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Old 12-09-2001, 06:56 AM
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we want the Gserver!
To stefan in the nect update i think u should bring bac the Gserver ..........for thos of u who dont know wat it is...its......a little program that let ANYONE set there own server/playerworld and UR the server......runs off ur computer.....but this time i think there should be a change........u should have it like u can upload all the gifs/png/mng levels etc all the stuff u need to be able to see everything (not pics1.png) to ur own website.........so people can play it even if there not running the gserver.....and on the www.graalonline.com website in the playerworld section have another option to pick to view the addresses to the server.... like make it so u just have to do the web address that u stored the files on.......and everytime someone adds a server the text at the graalonline web site updates and shows ur server name.......and u shoudnt be able to use the add person comand it should just use the usernames and passwords from the graalonline database ............im sure u will get much more users on to graal if u do this again with those changes
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Re: we want the Gserver!
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To stefan in the nect update i think u should bring bac the Gserver ..........for thos of u who dont know wat it is...its......a little program that let ANYONE set there own server/playerworld and UR the server......runs off ur computer.....but this time i think there should be a change........u should have it like u can upload all the gifs/png/mng levels etc all the stuff u need to be able to see everything (not pics1.png) to ur own website.........so people can play it even if there not running the gserver.....and on the www.graalonline.com website in the playerworld section have another option to pick to view the addresses to the server.... like make it so u just have to do the web address that u stored the files on.......and everytime someone adds a server the text at the graalonline web site updates and shows ur server name.......and u shoudnt be able to use the add person comand it should just use the usernames and passwords from the graalonline database ............im sure u will get much more users on to graal if u do this again with those changes
I actually agree.
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I actually agree.
well of course u agree that was the best option u could do bac in the older versions
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Stefan should just make a seperate version or something that comes with the Gserver but has like no NPC server and it's not hosted by them (the server)But maybe they could make it so that it costs money to use the Gserver or something..Like a p2p account is needed to run the server
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Stefan should just make a seperate version or something that comes with the Gserver but has like no NPC server and it's not hosted by them (the server)But maybe they could make it so that it costs money to use the Gserver or something..Like a p2p account is needed to run the server


,,,,no i think they should just use the old gserver......u obviouly never seen it.....its great ....if u want to get v1.3 u can....im not tellin were though stefan went crazy at me last time for advertising that thing.............it would be better though to host it on a website......and stefan woudnt do the other thing....cause im talking LIKE MILLIONS of people making there little 3 level server and that would take up to much space in the graal website.......or werever....so u should be able to use ur own site
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and another good thing....with it is.......if ur like making an official server to load up on the server list......u can show ur staff updates and stuff on how the servers going
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:08 AM
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:14 AM
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Deja vu?
As Lord Helmut put it...:
Mastercola: Nice job on that quest mom
Mom: Thanks hunny, couldnt have done it without those wonderful NPCs you made.
Mastercola: It was nothing! You should see my upcomming rupee dropper. I got the script from some message board.
Mom: Hunny you are so smart
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Sister: I want a bomy
Mastercola: I dont have that script yet
Sister: *Cries*
Mom: Hunny, Please get that script soon. Its your sisters birthday and she needs a bomy.

And so on...
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I think you forgot that Graal isn't Cyberjoeuer's gift to the world to let us run free with and do whatever we want with. They are not responsible to us to make us have fun, they are responsible to their checkbooks. The idea can't happen.

still they might let us cause the more free accoiunts sign up the more people have of signing up for p2p accountand there will be the usual restrictions like longer waiting for pms to show....,no that colour effects thing and all that other restrictions
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Re: Deja vu?
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As Lord Helmut put it...:
Mastercola: Nice job on that quest mom
Mom: Thanks hunny, couldnt have done it without those wonderful NPCs you made.
Mastercola: It was nothing! You should see my upcomming rupee dropper. I got the script from some message board.
Mom: Hunny you are so smart
Father: Quit hitting me
Sister: I want a bomy
Mastercola: I dont have that script yet
Sister: *Cries*
Mom: Hunny, Please get that script soon. Its your sisters birthday and she needs a bomy.

And so on...

well in graal 1.3 u can actually make it so u can play 4 player split screen......they dont have that option anymore.......
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:17 AM
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I for one don't need a gserver
personnally neither do you
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:18 AM
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Re: Re: Deja vu?
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well in graal 1.3 u can actually make it so u can play 4 player split screen......they dont have that option anymore.......
Stefan took it out, so he could concentrate more on the online programming.
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I for one don't need a gserver
personnally neither do you

wat r u talking about....it was the best thing they had on graal
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:19 AM
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wat r u talking about....it was the best thing they had on graal
You don't need the GServer.
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:30 AM
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Re: Deja vu?
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As Lord Helmut put it...:
Mastercola: Nice job on that quest mom
Mom: Thanks hunny, couldnt have done it without those wonderful NPCs you made.
Mastercola: It was nothing! You should see my upcomming rupee dropper. I got the script from some message board.
Mom: Hunny you are so smart
Father: Quit hitting me
Sister: I want a bomy
Mastercola: I dont have that script yet
Sister: *Cries*
Mom: Hunny, Please get that script soon. Its your sisters birthday and she needs a bomy.

And so on...
lol i remember that
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:36 AM
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2/3/4 mode was kinda incompatible to
the daynight stuff and to online mode,
so it was better to take it out so we can
improve the online mode better
(yes i know it was a nice feature for offline players)

There were actually never gservers that were
allowed to use in the internet. Even in the old days
not many people have ran their own servers,
it's not easy to run a server that is up 24/7 and
supports enough bandwidth and players
(at least for normal people; companys can buy it).
The other problem is that it's hard to control
the content, make money with it, and protect
the gserver code if everyone has the executable
which can be disassembled.
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yea it would be very easy to decompile it and rewrite the program to your own liking meaning chaos. Also, seeing as how it is part of graal, if someone hosted a server with illegal material stefan, UM and cyberjouer could be held responsible.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stefan
2/3/4 mode was kinda incompatible to
the daynight stuff and to online mode,
so it was better to take it out so we can
improve the online mode better
(yes i know it was a nice feature for offline players)

There were actually never gservers that were
allowed to use in the internet. Even in the old days
not many people have ran their own servers,
it's not easy to run a server that is up 24/7 and
supports enough bandwidth and players
(at least for normal people; companys can buy it).
The other problem is that it's hard to control
the content, make money with it, and protect
the gserver code if everyone has the executable
which can be disassembled.

dam....that would have been a good feature though
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yea it would be very easy to decompile it and rewrite the program to your own liking meaning chaos. Also, seeing as how it is part of graal, if someone hosted a server with illegal material stefan, UM and cyberjouer could be held responsible.
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dam....that would have been a good feature though
okies, now please delete your other thread which contains only the link to this thread
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okies, now please delete your other thread which contains only the link to this thread

i think stefan already did!
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He should just make a little program that you can connect to online and only the person who is running the program can play it so they can test there stuff out to see if it work online.
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Re: we want the Gserver!
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To stefan in the nect update i think u should bring bac the Gserver ..........for thos of u who dont know wat it is...its......a little program that let ANYONE set there own server/playerworld and UR the server......runs off ur computer.....but this time i think there should be a change........u should have it like u can upload all the gifs/png/mng levels etc all the stuff u need to be able to see everything (not pics1.png) to ur own website.........so people can play it even if there not running the gserver.....and on the www.graalonline.com website in the playerworld section have another option to pick to view the addresses to the server.... like make it so u just have to do the web address that u stored the files on.......and everytime someone adds a server the text at the graalonline web site updates and shows ur server name.......and u shoudnt be able to use the add person comand it should just use the usernames and passwords from the graalonline database ............im sure u will get much more users on to graal if u do this again with those changes
GServer was bad, anyone could get a playerworld.
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2/3/4 mode was kinda incompatible to
the daynight stuff and to online mode,
so it was better to take it out so we can
improve the online mode better
(yes i know it was a nice feature for offline players)

There were actually never gservers that were
allowed to use in the internet. Even in the old days
not many people have ran their own servers,
it's not easy to run a server that is up 24/7 and
supports enough bandwidth and players
(at least for normal people; companys can buy it).
The other problem is that it's hard to control
the content, make money with it, and protect
the gserver code if everyone has the executable
which can be disassembled.
If you people let out something like the gserver for people like ninjaterd said, I would be able to host it 24/7 on a 400 download kb cap and a 300 upload kb cap... That will be cool if you gave something out where we could host are own playerworld if the person that wants to host it meets the requirements.
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2/3/4 mode was kinda incompatible to
the daynight stuff and to online mode,
so it was better to take it out so we can
improve the online mode better
(yes i know it was a nice feature for offline players)

There were actually never gservers that were
allowed to use in the internet. Even in the old days
not many people have ran their own servers,
it's not easy to run a server that is up 24/7 and
supports enough bandwidth and players
(at least for normal people; companys can buy it).
The other problem is that it's hard to control
the content, make money with it, and protect
the gserver code if everyone has the executable
which can be disassembled.
how much does the updated Gserver sell for, if so a company wanted to buy it?
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Old 12-09-2001, 01:41 PM
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a big number of Euro cash... more then 10000 I think...
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Ehh wasn't gserver halted because people could run their own non-cyberjouer affiliated servers and Stefan and Unixmad wouldn't make any of the profits?

Heh heh, really, what would Stefan get out of it.. you say more customers? But why.. if the person were to change the gserver to allow anyone to play on it (nonp2p included) and ran it all for free or something, Stefan would lose customers (especially if the server was the latest version and could do npc server and all)

I personally think it would be cool to rent a server and pay cyberjouer monthly for it, and you could make a profit depending on how many players you get on average for the month.. or maybe how many accounts were created (upgraded) to play on your server.
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Actually someone is doing a visual basic 1.3.9 Gserver.

It won't be copyrighted by cyberjouer and the players
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Old 12-09-2001, 05:50 PM
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I believe we need something to test P2P scripts with.

Maybe a special server that allows up to 3 or 4 people connected and can only use 25 levels at a time and only 4 NPC in databse?
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