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Old 08-29-2001, 09:50 AM
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Graalian Stock Market

I think it's time we had a job that didn't require the constant repetition of a button (mining, fishing, farming, baking etc) but something that requires maybe a little more risk and skill.

If we had a stock market for Graal it would also put rich peoples' money to use and also the poor's. They invest in the stock market and depending on the actions they take they can get richer or they can lose it all.

When I say buy stocks it doesn't mean that you can buy 10 stocks at 5 gralats each and the next day they go up 50 gralats, that would totally destroy the economy. Also the stocks would change daily as to slow the process down a lot. I was thinking something along the lines, if, someone invests into stocks at 2 gralats per share and the next day the stock goes up by 0.12 gralat or goes down by 0.06 gralat, not a big change at all. Then, if someone wants to buy in or sell their stocks you can round the cash off to the nearest gralat.

With this you cannot get rich really fast in one day, it would take a lot of time and a lot of right moves. The net gain/loss per day for each stock will all be randomly generated so there is no problem.

I know it's a little complicated, but I was just wondering who thought if this was a good idea or not, so I'm looking forward to your comments
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Old 08-29-2001, 11:01 AM
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I don't like the idea of having it all random.. where is the thought in that? The whole point in the stock market is to invest in businesses and corporations that you think are prospering. Not just randomly going up and down. :o
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Old 08-29-2001, 11:45 AM
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Alright, so suppose we had stocks like...
Mining Enterprises
Railroad Workers
Bakers United
etc etc etc...

I don't see how we can measure or find a system that would make these stocks go up and down logically
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Old 08-29-2001, 12:05 PM
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The hat trade works very much like a stock market. You buy low, and sell for a higher price. If you manage to get a hold of all the hats of one kind, you can sell for 2498712364897234 gralats each.
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Old 08-29-2001, 05:37 PM
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Well the most logical thing is to go buy each jobs daily earning.. Like how many pies are baked, how much bread is baked.. how many minerals are mined.. how many fish are caught.. and then have them set and changed each day.. if they go up you get money, if they go down, you lose =)
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Old 08-29-2001, 05:50 PM
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The only thing is that right now, It would basically be a bread market... I've seen a FEW people farming and fishing, but not many mining. The baking houses however, are always full...
And you forgot to put bomy jobs on there like Bird catching, and pearl diving...
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Old 08-29-2001, 06:02 PM
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this idea is old X.X
me and my friend had thought of this like 3 months ago
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Old 08-29-2001, 10:43 PM
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Have a set number of gralats that will be obtained in one day by a certain job and if more gralats are obtained then that the stock goes up.. also, the more stocks that are bought into that job the lower the number of gralats that have to be made by it is
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The set numebr idea is very complicated and risky. It would be better if it were just random numbers, but there would be some sort of pattern. If there was a pattern people could tune in and find out what it was and buy/sell according to that
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Old 08-30-2001, 02:27 AM
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this has been thought of a long time ago... some people told me to make one.. i told them how would i make it so it goes up and down.. i couldn't think of a very good way.. because i think randomly would be a bad way...

mabie if you had it the buy/sell of bomy's and hats...

each bomy/hat has to be a different business...

and if the person looses money on the deal then the stock goes down.. if the person who owns the bomy/hat sells for high.. then the stock goes up
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Old 08-30-2001, 02:58 AM
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I've been wanting a job for a long time that doesn't require mashing a key on the keyboard, but maybe one where you have to somewhat use your brain. This is the first thing that came to mind. I didn't know that this was an idea from a long time ago so no one think I am trying to steal their idea
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I think I know, basically, how a sine wave-ish pattern, which still has some randomness, can be achieved. Basically you have a variable that goes up and down in a wave pattern as time passes, anywhere from, say 20 gralats to 500 gralats per stock. Then you make an array with, say, 55 elements. Then you initialize it something like this:

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setarray possible_values, 55;
for(i = 0; i < 25; i++) {
possible_values[ i ] = median;
}
for(i = 25; i < 35; i ++) {
possible_values[ i ] = median + 5;
}
for(i = 35; i < 45; i ++) {
possible_values[ i ] = median - 5;
}
for(i = 45; i < 50; i ++) {
possible_values[ i ] = median + 15;
}
for(i = 50; i < 55; i ++) {
possible_values[ i ] = median - 15;
}



Now by accessing a random element of the array every minute, say, we get a nice, probability-adjusted new value for the stocks. I'm sure that can be optimized a lot, and needs some tweakage to get it nicely balanced, but beyond that all that'd need to be made is some way of randomly determining the high and low points of the next wave, and the length of the wave, and then change the current stock values based on a function of the time, but that shouldn't be too hard.

[edit] Whoops... I added in some important details that I originally left out.
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Old 08-30-2001, 05:36 AM
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I like the idea of a stock market
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Old 08-30-2001, 07:13 AM
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the stock market idea was talked about ages ago and stefan didnt like it too much 8^/
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:04 AM
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I want a job that doesn't involve stupid key mashing
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:21 PM
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I made one *edit*A while ago*edit*. Still have it. Cant buy stocks yet though. But you can watch the pretty numbers go up and down
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Old 09-01-2001, 02:08 AM
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This b my idea... but not my creation
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