Dino Valley - Unfair

Cyber-X · #1 12-14-2001, 11:33 PM

Well, I was injusticed a lot of times

in that server that I don't want to talk now because who knows that I didnt do anything, knows...
Ok, I made a lot of levels to Dino Valley too, and now, I mean, months ago I wanted these levels removed... But any of the Staff did something... So, I have the rights to the levels, and I WANT it removed as soon as possible, otherwise I will talk with Stefan to do something... Also the onlinestartlocal...

Thanks for nothing...

vovavziggy · #2 12-14-2001, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber-X
Well, I was injusticed a lot of times in that server that I don't want to talk now because who knows that I didnt do anything, knows...
Ok, I made a lot of levels to Dino Valley too, and now, I mean, months ago I wanted these levels removed... But any of the Staff did something... So, I have the rights to the levels, and I WANT it removed as soon as possible, otherwise I will talk with Stefan to do something... Also the onlinestartlocal...
Thanks for nothing...

Well, I was fired from an Owner position there (?), So bleh!

Edit:
We still don't like each other, right?

Cyber-X · #3 12-15-2001, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vovavziggy

Well, I was fired from an Owner position there (?), So bleh!

Edit:
We still don't like each other, right?

No, vova... I always liked you man... it was you that didnt understand me...

vovavziggy · #4 12-15-2001, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Cyber-X

No, vova... I always liked you man... it was you that didnt understand me...

Well....we coooould say that...

TDO2000 · #5 12-15-2001, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber-X
Well, I was injusticed a lot of times in that server that I don't want to talk now because who knows that I didnt do anything, knows...
Ok, I made a lot of levels to Dino Valley too, and now, I mean, months ago I wanted these levels removed... But any of the Staff did something... So, I have the rights to the levels, and I WANT it removed as soon as possible, otherwise I will talk with Stefan to do something... Also the onlinestartlocal...
Thanks for nothing...

um dude... after beeing uploaded and official the levels are owned by the server owner... so that some ex-staff member or person who got fired or staff can take them down after this time...
DV has the right to use your levels

vovavziggy · #6 12-15-2001, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by TDO2000

um dude... after beeing uploaded and official the levels are owned by the server owner... so that some ex-staff member or person who got fired or staff can take them down after this time...
DV has the right to use your levels

Psst: Tell me something about this:

Me and another guy were told that we were Owners, and the original owner of DV said that we were equal to him, and that the only way that an owner can be fired, is if 2 owners agree. He told us this, but didn't register any of us with graal, so then he goes ahead and fires both of us...

Dolimah · #7 12-15-2001, 12:19 AM

Yes you did big things to Dino valley and you deserve justice to be done ..
Dino Valley Staff please remove his two levels ?

And I would like all the levels I uploaded/ changed/ made/ adjusted removed also.
Would be an estimated 75 % of all levels.
Or hire Vovavziggy and Jower back as Owners and fire Aramech Lonewolf as Owner.

There you go Dino valley Staff !!
If you dont regards my wishes I will talk to you in capitals from now on.

Cha Cha
EX Owner Dino Valley
wondering if Cyber-X has a brain

Cyber-X · #8 12-15-2001, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dolimah
Yes you did big things to Dino valley and you deserve justice to be done ..
Dino Valley Staff please remove his two levels ?

And I would like all the levels I uploaded/ changed/ made/ adjusted removed also.
Would be an estimated 75 % of all levels.
Or hire Vovavziggy and Jower back as Owners and fire Aramech Lonewolf as Owner.

There you go Dino valley Staff !!
If you dont regards my wishes I will talk to you in capitals from now on.

Cha Cha
EX Owner Dino Valley
wondering if Cyber-X has a brain

Ok
I will not discuss with a person who thinks that is GOD, or something like this... even quit the server when it was needing herself...
That's my final word...

Dolimah · #9 12-15-2001, 06:57 AM

talk to Aramech lonewolf

ZanderX · #10 12-15-2001, 07:06 AM

They don't have to take down the levels. After they're uploaded, they become property of GraalOnline. You have no right to order them taken down.

zell12 · #11 12-15-2001, 07:20 AM

-er- I think there Owner has the right to em if there not copyrighted

Slaktmaster · #12 12-15-2001, 07:30 AM

Owner has no right. They are property of GraalOnline, not the server. Therefore server don't have to take down levels of purky staff quit.

sandin · #13 12-15-2001, 07:53 AM

dont take down those levels...
TAKE DOWN DV!!!!!

vovavziggy · #14 12-15-2001, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sandin
dont take down those levels...
TAKE DOWN DV!!!!!

Sadly, I'd have to say the same thing. What's happening to it now isn't going to get it ANYWHERE.

Spark910 · #15 12-15-2001, 05:41 PM

Once uplaoding stuff the property you think is yours but tis rightfully Graals and stafan and unixmad so its actualyl not even the owners.

Cyber-X · #16 12-15-2001, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by vovavziggy

Sadly, I'd have to say the same thing. What's happening to it now isn't going to get it ANYWHERE.

I have to agree with that...
Dino Valley is dead...

vovavziggy · #17 12-15-2001, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Cyber-X

I have to agree with that...
Dino Valley is dead...

And stinky, like a dead skunk

Python523 · #18 12-15-2001, 11:45 PM

DV should have been removed a long time ago, first vova was fired, then I was fired by the owner's Real life friend because I wasn't linving in germany (most of the non-germany staff have been fired), then Jower was fired and now Alexyo just quit because he was sick of all the taff treating him like trash
If servers were reviewed by how good the staff was, DV would be taken down in a heartbeat

Dolimah · #19 12-16-2001, 12:40 AM

I agree,
At the moment Dino Valley is a disgrace to all the staff who worked there .
Nobody actually plays there anymore now.
There is Nothing left of the old staff.
Aramech Lonewolf gave Dino Valley to his real life friend to play with.
That person had 25 hours online time on Dino valley when he was made Owner.
He was never in staff at Dino Valley before and he has no idea what is legal and what is not ..I have seen gani's, staff ideling with NPCs that wont let you be disconnected etc. etc.
He doesn't speak English very well while Dino Valley is an English server.

Now Vovavziggy and Jower (the people I made Owner as my replacement) were fired.

This is one of the many mistakes Aramech Lonewolf made..

Dino Valley is dying.
I say take Dino Valley down.

Cha Cha
EX-Owner Dino valley

sandin · #20 12-16-2001, 12:57 AM

Since that German change DV is dead
we are all agree with take it down

also vovavziggy and Jower didnt make
anything for DV
they just make DV Die

Dolimah · #21 12-16-2001, 12:59 AM

Vova and jower really didn't really get the chance to do anything Sandin.

Cha Cha

sandin · #22 12-16-2001, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dolimah
Vova and jower really didn't really get the chance to do anything Sandin.

Cha Cha

Really?
and those more than 3 moths as Owner?
he didnt make anything?
dont make me laugh

Milkdude99 · #23 12-16-2001, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber-X
Well, I was injusticed a lot of times in that server that I don't want to talk now because who knows that I didnt do anything, knows...
Ok, I made a lot of levels to Dino Valley too, and now, I mean, months ago I wanted these levels removed... But any of the Staff did something... So, I have the rights to the levels, and I WANT it removed as soon as possible, otherwise I will talk with Stefan to do something... Also the onlinestartlocal...
Thanks for nothing...

Once you submit levels and they are put up the belong to the player world and Graal , not the person that made them for after all is this not what you were hired for? You need to read the terms on Graal about that , it states ownership belongs to Graal not you.

Python523 · #24 12-16-2001, 04:51 AM

DV sucked when I was staff then and more after I got fired. I really 'enjoyed' going through the server and viewing all the stolen NPCs that were put up in houses and other various things. I really think that instead of giving Dino Valley a warning, it should be taken down immediatly. The staff have a weapon the replaces the walk and idle gani, I've seen a few light effects in a few places, and the illegal chat scrolling weapons. I tried the weapon out when I was staff and had my RC. You put in what the text should say and it scrolls it. I've seen several staff use this to stay on serveral hours.
I think also that there should be playerworld reviewers that actually review the staff. I know for a fact that DV has a GM that's suppose to be in charge of the LATs, GATs, NATs, and GPs but the GM can't make levels or script anything. The staff should also be tested on there english speaking ability because currently, none of the owners can speak correct english.
In close, DV should be taken down for illegal weapons and horrible staff. Even though it is the owners choice on who to hire, hiring your real life friend as owner when he can't make levels or script should not be allowed. If doing that would be made illegal, it could prevent servers to fall into decay like DV has had. I hear people say there are too many servers, I think that there are too many bad servers, not too many servers. There should be a team that goes through all the servers, removes all the RC rights and changes the FTP so nothing can be changed while the review goes on, and the reviewers decide if the server should be taken down or not.

Torankusu · #25 12-16-2001, 05:04 AM

The levels should not be removed. They are sole property of the Graal Online servers (once submitted).

vovavziggy · #26 12-16-2001, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sandin

Really?
and those more than 3 moths as Owner?
he didnt make anything?
dont make me laugh

Sadly, we didn't make anything for DV, because we kept battling for it against people 24/7, for 3 months long...

Python523 · #27 12-16-2001, 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by vovavziggy

Sadly, we didn't make anything for DV, because we kept battling for it against people 24/7, for 3 months long...

More like battleing the other admins

sandin · #28 12-16-2001, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vovavziggy

Sadly, we didn't make anything for DV, because we kept battling for it against people 24/7, for 3 months long...

u didnt make anything because u are a lazy child

master_ball · #29 12-16-2001, 11:58 AM

Wanna join my server Cyber-X check out the site in my profile.Even know I didn't edit it in a while and if you go in there and I will be sorry about the N word.lol.

ninjaterd · #30 12-16-2001, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by master_ball
Wanna join my server Cyber-X check out the site in my profile.Even know I didn't edit it in a while and if you go in there and I will be sorry about the N word.lol.

all i did was say ;ur mum; to the 3rd owner guy and im in jail........so i said how better it was wen vovaziggy was one of the owners and he got jealous and letme out

master_ball · #31 12-16-2001, 12:15 PM

Yeah I was ripped off to when I was NAT on DV they ripped me off and stoled my scripts!BUT NO JAGEN GOT REHIRED AND IM NOW POOR!Thats why im making my own server.Even know it won't make it.It would be fun trying to make a server be up though.

sandin · #32 12-16-2001, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by master_ball
Yeah I was ripped off to when I was NAT on DV they ripped me off and stoled my scripts!BUT NO JAGEN GOT REHIRED AND IM NOW POOR!

omg master ball shut up!
u dindt make any script!!!!!!!

The only guy who really make things for DV was
Alzabo!
and some things (not much) by me

Python523 · #33 12-16-2001, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by master_ball
Yeah I was ripped off to when I was NAT on DV they ripped me off and stoled my scripts!BUT NO JAGEN GOT REHIRED AND IM NOW POOR!Thats why im making my own server.Even know it won't make it.It would be fun trying to make a server be up though.

Please don't drag me into your arguments, I'm in enough as it is

vovavziggy · #34 12-16-2001, 05:13 PM

Ahh, screw this, the only time DV was ever good, was when Madman and Cha Cha were running it....

vovavziggy · #35 12-16-2001, 05:53 PM

I mean, look at this

Cyber-X · #36 12-16-2001, 09:52 PM

Thanks master_ball for the invitation but I will think... because Im Police Chief at Medivia, soon Police at Graal2001, Co-Owner at Fake Islands and Game Master at Elven Lands...
Ok, I admit that Cha Cha and Madman made a lot of things to Dino Valley, and Cha Cha, Im trying now to be your friend again because I finally discovered who deleted everything from Dino Valley a lot of times...
Do you remember Diamond Slayer??? Yes.. I met him once in Graal2001 and he said that he deleted everything alot of times... and I said:
"Oh, you deleted everything and I got the injustice, right??"
he just laugh...
Cha Cha, if you dont want to believe you can ask him... his email: [email protected]
Oh and many people believe me that I didn't do anything too... Also Alzabo... He saw what happened.... You can ask him too...
I admit too that sandin made good things too... but not only him and Alzabo... as I said, Cha Cha and Madman made alot of good things... I made good things too (I think) because when I was Owner the server had 80/90 players... and the majority of the people used to like me...
And Cha Cha, those illegal scripts that you found when I was Owner was made by Fear Chill.... not me... and I didn't see when he was uploading that... Cybnext helped me removing... I removed a lot of stolen scripts that some other person uploaded... I really don't know how the password of the FTP went to Diamond's hands... I believe that some Chief gave him because I gave the FTP password to all Admins and Chiefs... (LAT Chief/GP Chief/NAT Chief/GAT Chief and etc)... Including my Brazilian friends because the GAT Chief and the LAT Chief were brazilians...
Today, many people know me in Graal2001... and they want me as Owner again in DV.. but I dont want... That server is dead....
I just want to clear up my name because the truth is coming out...
Thanks again...

Cyber-X · #37 12-16-2001, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vovavziggy
I mean, look at this

Omg....

Oh, vova, can you plz PM me some kind of communication that I can have with you?? AIM, ICQ, e-mail or something like this....

Dolimah · #38 12-16-2001, 10:27 PM

CyberX

For the last time :
You did many things very wrong
The things other people whitnessed beside myself are:
You made yourself an Owner tag and told people Aramech made you Owner when Aramech was not around.
You uploaded copyrighted NPCs.
You put your name in scripts that were not yours.
You pretended to be Aramech Lonewolf after you had his RC account password changed (without permission of Aramech of course).
You promised people a staff position if they would give you the credits of their scripts.
I could add more to this list .
Why would I believe you. You are very good at telling lies.
You keep saying you are innocent...I think you are not.
You have a really twisted sence of whats right and wrong.
And do note that you took a lot of the fun of being Staff away for me.
Lets keep it at that.

Cha Cha
EX-Owner Dino Valley

Cyber-X · #39 12-16-2001, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dolimah
CyberX

For the last time :
You did many things very wrong
The things other people whitnessed beside myself are:
You made yourself an Owner tag and told people Aramech made you Owner when Aramech was not around.
You uploaded copyrighted NPCs.
You put your name in scripts that were not yours.
You pretended to be Aramech Lonewolf after you had his RC account password changed (without permission of Aramech of course).
You promised people a staff position if they would give you the credits of their scripts.
I could add more to this list .
Why would I believe you. You are very good at telling lies.
You keep saying you are innocent...I think you are not.
You have a really twisted sence of whats right and wrong.
And do note that you took a lot of the fun of being Staff away for me.
Lets keep it at that.

Cha Cha
EX-Owner Dino Valley

I didnt uploaded any script with my name in there without the permition of the creator of the script
I didnt pretended to be Aramech lonewof (Are you crazy?? Where did you get this?)
I've never promissed nothing to anyone
AND the information that I got from Alzabo was:
"You are the new Admin/Owner that Aramech chose, Im quitting so plz take care of the server"
Cha Cha, I can say that my account was hacked 2 or 3 times... and my PC too... I've informed you more than once that I got my PC broken or hacked... YOU remember this that I know... So these people who hacked my comp made of said things that I would never have done...
So please understand and ASK ALZABO!!! he knows everything...

Dolimah · #40 12-16-2001, 11:25 PM

Its the first time I heard your account and your computer was hacked

I could put your PMs online.
They will proove that you keep telling lies.
But i dont want to go that low.

Goodbye CyberX.

Cha Cha
Ex-Owner Dino Valley