Atlantis Hosted!

[Deas_Voice]

congratulations Atlantis, the server really looks amazing!

i made a list about a few things i thought you could improve, and some ideas

• NPC's (charatchers) are missing on some places, like in the mine, behind the counter.
• could use a Animation on when you climb down/up the rope in mines
• a way to take off the mine hat? also, add a functionality to it, turn the light off and on, make it brigter infront of you, cool stuffs like that
• the Beauty Parlor head select shows the whole image rather then the fist view, and it have trans on it, so it makes it hard to see.
• the green arrows could use a text where it says "read me" or "talk to me" above it, it looks very weird to me at osl, where the sign says "read me" with text and an arrow going up and down pointing on it, rather then on the sign itself.
  
• can't buy beer at osl bartender =( [lol]
  
• touching NPC's by accident shows text, very annoying, make it so u have to stand under the npc (or whatever direction the npc is faceing, but the opposite), like in osl "read me" sign.
  
• show "+ ½hp" over head, or on screen when "sleeping" in a bed (like the gralats does)
  
• missing display of how many bombs and arrows you have (or does this show up when you have a bow and a bomb?)?
  
• why are there box "symbols" in the sign-message window text?

again, i Love the server and i'm looking forward for more things to do on the server!

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

NPC's (charatchers) are missing on some places, like in the mine, behind the counter.

That guy's missing? What the..? Do you just not see him, or what else is up with that?

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

could use a Animation on when you climb down/up the rope in mines

Planned, but that is low priority stuff.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

a way to take off the mine hat? also, add a functionality to it, turn the light off and on, make it brigter infront of you, cool stuffs like that

Use "sethat" without any other parameters to take hats off. Not pretty yet, but I'll make the whole thing more user friendly later on. The mining hat customization stuff is a pretty neat idea. We'll look into that.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

the Beauty Parlor head select shows the whole image rather then the fist view, and it have trans on it, so it makes it hard to see.

The transparency is somewhat experimental. I wanted it to blend in with the mirror. I'll probably end up changing that to 100% again. What do you mean by saying it shows the whole image, though? Does it show the complete head image to you rather than the front view only? Which OS are you running Graal on?

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

the green arrows could use a text where it says "read me" or "talk to me" above it, it looks very weird to me at osl, where the sign says "read me" with text and an arrow going up and down pointing on it, rather then on the sign itself.

The arrow alone should be enough as an attention grabber. I agree it looks strange in the OSL though, since the arrow overlaps with the text above the sign.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

can't buy beer at osl bartender =( [lol]

Not yet

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

touching NPC's by accident shows text, very annoying, make it so u have to stand under the npc (or whatever direction the npc is faceing, but the opposite), like in osl "read me" sign.

I actually thought I was doing that already. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll look into it.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

show "+ ½hp" over head, or on screen when "sleeping" in a bed (like the gralats does)

I will add some neat effects to the HP display later on. Those should do the trick.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

missing display of how many bombs and arrows you have (or does this show up when you have a bow and a bomb?)?

This will show up in the inventory when you have bombs/a bow, right next to the icon. It will then also show up next to the selected item in the top right corner when bombs/bow are equipped.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

why are there box "symbols" in the sign-message window text?

Line breaks. They appear on some signs/NPCs because the text was written in a strange way in the NPC itself, not closing the string but adding line breaks to make it look clean in the editor. We'll go through those NPCs/signs and fix them, don't worry

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

again, i Love the server and i'm looking forward for more things to do on the server!

Thanks! And thank you very much for the feedback, I appreciate it.

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Crow

That guy's missing? What the..? Do you just not see him, or what else is up with that?

there's an arrow pointing at nothing; i do not see him at all. no shadow, no nothing.
e; also found that the bartender next to the sparing cave is also missing.

Originally Posted by Crow

Planned, but that is low priority stuff.

=p

Originally Posted by Crow

Use "sethat" without any other parameters to take hats off. Not pretty yet, but I'll make the whole thing more user friendly later on.

oh i see.

Originally Posted by Crow

The mining hat customization stuff is a pretty neat idea. We'll look into that.

i know, right?

Originally Posted by Crow

The transparency is somewhat experimental. I wanted it to blend in with the mirror. I'll probably end up changing that to 100% again. What do you mean by saying it shows the whole image, though? Does it show the complete head image to you rather than the front view only? Which OS are you running Graal on?

i'm seeing the whole(compleat) image, as i said.
i'm running Ubuntu Linux, with V6beta, of course.
e2; just went and checked again, i now see 3 heads, the front view of them.

Originally Posted by Crow

The arrow alone should be enough as an attention grabber. I agree it looks strange in the OSL though, since the arrow overlaps with the text above the sign.

yeah, it grabs your attention alright, but as i said, could help a bit more with "talk to me" or "read me" above it too.

Originally Posted by Crow

Not yet

:o

Originally Posted by Crow

I actually thought I was doing that already. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll look into it.

hehe, i guess it's not easy sometimes, but a idea would be that you would join them to a class, and define what direction you should be faceing to talk to it.

Originally Posted by Crow

I will add some neat effects to the HP display later on. Those should do the trick.

okey

Originally Posted by Crow

This will show up in the inventory when you have bombs/a bow, right next to the icon. It will then also show up next to the selected item in the top right corner when bombs/bow are equipped.

alright

Originally Posted by Crow

Line breaks. They appear on some signs/NPCs because the text was written in a strange way in the NPC itself, not closing the string but adding line breaks to make it look clean in the editor. We'll go through those NPCs/signs and fix them, don't worry

oh? that's odd because it's in so many of the NPCs!

Originally Posted by Crow

Thanks! And thank you very much for the feedback, I appreciate it.

no problems

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

there's an arrow pointing at nothing; i do not see him at all. no shadow, no nothing.
e; also found that the bartender next to the sparing cave is also missing.

Strangest thing to happen till now. Getting any errors in the F2 log?

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

i'm seeing the whole(compleat) image, as i said.
i'm running Ubuntu Linux, with V6beta, of course.
e2; just went and checked again, i now see 3 heads, the front view of them.

I can't help but blame this on the Linux client :/ I really don't know what else to do.. Do you see the loading icon when first using the head changer (after a reconnect)?

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

hehe, i guess it's not easy sometimes, but a idea would be that you would join them to a class, and define what direction you should be faceing to talk to it.

Doing that already, but there are a couple. Guess I only implemented that in one place.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

oh? that's odd because it's in so many of the NPCs!

I know T_T

[Crono]

ran around atlantis for a lil while, love the sound effects. got slightly bored though but you guys are far from finished so w/e. waiting for you to release those dungeons. (:

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Crow

Strangest thing to happen till now. Getting any errors in the F2 log?

well, yeah, it comes with having people on your server, finding stuffs that worked for you, but not for others

lets see... *opens Graal, sign into Atlantis and walks to the mine* no, no errors in F2, I'm afraid.
look if have set the npc to idle perhaps? i'm not sure.

Originally Posted by Crow

I can't help but blame this on the Linux client :/ I really don't know what else to do.. Do you see the loading icon when first using the head changer (after a reconnect)?

Blaming it on the client like that is a bad idea; considering that i did close the client in-between, so it has to be a problem there. (first time login)

Originally Posted by Crow

Doing that already, but there are a couple. Guess I only implemented that in one place.

hehe

e; just noticed that insidelevels are gray, not black on the parts that there is nothing in; why is that?

[xAndrewx]

Few things that I noticed

What is Atlantis? I couldn't find out

1,) I couldn't read the full sign message (at the start, main room), maybe a tutorial for controls. I read it again but pressed 'a' to read further messages. Make it so if you press any key [a/s/d] it shows the full sentence, and you keep pressing them to 'end' it
2,) 'at_inside-shophouse.nw' shows [] boxes on the sign at 30,37 (must be the font- it happend in alot of places)
3,) Sign posts to show what each house is- other than signs. I don't want to read a sign to know what kind of shop it is. (mostly the start area- other houses did already have a sign)
4,) Hard to read font in inventory, and also add mouse functions to it? I was also expecting to press 's' to change my sword, and 'd' for weapon. I was wrong, you assign both with 'd' (i suppose thats just me)
5,) I picked up some stuff from a bush, but I had no idea what? Maybe a message showing what you picked up



Script Errors

Script: Function onTimeOut not found in function onCreated in script of  (in level at_inside-sparcave.nw at pos (54, 17))
Script: Function ChatBar_ToggleTaskBarButton.destroy not found in function onTimeOut in script of Weapon -Map

I did like it- very lovely to walk around. Great stuff so far

[Rave_J]

few things i notice.

umm the palm trees look like they were edit with zelda palam trees
the trees itself the top was taken from zelda and kind of redone it and add a new trunk to it. little things like that i been noticing more and more on servers
buts its all good man. Its graal

u guys might disagree but i look threw alot of zelda mock 2d games just like the coconut from zenkou
was taken from a mock zelda online game

[DeCeaseD]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

few things i notice.

umm the palm trees look like they were edit with zelda palam trees
the trees itself the top was taken from zelda and kind of redone it and add a new trunk to it. little things like that i been noticing more and more on servers
buts its all good man. Its graal

u guys might disagree but i look threw alot of zelda mock 2d games just like the coconut from zenkou
was taken from a mock zelda online game

You should post proof before making such accusations.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

What is Atlantis? I couldn't find out

1,) I couldn't read the full sign message (at the start, main room), maybe a tutorial for controls. I read it again but pressed 'a' to read further messages. Make it so if you press any key [a/s/d] it shows the full sentence, and you keep pressing them to 'end' it

Controls and questions about Atlantis itself will all be covered in the introductory quest which will be released soon.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

3,) Sign posts to show what each house is- other than signs. I don't want to read a sign to know what kind of shop it is. (mostly the start area- other houses did already have a sign)

Most buildings have a design with an image describing its function. What do you want signs for?

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

4,) Hard to read font in inventory,

Serious? Huge resolution or something? If not, what, specifically, is hard to read about it?

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

and also add mouse functions to it?

Nope.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

5,) I picked up some stuff from a bush, but I had no idea what? Maybe a message showing what you picked up

We planned adding some display showcasing what you actually picked up, but later scrapped it because at the time, we couldn't think of a good way to do it (constant messages for those kinds of things are lame as hell). I believe covering this in some sort of tutorial will do.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Script Errors

Script: Function onTimeOut not found in function onCreated in script of  (in level at_inside-sparcave.nw at pos (54, 17))
Script: Function ChatBar_ToggleTaskBarButton.destroy not found in function onTimeOut in script of Weapon -Map

First: not sure. Level related, will look into it.
Second: Gah. I still haven't added a check if that darn button has been destroyed already.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I did like it- very lovely to walk around. Great stuff so far

Glad you like it

Originally Posted by Rave_J

umm the palm trees look like they were edit with zelda palam trees

They weren't. Case closed. Lack of evidence (and because I say so ).

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

Blaming it on the client like that is a bad idea; considering that i did close the client in-between, so it has to be a problem there. (first time login)

I just want to blame it on something because so far it has worked for everybody else and there really isn't anything that could possibly go wrong. The script sets the part x, y, width and height for the image objects before showing them, so everything should work out nicely

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

few things i notice.

umm the palm trees look like they were edit with zelda palam trees
the trees itself the top was taken from zelda and kind of redone it and add a new trunk to it. little things like that i been noticing more and more on servers
buts its all good man. Its graal

u guys might disagree but i look threw alot of zelda mock 2d games just like the coconut from zenkou
was taken from a mock zelda online game

You do realize how foolish you look trying to get a fantastic server in trouble for something that they 1) did not do, because they are good people 2) have no reason to do because of their skill, right?

[kia345]

Rave, I think it's your bedtime


Anyway, on Atlantis, slashing any sword while facing right doesn't show any sword sprites. What's up with that?

[DustyPorViva]

Similar, but not even close to being stolen or anything to worry about.

[Rave_J]

ok well im goign to edit era tileset add more bricks add a little shade to it recolor it maybe make it darker ect. then upload to my own game and say i amde it
so i can say its similar but not even close to being stolen
look at the tree the top its prety much just recolor and touch a bit
look at the bushes just more leafs and recolor
even the lillypad just the circle around it resize it and then recolor it bam
idk y u guys can say its not stolen graphics and just edit it

[oo_jazz_oo]

Omg, their tiles have slight resemblance (if you squint your eyes realllllly hard in low light) to a another game! Send in the feds!

But really, your saying they stole an 8x8 tile from another game? Fo reals now? It doesn't even look close....at all.
As far as the trees and bushes, not even close.

Go make drama elsewhere, please.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

ok well im goign to edit era tileset add more bricks add a little shade to it recolor it maybe make it darker ect. then upload to my own game and say i amde it
so i can say its similar but not even close to being stolen
look at the tree the top its prety much just recolor and touch a bit
look at the bushes just more leafs and recolor
even the lillypad just the circle around it resize it and then recolor it bam
idk y u guys can say its not stolen graphics and just edit it

It's not a ****ing edit though, it's not even close.

[oo_jazz_oo]

Oh wow, I thought he was serious...ok, emergency averted.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

omg u guys are really that dumb huh. u can resize it then edit it up a bit redo teh trunk the lilly pad resize it recolor it and bam there u go dusty i seen some of ur work dont get me started on you. like Look at pics1 the houses even very very close too close to be honest its like graal took legend of zelda resize everything and recolor it and bam u got the graphics. even Val look at it
man alot of things on Val is recolor and touch up a bit from rpg maker just saying stefan and unximad needs to enforce this again they been lacking

Yea it's not like pics1 is anything like any other games tiles.

[xAndrewx]

The signs on buildings are not near the OSL, the first few buildings are like 'oo whats in there... nothing' kinda thing

Here's a snapshot of the inventory

[Crow]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Here's a snapshot of the inventory

That looks kinda like I didn't force a font on these. Is that your default Graal font? If not, something is seriously going wrong. I'll look into it, thanks!

Edit: Fixed!

[xAndrewx]

Good fix
thanks

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by kia345

Anyway, on Atlantis, slashing any sword while facing right doesn't show any sword sprites. What's up with that?

works fine for me; but I'm using linux.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by kia345

Anyway, on Atlantis, slashing any sword while facing right doesn't show any sword sprites. What's up with that?

I really don't know what's causing is. The bug is described in the v6 Windows beta test thread as well. If it doesn't work at all, even after a client restart, try making a fresh Graal folder for your v6 client.

[Rufus]

Latest v6 client, not sure the inventory is supposed to look like this.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Latest v6 client, not sure the inventory is supposed to look like this.

That's a bug I've described already in the appropriate thread. It ends up looking like this when the coordinates of the images are floating point numbers (which they are because I'm calculating the center of the screen by dividing the resolution by two). This didn't happen in v5, but Stefan seems to show little interest in fixing this so far. Guess I'll end up making integer values out of those :/ You can fix it for yourself by changing to window size of Graal so it ends up with even numbers for its resolution (or altering the config file).

[The_Federov]

this is what?

[Crow]

Originally Posted by The_Federov

this is what?

Referring to..?