The Kingdom Contreversy

feivel · #1 08-06-2001, 03:43 AM

Well It seems there contreversy over whether or not there are too many kingdoms. I think saying no more kingdoms now is unfair cus you could have the best idea for a kingdom that everyone would like and you cant do it. I do not think there should be a limit for kingdoms as long as they are all good. And ofcourse if they all have to be good then there wont be alot.
It should sorta work like guild but you need 10 supporters,
a base, a storyline, and other requirements that show it will be an interesting guild. Also I think kingdoms would be crowded if there were alot of the same kind of kingdom. But lets see well Pirate Crew, thats differen thten everything else. Zormite are fishie things, etc...
but I do think that there needs 2 be more then one kingdom of a kind. Like another royal type kingdom like dustari to be its enemy or soemthing. Just like if people wanna be in a royal kingdom but they dont like Dustari somehting else for them to choose,
something where they can still be human,
still have a king and all those l337 ranks in monarchy and stuff.
well I know a zillion peeps are gonna disagree with my opinions but hey I cant force you to agree,
I can just sit here and cram it down your throat whether or not you decide to swallow it lol. aaah now im gonna get flamed for saying lol when that wasnt very funny but..
anyway have a nice day

Cloud_X · #2 08-06-2001, 03:47 AM

Was there a point?

feivel · #3 08-06-2001, 03:56 AM

Aaarrggh...
Ofcourse there was a point,
I wanted to know everyone opinions,
and I wanted to suggest how kingdoms could be limited without restricting kingdoms that might be better then existing kingdoms.
And I also wanted to state my opinion! If there was no point it would be pointless (duh) and it would probably be considered spam1

IceHawk · #4 08-06-2001, 03:56 AM

There isn't enough damn people
You NEVER see Zormite or Samurai people on. or Karakaze.

feivel · #5 08-06-2001, 03:59 AM

true,
and if a better kingdom was introduced peeps from dying kingdoms and peeps wihtout a kingdom would join it.
I just hope then when RPkingdomlands comes out its fun enough to attract most g2k1 users to a kingdom. And maybe we can make it so there are Kingdom Admins and if they feel a kingdom is basically dead they can give it like a certain amount of time to show some activeness. If it doesnt seem to revive in activity then it will be disbanned

Cloud_X · #6 08-06-2001, 04:30 AM

every time 1 new kingdom is added 2 or 3 seem to come
eg
Pirates
then came Tyealia and Karakaze
then outlaws
then from outlaws Valder and Brad's kingdom

(of course when I say came from i mean more of came after hehe)

Brad0629 · #7 08-06-2001, 04:37 AM

Feival Acurx has all the things you said a kingdom would need

Supporters
Storyline/plan
Castle

IceHawk · #8 08-06-2001, 04:38 AM

Valder has a kingdom?

Better kiss Zormites and Samurai good-bye.

Cloud_X · #9 08-06-2001, 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by IceHawk
Valder has a kingdom?

Better kiss Zormites and Samurai good-bye.

valder's kingdom is a rebel one of mine that broke off because it used magic or somethign that Tyealia didnt approve of. It's a lot liek tyealia. To get in you must play a song and it is on a cloud. Hehe stefan said it was well planned though so

feivel · #10 08-06-2001, 05:00 AM

Well Uh actually I think Acurx (sp?) is cool,
I liked the idea and some of the pics on the website although everyhting on the website was very small,
and yes i know yuo can zoom but it was still annoying,
but I liked those two dragons on the site lol,
but it seems cool, you should make it in a castle not a cave though, but make the castel walls and everything black,
and have a lava moat and ya know like an evil dark castle,
i guess sorta like bowsers castle lol but have stuf fhaving to do with your kingdom in it..
not stuf fhaving to do with mario. I would love to make a kingdom cus I love RPing and I have great ideas but...
everyone would flame me for making yet antoher kingdom,
and i am not good at websites so someone would have to make a website as well as graphics,
i could probably design the castle like an architecht would do,
but someone would have to make it in graal lolololololand script everyhting, but I love midevil stuff so if i made a guild it would probly be along those lines, maybe a rival or friend of Dustari,
another Human kingdom that isnt demonic and isnt evil lol,
that would make two kingdoms that arent evil, demonic, bad, or have funny customs about honor.. or fishes...

feivel · #11 08-06-2001, 05:01 AM

I feekl real stupi for not mentioning this becuas I always wanted to make a guild like this on classic....
a roman kingdom!
no one take my ideas or I will um get real mad and call you a copycat and then tell your mom and you wont be able to come off your cloud, castle, boat, submerged city, anymore!

Fai · #12 08-06-2001, 05:05 AM

Oh God this kingdom stuff is annoying...

Someone tell me how all these kingdoms fit in? They don't! There sould be 2-3 GAME CONTROLLED KINGDOMS. As in: The game follows a plot that has to do with the kingdoms. How can there be a plot with so many new kingdoms being added and crap. Blah. Kingdoms and pet bomy crap were the 2 things that made me stop playing.

But who cares what I say. Tomorrow there will be 500 new kingdoms.

FatherDante · #13 08-06-2001, 05:09 AM

It is ridiculous for kingdoms to become like guilds, but that is how it has become. Everyone wants to have their own.

You know, Valder already stabbed Samurai and Dustari in the back. Why should he be allowed to form his own kingdom to stab in the back? This is... irritating. >

Brad0629 · #14 08-06-2001, 05:13 AM

dante...

Fai · #15 08-06-2001, 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
It is ridiculous for kingdoms to become like guilds, but that is how it has become. Everyone wants to have their own.

I so agree. I think NPCs should be kings and stuff. That would be so much better. And the dawgz would have to do their jobs for the K1NG and then get like ranked higher in kingdom.

FatherDante · #16 08-06-2001, 05:22 AM

That's a good idea, Fai. Stefan could form the kingdoms, and put NPCs in charge.

That way, nobody would lust for the throne, because it wouldn't be vacated 4 times a month by unreliable leaders, nobody would try to make their own, since only Stefan could form kingdoms, and people would be rewarded for service in a realistic model of a society.

Of course, it would be a meritocracy! That's an excellent idea.

feivel · #17 08-06-2001, 05:24 AM

I dont like it being game controlled,
im just syaing only the best of the best kingdoms should be allowed,
rather then 500 new stupid no RP ones.
And I dont want a kingdom just of rthe sake of having one,
I want oe ecuase I believe i could create a good RPing one that would be fun for all.

Cloud_X · #18 08-06-2001, 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
That's a good idea, Fai. Stefan could form the kingdoms, and put NPCs in charge.

That way, nobody would lust for the throne, because it wouldn't be vacated 4 times a month by unreliable leaders, nobody would try to make their own, since only Stefan could form kingdoms, and people would be rewarded for service in a realistic model of a society.

Of course, it would be a meritocracy! That's an excellent idea.

I love it but, how would people RP with an NPC =\

Fai · #19 08-06-2001, 05:27 AM

I never see people RPing. And I can't see how people take their RPing seriously. I'm not an RPer, but it looks stupid when I see people doing things like:

Gardener SSJXTRUNXDAWG (Dustari): HEY U SUCK WANT TO BUY MY BOMY?

FatherDante · #20 08-06-2001, 05:29 AM

The king doesn't have to roleplay. After all, he's busy. Here's our AI.

King's advisor recommends war. King has a 30% chance of declaring war on the kingdom. ^_^ Other kingdom NPC king offers treaty approximately once a week. Receiving king NPC accepts by a role of 80%. If negative, goes to ar with kingdom if not already at war.

Simple as pie.

Besides, our shogun is the true leader anyway, the emperor is just a puppet leader.

Fai · #21 08-06-2001, 05:31 AM

If they did this I might actually re-upgrade my account, since it would be more of a GAME like it should be.

Cloud_X · #22 08-06-2001, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
The king doesn't have to roleplay. After all, he's busy. Here's our AI.

King's advisor recommends war. King has a 30% chance of declaring war on the kingdom. ^_^ Other kingdom NPC king offers treaty approximately once a week. Receiving king NPC accepts by a role of 80%. If negative, goes to ar with kingdom if not already at war.

Simple as pie. Besides, our shogun is the true leader anyway, the emperor is just a puppet leader.

Hehehe if graal npc kings got the y2k bug (yes that makes no sense but hehe)
"King1: War treaty kill food where is my coat" 80% chance of rain"
"king2: I see dead people. We love to make you smile treaty peaty wheaty"
hehehe but dante that idea is good =]

feivel · #23 08-06-2001, 05:36 AM

NONONONONO cus then..
*ghasp* the way dantes made it out,
the kingdoms are more likely to be peaceful then at war,
and I sitll odnt think an NPC king is great,
no itneraction and its a computer so it wont make choices a human makes,
it wont make a choice based on the circumstances,
it will make a choice based on the percentages the scripter programmed in

FatherDante · #24 08-06-2001, 05:40 AM

It was really a joke. NPC kings probably shouldn't make decisions except who to promote.

Fai · #25 08-06-2001, 05:41 AM

Admins could control the Kings and stuff and set them to start wars at times and stuff.

feivel · #26 08-06-2001, 05:45 AM

*Ghasp*
only certain people would be allowed to be kings,
none of these problems would be present if we just censored which kingdoms and king we allowed, there are alot of good kingdoms and its better with a real player as leader,
and thats becuase they are good leaders and the kingdom was a great idea, we wont have to worry about 500 kingdoms sprouting up everyday if stefan does allow them to become official unless they and their king meet certain requirements!

Fai · #27 08-06-2001, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by feivel
*Ghasp*
only certain people would be allowed to be kings,
none of these problems would be present if we just censored which kingdoms and king we allowed, there are alot of good kingdoms and its better with a real player as leader,
and thats becuase they are good leaders and the kingdom was a great idea, we wont have to worry about 500 kingdoms sprouting up everyday if stefan does allow them to become official unless they and their king meet certain requirements!

Currently, Graal is a chatroom with swords that can't do anything because everyone sucks and has 100 AP and doesn't want to play the game the way it should be played. If they made it into a GAME by making it more game-controlled, it would be more fun, and probably more successful.

Cloud_X · #28 08-06-2001, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by Fai

Currently, Graal is a chatroom with swords that can't do anything because everyone sucks and has 100 AP and doesn't want to play the game the way it should be played. If they made it into a GAME by making it more game-controlled, it would be more fun, and probably more successful.

ill actually be playing more when I get a new computer because right now i dont even meet graal's minuim requirments

FatherDante · #29 08-06-2001, 07:14 AM

I disagree, Fai, Graal is a chatroom with swords and tons of minigames.

I like minigames myself.

Fai · #30 08-06-2001, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
I disagree, Fai, Graal is a chatroom with swords and tons of minigames.

I like minigames myself.

The minigames get boring after a while. Only good one was CS. CTF was pretty well set up too. That's about it.

feivel · #31 08-06-2001, 07:33 AM

Thats the whole point,
well it is now...
RPing is what brings all the elements of graal together into a fun enviroment. Sure people say what if we get tired of roleplaying, and when you get tired of RPing then you sit on your lazy ass and and take advantage of the chatting with a sword, 100 ap, hiding in water, scamming elements of the game. The RPing is where the real action is. Becuase wihtout the RPing all graal really is is a huge PK zone with some mini games and jobs...
its not that wit needs more computer control,
its almost the exact oppisite,
computer control is why people dont RP,
they want to make their own decisions or affect decisions being made, not have an NPC randomly declare war...
as long as the kingdoms and kings are censored alittle bit more,
and "backround checks" are more thorough we wont need to worry about a zillion kingdoms cus oly the good ones will exist!