Promises that never were going to happen!

[Rave_J]

So almost a year still no Era Facebook or graal Andriod

Stefan and Unixmad have came out with this big news how Graal going to change and gave dates which was not MET!

kind of like the flying system they announce to release but never happen on finish V6 and release it instead of debug system...

i honestly don't think Graal should even charge when they cant even update teh dev tools or software to even keep it going like it should anymore i just want to know when is all this going to be release

flying system -2 years back
V6 at least a year
Facebook almost a year or more
Android graal almost a year or more

[salesman]

did they ever promise any release dates?

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

graal Andriod
...
Android graal almost a year or more

The Android version was delayed by some unseen setbacks but has been making progress.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

So almost a year still no Era Facebook

In fairness, they didn't feel it was worth keeping the other Facebook server around any more (wonder why). So it's probable that those plans simply changed.

The big problem that occurs to me is that there are so many different things being worked on simultaneously, they simply cannot all be completed within a reasonable time, and this contributes to the neglect of non priority Graal projects.

[Rave_J]

i understand about Android crap happens but the flying Tech. ?
yes they did sales check it

this is the facebook things and v6
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134262480

and flying tech he said will be releasing in a few weeks
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ing+technology

i still think they should re release graal 3d engine
maybe wont be use as much but for some that want to use it go for it or camera rotation where we can make a RTS game or a isometric game if we want too instead of top down view games

[fowlplay4]

The flying tech is useless, and to make it a gold only feature was a terrible joke.

I do wish Stefan would release an update of the V6 Beta already though, there's still some issues with it that need to be fixed.

[Rave_J]

i have problems with v6 where doesn't dispaly the letters on the buttons or when u type to go to UC server u cant c wtf u are typing

[James]

graal release dates....

[Emera]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

In fairness, they didn't feel it was worth keeping the other Facebook server around any more (wonder why).

The content on that server was poor, by anybodies standards! Callimuc outlined just a few of the "errors" development staff made in a thread on the Graalians forums. The images he posted are attached.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by Emera

The content on that server was poor, by anybodies standards! Callimuc outlined just a few of the "errors" development staff made in a thread on the Graalians forums. The images he posted are attached.

I imagined it was hoped Facebook would provide a new source of players, that advertisement would handle itself in the form of players being noticed playing Graal by their friends. When in truth a lot of players created an alternate Facebook account specifically for Graal, and it only really succeeded as an alternate gateway to the iPhone server.

That doesn't mean to say those screenshots bar the first and Chris Killem's aren't sickening to someone from Classic, but I doubt they would have had much bearing on the main problem at hand. If Graal were to somehow get a server on Facebook where most players were quite happy to display it to their friends (whether this is possible I don't know, from my experiences Graal is always referred to at first glance as a 'crappy 2d game'), there's still a possibility for growth.

[DustyPorViva]

I imagine the Facebook server was an attempt to cash in on that Farmville playerbase

[Crono]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

If Graal were to somehow get a server on Facebook where most players were quite happy to display it to their friends

That's a huge problem (if they're going to rely on it in the future) and you really don't need to look far to see why. Almost 12 years and I've only shown two people Graal.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Crono

That's a huge problem (if they're going to rely on it in the future) and you really don't need to look far to see why. Almost 12 years and I've only shown two people Graal.

Graal wouldn't be such an embarrassment if it wasn't for the fact that not only it looks bad to most, but it plays even worse then it looks. (Looking at 60% of development)

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Graal wouldn't be such an embarrassment if it wasn't for the fact that not only it looks bad to most, but it plays even worse then it looks. (Looking at 60% of development)

It's not that really. I mean yeah some servers look embarassing but the fact that it's p2p is an insult to people who see it for the first time. They look at it and go "eh, it's nothing special wtf is this" and then find out that it's actually p2p aswell. If I found Graal post v2 I think I would have honestly laughed at the notion of paying for it and turned away.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Crono

It's not that really. I mean yeah some servers look embarassing but the fact that it's p2p is an insult to people who see it for the first time. They look at it and go "eh, it's nothing special wtf is this" and then find out that it's actually p2p aswell. If I found Graal post v2 I think I would have honestly laughed at the notion of paying for it and turned away.

Yeah, the game is a joke when p2p is acknowledged.

But I'm not just talking about server's appearance, I'm more focused on server's actual gameplay. There's only... 3 servers that have any legitimate gameplay anymore, which in itself is an embarrassment.

Agreed, I would've rejected Graal If I hadn't found it in Graal v2. I still remember playing in those days.

[Rave_J]

ya i remember when there wasnt any tabs just some servers had gold coins beside that u had to pay monthy i think it was like 3 dollars but getting servers was free due gs1 u did it offline then send it to stefan and he approves it and gets it up
but graal was so simple back then now everybody wants all this complex stuff lol
if we still was in gs1 prob be alot more scripters like it use to be where it was common
but when u get 200 players on alot of servers u would be stupid to not charge thought

[smirt362]

Dev tools

How old are they now?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by smirt362

How old are they now?

Bout as old as my cat.

[Rave_J]

the dev tools i think like 01 or 02 i know the level editor semi been touch no much but thats about it

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

In fairness, they didn't feel it was worth keeping the other Facebook server around any more (wonder why). So it's probable that those plans simply changed.

The big problem that occurs to me is that there are so many different things being worked on simultaneously, they simply cannot all be completed within a reasonable time, and this contributes to the neglect of non priority Graal projects.

The Facebook server was taken down, but you now connect to play with the iPhone players when using the Facebook client. It's nice because now there is a larger community to play with.

[Devil_Lord2]

Yeah, I'm not sure I want to do super rewards again... I don't know.
Nor do I know if I would still be playing this if I didn't buy an account years ago...

I may have introduced Graal to a good amount of people, but they have only gotten on because of me, they didn't like it, and most quit. The three servers online are a joke since it really isn't easy to 'get into' Graal, and many of the points of P2P really do turn many away... Its sad really...

Why can't some people have a GS1 server, and some have GS2?
Is this possible?

[snoop413]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

Yeah, I'm not sure I want to do super rewards again... I don't know.
Nor do I know if I would still be playing this if I didn't buy an account years ago...

I may have introduced Graal to a good amount of people, but they have only gotten on because of me, they didn't like it, and most quit. The three servers online are a joke since it really isn't easy to 'get into' Graal, and many of the points of P2P really do turn many away... Its sad really...

Why can't some people have a GS1 server, and some have GS2?
Is this possible?

and what makes your server 'not a joke'? it's extremely unlikely your server will ever go classic status, if that's what you're trying to say.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by snoop413

and what makes your server 'not a joke'? it's extremely unlikely your server will ever go classic status, if that's what you're trying to say.

Not what I'm saying at all, and it isn't my server, it belongs to quite a few people. What I am saying is, when it does go classic and I believe it has a great chance, what then?

I really don't want to advertise it to anyone outside of Graal because once it is classic, it won't belong to many people, it then belongs to two people.

I don't see why I should have to advertise for others if the profits never go to the ones working on the server. I will of course make a video for us, which will go on youtube and shown to the Graal community. Maybe my facebook...

That is as far as I'd advertise Graal.
At least until Graal earns my respect anyway.

[callimuc]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

when it does go classic and I believe it has a great chance

Until the replaced images are fixed I doubt that

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Crono

It's not that really. I mean yeah some servers look embarassing but the fact that it's p2p is an insult to people who see it for the first time. They look at it and go "eh, it's nothing special wtf is this" and then find out that it's actually p2p aswell. If I found Graal post v2 I think I would have honestly laughed at the notion of paying for it and turned away.

I think the current pink-purple website also repels potential players above 12.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by callimuc

Until the replaced images are fixed I doubt that

I'm not sure what images were replaced.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

I'm not sure what images were replaced.

You might find a few player graphics if you use these commands within RC:

/find body*.png
/find head*.png
/find hat*.png