, Ghost Pirate didnt read any of my PMs until after it all happened

IT IS OVER NOW WHINER BOY.

feivel · #56 01-06-2002, 09:35 AM

Im not whining, i am right, and i have a point. It should not be over, there is no reason you should be leader, and there is no reason for me not to be leader.

IceHawk · #57 01-06-2002, 09:37 AM

Yes, you are whining, and no you are not leader.

CowgirlBebop · #58 01-06-2002, 09:37 AM

in all my life... iver never seen so much complaints, swears, and arguing on a forum... this makes a antichrist forum look good

Beowulf2 · #59 01-06-2002, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
Im not whining, i am right, and i have a point. It should not be over, there is no reason you should be leader, and there is no reason for me not to be leader.

There are plenty of reasons you should not be leader.

#1. When TrueHeaT (ORIGINAL EMPEROR, WHO SHOULD ALSO HAVE FINAL JUDGEMENT OVER WHO IS EMPEROR) was emperor, he had Gameo as his Shogun. Gameo had no real power, and was not emperor. Following suit, you should not be leader either.

#2. In feudal Japan, the Shogun were the commanders of the armies of the different sects of Japan. They were not ALWAYS the emperors as well. In Graal's system, Emperor holds power over the Shogun. Therefore, you do not have absolute power.

#3. You are an idiot. You can not run a kingdom properly, and seeing how ALL of the other kingdom leaders show no support for you being in charge of Samurai, you can not be in charge.

END

Crono Illusion · #60 01-06-2002, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by CowgirlBebop
in all my life... iver never seen so much complaints, swears, and arguing on a forum... this makes a antichrist forum look good

I highly recommend you stay away from the internet if this place's content (besides stupidity) offends you.

This forum is really, really tame compared to some others.

feivel · #61 01-06-2002, 09:51 AM

Beowulf you see you are wrong there too,
in real life there was only one Shogun, he was not the emperor but he held supreme power in the land. At that time the Imperial Court held no real power. And when Trueheat was Emperor he held power, he was the leader, and he chose not to give his Shogun power. Now I had a rebellion. This has been going on since about a week and a half ago, and when i spoke to ghost pirate at the start he said "if wing dies, you will be leader, if you die, Wing remains leader" Well guess what, Wing died and that made me leader. Well now that I was supposed to be leader, I made myself shogun, and revoked imperial powers, guess what, I can do that, wanna know why, becuase I am the leader! But Ghost Pirate didnt bother to read any of my PMs, hgave power to the wrong people, and i was removed. And you know what, I dont give a rats ass what any other kingdom leaders want, Zormite probly doesnt care, Dustari is was our enemy anyway, and Ghost Pirate is supposed to be impartial. And anyway leaders arent chosen by a vote from other kingdoms, i won fairly, and should be leader.

psihunter · #62 01-06-2002, 09:51 AM

I personally like to see all the orgianl kingdom leaders back in control of their kingdoms

I am not changing what has happen..TrueHeaT, IceHawk, and Rinko are the new leaders of Samurai...and thats FINAL

feivel · #63 01-06-2002, 09:53 AM

Ghost Pirate that makes no sense,
tell me why they are the new leaders,
you told me if I win the rebellion I am the leader,
guess what,
I won, and guess who you made the leaders? Rinko, Icehawk, and treuheat.

Beowulf2 · #64 01-06-2002, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
Ghost Pirate that makes no sense,
tell me why they are the new leaders,
you told me if I win the rebellion I am the leader,
guess what,
I won, and guess who you made the leaders? Rinko, Icehawk, and treuheat.

You sound exactly like a 5-year-old asking why his mother didn't buy him a toy.

Brad0629 · #65 01-06-2002, 09:56 AM

HEY I AM RELIKO
I KILL WING
I PUT LYNDZEY AS EMPRESS AND ICEHAWK IS KEWL AS EMPEROR
JUST SHUTUP DASHI
I KILLED WING AND I SAY THIS

FIN

CowgirlBebop · #66 01-06-2002, 09:58 AM

feivel · #67 01-06-2002, 10:07 AM

I have a point,
I have been working towards something from even before this rebellion,
and I finally win, and for some bogus reason Ghost Pirate adds people as leaders that arent supposed to be leaders, one of which is part of the army the rebellion overthrew,
and the other is someone who hasnt been involved with Samurai in ages, they had no rights to the leadership, and i did

milotheman · #68 01-06-2002, 10:08 AM

Ghost Pirate made Samurai better

FatherDante · #69 01-06-2002, 10:11 AM

Whoever did this misunderstood something. Dashi is the SHOGUN of the samurai. He is the leader, not the emperor.

SabreKnot · #70 01-06-2002, 10:15 AM

we burnt the Samurai home today, I didnt get to take any pictures though

feivel · #71 01-06-2002, 10:17 AM

Eactly! I am Shogun, and leader, and Rinko is empress, and i choose the members etc...
where the hell icehawk and trueheat came into this beats me

FatherDante · #72 01-06-2002, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by gozen

WRONG! The Shogun was the master of a dojo and kinda well we used it as the Leader of Military i am a grandson of TruHeats hehe

Gozen, that's completely innacurate. uh... that's all

IceHawk · #73 01-06-2002, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by SabreKnot
we burnt the Samurai home today, I didnt get to take any pictures though

.....?

feivel · #74 01-06-2002, 10:52 AM

Oh yeah and not like anyone cares but Ghost Pirate admitted i was the rightful leader, and that there was a misunderstanding, but there wasnt anything he could do about it anymore, cus he cant add tags anymore

Brad0629 · #75 01-06-2002, 11:58 AM

I killed the emperor...Im wondering where my say comes in it...hahaha I dont care though.

feivel · #76 01-06-2002, 12:00 PM

You were the assasin, therefore there would have been some reward, but my power was taken mistakenly..
and the new government probly liked wing more then he liked himself.. so..

slp · #77 01-06-2002, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by feivel
You dont have to accept me,
the whole point of the rebellion was to take over,
and to throw out Wing from power,
and for me to be leader,
you and icehawk have no place in this,
and hijacked it from me

i dunno who you are, i dont care about 2001's kindom's nor it, but wing is great and should still be emperor.

Echos · #78 01-06-2002, 12:34 PM

Please keep in mind, this is Graal, not Japan, and if the Shogun can take power from Emperors, why can't it be reversed? Keep in mind what I started this post with before you answer.

Metal-Slug · #79 01-06-2002, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT

Oh. I thought shogun were just in charge of different peices of land around the country, and the emperor and empress were in charge of the whole country

that whould be a daiymo

Shorty2Dope · #80 01-06-2002, 12:59 PM

Dash should be leader. I will be glad to help you take samurai over again dash. I am probably one of there best warriors, though I do not play graal much anymore.

All this looks like to me is.. ghost giving abuncha friends or more 'popular' dudes power and what they want. When someone is the leader of a kingdom, he owns it, he makes the rules now. He is the leader. Your all messin it up and samurai is crap now. Ice you can bring your best warriors after me, I will bring their heads to you before I slice your throat.