I really think you should look at this

Vash · #1 08-02-2001, 10:36 AM

The following quote was posted on the pokezero.com message board.

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I know Psykloak posted this on the main news...but for those of you who like to skip it....here is something interesting:
"Poster: MykeZero
Date: 06/13/01
E-Mail: [email protected]
Subject: Intresting Situation
Body: I recived a letter from a so-called "Legal Dept" of the owners of the Graal Game...Please Read On....

Dear Sir,
The Graphic Tileset used by pokezero.com is in direct violation of copyrights filed by GraalOnline/Linux Cyberjoueurs in both the United States and France. We have enclosed two screenshots demonstrating the direct violation. We have sent these files to our lawyers in France and in the United States.

- graal_tile.gif belongs to GraalOnline
- poke_tile.gif is the violating tileset we retained from Pokezero.com

We remind you that the U.S. Copyright Office protects original works of authorship including "pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works," which would
cover any and all images in any format, including digital images. An image is copyrighted if it is on the Web since copyright is automatically conferred upon creation of the work. Altering a few graphics within
graalonline's original tileset does NOT alter the clear copyright
infringement violation.

In response to pokezero.com's blatant copyright infringement, we have contacted lawyers in California to proceed with a legal process against your company and game. You will be contacted by them within the next 7 days,
unless you do the following:

1. Remove all Graphic Tilesets used by Pokezero from http://multiplayer.com/RPG/more2.html and ANY OTHER SITE using these graphics.

2. Put notice on all distribution sites that Pokezero has illegally
benefitted from use of Graphics owned by GraalOnline/Cyberjoueurs and was
ordered to halt distribution of the violating game.

We have also notified www.multiplayer.com of the copyright infringement of your game.

sincerely,
Michael Thompson

Vice President of Business Development
GraalOnline & Cyberjoueurs
21 rue de Fecamp
75012 Paris
France
33.1.43.97.60.11
[email protected]

My reply is below...
Mulitplayer.com is not my site, so if they make money from my game they are doing it without any blessing from I, so feel free to do what you want with them. However, I do not make any claim that the graphics are solely mine nor do i claim them as my own. I also do not profit nor in anyway make money from said graphics.

So feel free to send your lawyers after me, i am violating nothing.

If any further legal action is attempted, i will notify Nintendo of America and im sure they will be very intrested in your situation, because you are actually claming the Zelda graphics as yours, even slightly altered they are still Nintendo property Not yours....

So in very simple english, The Zelda Graphics are not yours,and if nintendo told me to stop using them i would, but you are not nintendo.

As for the Graal Graphics, I am not profiting from them thus it retains status as a "fan project".

The same reason Nintendo could not do anything to Graal when it was "Zelda Online" beacuse you were not making money from it, they could not sue you, it is the same situation here.

Lastly, If Multiplayer.com is making money from my game, talk to them not me. It is not my site.

Thank you,
-Mike

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- MykeZero
Webmaster and Powerful Overlord-ish Dictator of all he sees. =p"

I would like to thank Psykloak for making this available for all to read....

If any Graalian would like to respond to this,then feel free to do so....but please do it in a civilized way,like the civilized people you claim to be...

Lycia · #2 08-02-2001, 10:39 AM

>.<

Knightoffrost · #3 08-02-2001, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Vash
The following quote was posted on the pokezero.com message board.

mmmmkay

Gameo · #4 08-02-2001, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Lycia

>.<

dumb

i mean the reply, oh and you.
go spam on some drug forums, loser.

Vash · #5 08-02-2001, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Knightoffrost

mmmmkay

You have NO idea what has been going on have you?

Knightoffrost · #6 08-02-2001, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Vash

You have NO idea what has been going on have you?

No sorry i've bene away from the forums for a while

smallballn13 · #7 08-02-2001, 10:43 AM

here is the link to the pole boards where they said that at

http://www.pokezero.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=000940

Torankusu · #8 08-02-2001, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Vash

You have NO idea what has been going on have you?

pokezero or whatever is ran by idiots.. I have seen their Tileset, and it's ALOT like Graal's. Zelda's has changed ALOT, so there is NO WAY they can say Graal's Tileset is like Zelda's.

JinZero · #9 08-02-2001, 10:43 AM

stupid pokemon people

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #10 08-02-2001, 10:44 AM

This is some serious ****, it might not exactly go down as people planned

smallballn13 · #11 08-02-2001, 10:45 AM

Go look at this screenshot!

http://www.pokezero.com/shotoftheday.gif

Knightoffrost · #12 08-02-2001, 10:45 AM

Hey i looked at that pokemon online **** that is zeldas tileset.

JinZero · #13 08-02-2001, 10:51 AM

that screenshot is really old, its more like screenshot of the year

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #14 08-02-2001, 10:53 AM

It's piss poor anyways, when they compare the two games who do you really think will come out on top?

Vash · #15 08-02-2001, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
It's piss poor anyways, when they compare the two games who do you really think will come out on top?

Not them for sure -
1. There levels are bad
2. They use pokemon graphics from www.pokemon.com

View GraalOnline Profile · #16 08-02-2001, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Lycia

>.<

Vash · #17 08-02-2001, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Deadly_PK

didn't work

Torankusu · #18 08-02-2001, 11:00 AM

i am supar cool.

http://www.pokezero.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=9&t=000024

RawPower · #19 08-02-2001, 11:00 AM

I was playing the game and got into a battle with charizard!

I lost

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #20 08-02-2001, 11:01 AM

We should create a cult... er.. I KEWL POKE GROUP THAT KILLZ OTHERS

View GraalOnline Profile · #21 08-02-2001, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower
I was playing the game and got into a battle with charizard!

I lost

SkooL · #22 08-02-2001, 11:05 AM

They say they are a "fan project". I thought they hated Graal.

CookieMonster · #23 08-02-2001, 11:05 AM

Haha, I knew about this like 2 or 3 months ago I never did anything, actually I did and posted something, they just banned me and called me a jackass.

James205 · #24 08-02-2001, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by CookieMonster
Haha, I knew about this like 2 or 3 months ago I never did anything, actually I did and posted something, they just banned me and called me a jackass.

Same here but they called me just about every swear word. Then they banned me.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #25 08-02-2001, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by James205

Same here but they called me just about every swear word. Then they banned me.

The pokemon goes straight to your head. I think they have spent too much time talking about their little creatures that say their names repetatively

Torankusu · #26 08-02-2001, 11:13 AM

Forget them.. What can people that are hosting a website, and have created a game off of something Copyrighted do to graal? Nothing i see on graal anymore is like Zelda, at all..

Their UBB board sucks. :-/.

James205 · #27 08-02-2001, 11:15 AM

This isnt something new at all, this has been out and we have been trying to deal with this for 4 months? 5 I dont know, and whoever said he hasnt made a new exe or whatever, he just came out with on on 7/19, apperently they don't listen. Then I have people to tell them sorry because I brought up a point on their forums.

smallballn13 · #28 08-02-2001, 11:24 AM

this was posted by one of the guys who play that other game

Actually if you read the news you will see that Myke himself contacted Nintendoof America and they said it was alright as long as he made no profit from it!! Again,this letter doesn't mean you guys have those copyrighted materials as of now,but you did at one point and Nintedo was not able to do anything about it!

Not quite....Graal did not get around that "obstacle" by changing their name....back then graal was still know as "Zelda On-Line",but Nintedo could not do anything as Stefan di not(Nor anyone in Graal) make profit from it!

James205 · #29 08-02-2001, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by smallballn13
this was posted by one of the guys who play that other game

Actually if you read the news you will see that Myke himself contacted Nintendoof America and they said it was alright as long as he made no profit from it!! Again,this letter doesn't mean you guys have those copyrighted materials as of now,but you did at one point and Nintedo was not able to do anything about it!

Not quite....Graal did not get around that "obstacle" by changing their name....back then graal was still know as "Zelda On-Line",but Nintedo could not do anything as Stefan di not(Nor anyone in Graal) make profit from it!

They never got permisson from Stefan if they can use Graal Online's graphics.

Zulithe · #30 08-02-2001, 11:29 AM

thanks a *lot* for erecting me pokeonline

SkooL · #31 08-02-2001, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Zulithe
thanks a *lot* for erecting me pokeonline

*runs to rumors forum* *posts "Rumor: Zulithe erected by pokemon?!"*

Zulithe · #32 08-02-2001, 11:33 AM

only poke pr0n

Archeon · #33 08-02-2001, 11:36 AM

PIKACHU

Huggles · #34 08-02-2001, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Deadly_PK

Hey, like can you grow up for once? It was funny the first time but not the 100th time

Gameo · #35 08-02-2001, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Huggles

Hey, like can you grow up for once? It was funny the first time but not the 100th time

INFAMOUS FREAK HE IS TELLING YOU TO CONFORM BE NICE DON'T BE DIRTY OR MEAN BE NICE ALWAYS NEVER STAND OUT CONFORM CONFORM CONFORM

go away captain roboto

Archeon · #36 08-02-2001, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Huggles

Hey, like can you grow up for once? It was funny the first time but not the 100th time

CUSA read my freakin PM and answer it.

FatherDante · #37 08-02-2001, 12:18 PM

I got into a battle with charmander. I beat him, and a dialog box came up saying I gained a level. I clicked it, and another dialog box came up saying I gained another level. And then another dialog box. And another. Long story short, after one battle I had a level 100 charizard.

freddyfox · #38 08-02-2001, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
I got into a battle with charmander. I beat him, and a dialog box came up saying I gained a level. I clicked it, and another dialog box came up saying I gained another level. And then another dialog box. And another. Long story short, after one battle I had a level 100 charizard.

YUO CHEAT!

Rekad · #39 08-02-2001, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo

INFAMOUS FREAK HE IS TELLING YOU TO CONFORM BE NICE DON'T BE DIRTY OR MEAN BE NICE ALWAYS NEVER STAND OUT CONFORM CONFORM CONFORM

go away captain roboto

sorry, but this time CUSA is being a noncomformist, he is one of the few people that dont have the TALFEM image in their sig and doesnt spam it every minute.

FatherDante · #40 08-02-2001, 12:27 PM

I tried to stop it but it wouldn't let me! The game made me cheat! That's entrapment!