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Old 05-16-2011, 11:24 PM
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you should also have it so all 2 bullet shot guns either have a small clip and a high reload time, or a high freeze or really low rate of fire..
Sounds pretty good, but you need to elaborate on that. Those suggestions are pretty mixed up.
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:40 AM
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Sounds pretty good, but you need to elaborate on that. Those suggestions are pretty mixed up.
I'm saying that you have to find some sort of bigger flaw for 2 bullet guns that makes them different that other 20 damage non 2 bullets weapons.

For example:

DR's current stats:
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.22
Freeze: 0.12
Reload: 0.36
Spread: 0.04 (4.58°)

What you could do to fix this for a new balance is

Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.41
Freeze: 0.14 (doesn't really matter anyway)
Reload: 0.5-.6
Spread: 0.04 (4.58°)

keep the spread low, make it semi automatic again, and keep a low spread for it, and make its clip smaller

Shipka's current stats:
Gun Stats for 'Shipka':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.35
Freeze: 0.12
Reload: 0.36
Spread: 0.08 (9.16°)

What we could do with this
Gun Stats for 'Shipka':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.45-.5 (SINCE IT'S AUTO)
Freeze: 0.14 (doesn't matter same anyway)
Reload: 0.5-.6
Spread: 0.05

Since shipka has a tiny bit more spread, give it a little smaller clip than the DR.

ACR stats:
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.3
Freeze: 0.05
Reload: 0.4
Spread: 0.09 (10.31°)

What ACR should be
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.4
Freeze: 0.14
Reload: 0.6
Spread: 0.03

Give it a small clip due to it being faster than the other ones, but it's more expensive

but regardless, 2 bullet guns are seriously overpowered if you know how to use them

that's what you can do with 2 bullet guns, just a basic blueprint/idea

Or you could change the damage of the weapons too.

Edit: This is for when you re-scale guns, the only immediate nerf at this point in time should be the ACR. Just throwing it out there.
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:57 AM
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:58 AM
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:00 AM
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frank for guns admin! WOOO. and in all seriousness id prefer it if the acr wasnt a 2 shot, but instead a single shot with moderate spread with say .27 rof. making it a little worse than the mp5 but still a good gun, the way it is right now just feels awkward. 2 shot guns were never meant to have really low freeze it just doesn't handle the way it should. instead of it just being usefull for really fast wall laming and thats it, give it a spot right in between the tg and mp5.
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:57 PM
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i dnt see y all of u sudden ppl dnt like .05 freeze guns
theyre harder to use (u gotta move quicker to use them effectively), and yeah u can lame but anyone with a bit of skill can avoid lame
if u try wall laming me uve practically lost the spar/fight
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:17 PM
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i dnt see y all of u sudden ppl dnt like .05 freeze guns
theyre harder to use (u gotta move quicker to use them effectively), and yeah u can lame but anyone with a bit of skill can avoid lame
if u try wall laming me uve practically lost the spar/fight


Don't give me that crap rofl, the way you and Rams and a lot of people use .05 freeze guns make it incredibly easy to use. Maybe if you actually used them differently it would be hard to use them, but you honestly don't have a clue of what you're talking about.

I know I'd make a much better guns admin than you by the way lol, but it doesn't matter, most if not all of the older players who still play agree everything needs to be nerfed and re-balanced.

Make the game skill-oriented again, and not about how big of a gun you have.
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:53 PM
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if u try wall laming me uve practically lost the spar/fight
yeah coz u've had so much practice at wall laming with ur 0.05 freeze gun that u'll be 2 steps ahead of them rite lol.
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:53 PM
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older players? man u started playing era after me so stfu
and imo bar and luger r still the best guns on era, and they both have .1 freeze
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:54 PM
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yeah coz u've had so much practice at wall laming with ur 0.05 freeze gun that u'll be 2 steps ahead of them rite lol.
no cuz wall laming isnt effective unless it's done well and in the right moment
u guys r all just mad lmao
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:11 PM
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older players? man u started playing era after me so stfu
and imo bar and luger r still the best guns on era, and they both have .1 freeze

Uhhh.... definitely not on the playing after you but believe what you like.

Also, if they were the best guns why don't you use them? All you do is run around with your Mp5 Navy and hold d while lagging... lol
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:16 PM
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i use bar for sparring but not for raiding cuz it's too long
and i started early 2005, dnt rly remember when u did but mustve been late 2005/early 2006
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:19 PM
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i use bar for sparring but not for raiding cuz it's too long
and i started early 2005, dnt rly remember when u did but mustve been late 2005/early 2006
I see you use mp5 all the time in spars.... lol?

Also, I was early 05 too, lol.
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:23 PM
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I see you use mp5 all the time in spars.... lol?

Also, I was early 05 too, lol.
Difference is that I remember you and your bro playing in 2005.
I don't remember seeing bloodykiller until late 2008 at least.
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i use bar for sparring but not for raiding cuz it's too long
and i started early 2005, dnt rly remember when u did but mustve been late 2005/early 2006
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:59 AM
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Difference is that I remember you and your bro playing in 2005.
I don't remember seeing bloodykiller until late 2008 at least.
what ur saying is dumb cuz:
1.i wasnt playing in 2008, i quit in 2007 and restarted like 10months ago
2.how can i have a classic account if i started in 2008?
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I wasn't even born in 1986 but I owned a 1986 Nissan Pintara.
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Old 05-20-2011, 06:02 AM
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