Peoples are mean :'[

[Devil_Lord2]

Making fun of my creation telling me it looks odd. -tear-
Has no one looked at the noob lately?



Anyway, the graphics seem to go to a younger audience, going to head away from Graal looks entirely so the head will not resemble the noob head.

I'd like to make it shorter too, and keep my movement system, but only have 4 pictures at the start until I feel like doing that many more images lol..

I'm going to try for a facebook server, because I doubt I will get many NATs for the game server. I'm going to try something different, again I will not create the hiring part until I have more graphics to show as an incentive.

I should be able to create the systems I need, or get more help trying to rather then how long it would take to try and make a game..

The idea is meant for facebook as well. It should work on PC Client, however it would be dumb because there isn't many people playing it. I'll let you know more as I progress.

In the meantime,
Stop making fun of my overlarge nub :'[
If you've seen my original 3D Noob,
he was even as chubby as the original.


-EDIT-
By the way, when it is useable, it will have underwear...

[Demisis_P2P]

Ok, thanks for letting us know.

[fowlplay4]

I'll leave the 3D Gaming to multi-million dollar gaming studios.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Ok, thanks for letting us know.

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

I'll leave the 3D Gaming to multi-million dollar gaming studios.

I much prefer 3D over Pixel Art.
Facebook has many 3D type games, and I highly doubt they are multi-million dollar gaming studios..

Anyway, anything I create that is not used, I will also have for later in the 3D files. I appreciate the note though. :]

[Fulg0reSama]

Small Suggestion; where you have the eyes on the head, you may want to give some form of light-dark circles around the eyes to give some definition to the eyesockets and allow some opportunity to create a forehead for the character (small).

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Small Suggestion; where you have the eyes on the head, you may want to give some form of light-dark circles around the eyes to give some definition to the eyesockets and allow some opportunity to create a forehead for the character (small).

:O I totally forgot eyesockets, but that reminds me he doesn't have eyebrows either! I'll have to work on that while I am recreated the head!
I hate working on 3D heads though D:
My first time was my Ex-Gf's and that took about 1-2 weeks to make it look good.. I didn't learn much during that period of the class lol I mean it was our final assignment but >.> It's kind of like taking a photoshop class when you knew Paint Shop Pro, especially on a Mac. You end up hating Macs and thinking that is the problem, half the day you are frustrated trying to learn how to copy and paste. D:

Anyway, thank you very much, I probably would have forgot to do it again.. :[

[Fulg0reSama]

No prob bob.

[Devil_Lord2]

Heading to PA for three days, need to clean up what I left over moving to MD.
I'll have a good amount of time to do graphics since I won't be able to use RC.

>.> Hope to have my server idea posted soon.

[Knux]

I like it but I don't like the ears. O.o.. He needs clothes too! Inappropriate post! :P

[WhiteDragon]

You should check out PKT's low-poly 3D work if you are trying something like this since it is very well done imo.

But I agree with fowlplay, I think 3D is not the right direction to go, since it's far harder than 2D, and Graal barely has resources for 2D. Not to mention there is far more competition for 3D games.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon

You should check out PKT's low-poly 3D work if you are trying something like this since it is very well done imo.

But I agree with fowlplay, I think 3D is not the right direction to go, since it's far harder than 2D, and Graal barely has resources for 2D. Not to mention there is far more competition for 3D games.

3D for Facebook/Graal or Graal itself would be neat, but a lot of people may not like it, I will still give it a go..

Btw, thanks lol, I don't know how exactly he did that, but I know all my stuff would have to be images.. I'd have to learn the radius thing and have the images block correctly since I can't make a complex movement system..

Other than that, thank you, that picture was pretty neat lol.. Some of the textures without using my own table skin as the material wouldn't be as well as that for Graal, but I can definitely work on my lighting.. >.> I had to redo it three times to get it as light as it is now.. D:

Originally Posted by Knux

I like it but I don't like the ears. O.o.. He needs clothes too! Inappropriate post! :P

-pokes tongue-
:'[ but they are basically the same ears as the original.. not good.. lol
he will have underwear later! If and when it goes public.. so far again, I have not touched the server. ... well construction wise.. everything is testbed for now.. my big bed for many tests :O

Also, thank you!

-EDIT-
Not that a lot of you care, and many of you have no problem at all going on to the thread to let me know.. one of the perks up PC Client players I think.

I am attempting to learn version 2.57 which is a completely different interface than what I am use to on version 2.49. It's going to take me a while to get a lot of graphics out :'[

However, the program I am using I took a college course on, and it is called Blender. You could also make videos or games on it if you are that good.

Just go to Blender.org an open-source free 3D Modeling and Animation program.

-EDIT again-
I give up lmao, I will stick with 2.49 and learn 2.57 some other time :'[

[TSAdmin]

I've gotta say that it reminds me of the Dancing Baby

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

I've gotta say that it reminds me of the Dancing Baby

xD ... almost the same height too lol

-EDIT-
After looking at the other guys stuff... I actually wouldn't know how to do low poly, or such low details.
Again I'm also going to try and head away from the Graal look.
Instead of my 48 images per pose, I'm going to do body and head and just save bodies as I go.. I intended it to be body, head, two arms, two legs... but it takes long rendering 6 objects 8 times for each stance lol.. Now eventually I'd have enough bodies and heads, legs and arms would have to be added.. but that doesn't help with clothing :/ I was going to make a clothing template.. have players make their own since I am big on others learning how to LAT and GFX ... but making more poses... more clothing styles... PC Client players hating the idea of of the 3D Graphics.. the gaming server seemed like a wasted attempt.

I think my work would be much more appreciated in a different community / Graal Facebook. More adults that are bored, and children would want to play.

[ff7chocoboknight]

People aren't mean, you just can't handle the truth.

[Elizabeth]

looks odd

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight

People aren't mean, you just can't handle the truth.

Really :o?
You should check a lot of posts around the forums directed at other people.
My opinion still stands, however not exactly the motive of my post.

In an art profession you have to handle the truth ... that or not care what others think.. but usually it's better to please a bigger audience. x.x; Especially if you'd like a job in the profession.. not saying doing everything for your self isn't good either.

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

looks odd

It does kind of, doesn't it?


My next version is heading away from the noob head which means I'll have to recreate the head.. something... I'm not happy about lol.. "It is a long proccess" I just wanted my original head and body to look like the noob. Then I deleted the body and legs and recreated it for a Graal server..

Rendering 48 pictures, putting them all on a template, and then trying to set up the ganis in text file is an even more tedious process.

Either way I'll take the chance to learn version 2.57.. I hope.. :'[

This is the original, had to use my college portfolio picture since offhand I don't know where he's stored. D:



I just noticed I sent in the one with the old hands..


P.S.: Does anyone know how you make the images smaller via thread but keep its size after clicked? Or the commands of this forum? I'm going to post under the graphics section some rocks, and a bush that I have created later..

[ff7chocoboknight]

So creepy...

[Devil_Lord2]

I believe it is mostly because it isn't the graphics you all are use to on Graal..
Doesn't mean all the servers have to follow that cartoony type :o
Nor am I that good at making lifelike skin lmao

[Elizabeth]

looks odd

[oo_jazz_oo]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

I believe it is mostly because it isn't the graphics you all are use to on Graal..
Doesn't mean all the servers have to follow that cartoony type :o
Nor am I that good at making lifelike skin lmao

No, I think its cuz those are just creepy...

They would look creepy if it was in any game.....its creepy.

[Luda]

That thing looks like Zideruic

[Galdor]

Perhaps try to make it lowpoly and make textures from the 2d sprite instead, I think that would look way less terrifying then that "realistic" look you're going for.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

I much prefer 3D over Pixel Art.

When you can't even get decent at Pixelart, give up on 3D

aswell, its People, not Peoples

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Elk

When you can't even get decent at Pixelart, give up on 3D

aswell, its People, not Peoples

Awesome advice Elk.
Get the stick out of your ass and actually give him a guiding word instead just demotivating him.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Elk

When you can't even get decent at Pixelart, give up on 3D

aswell, its People, not Peoples

I think the college I went to skipped pixel art classes for a reason.
I don't find it too interesting either..

I may not be great, or good at pixel art,
but I think my work is tolerable if that is alright with you.




-EDIT-
Oh this is one of my asylum doors, so it won't match much of the graphics on Graal either.
I have my own tileset I've been creating x.x; Again much rather work in 3D.

Also, thank you for the grammar lesson. I will try to remember it for the next time I want to make a thread name to attract persons. ;]

-Second Edit-
I forgot it doesn't show much unless you see the complete door.. Too lazy to fix it up from the tileset, you'll have to use your imagination.

I admit I am horrible at making cracks, but I try. ^.-

Originally Posted by Galdor

Perhaps try to make it lowpoly and make textures from the 2d sprite instead, I think that would look way less terrifying then that "realistic" look you're going for.

I think if I added more light, and took off shading it would work, other then that.. I wouldn't know how to make it low poly... D:

I think I have three textures on it though, to emulate real skin.. it didn't go too well lol
Better than the plastic like one I had the first time o.O; I will see what I can do on my next one.



-Edit-

Originally Posted by Luda

That thing looks like Zideruic

I actually don't like ignoring people, as much as I don't like to be ignored, unless they are just trying to be mean. But I really didn't understand the statement... D:

So, I guess I will ask lol.. What is a Zideruic exactly :x?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

So, I guess I will ask lol.. What is a Zideruic exactly :x?

I believe he means that your work reminds him of Zideruic's work, not a what, but a whom and I just told you the answer

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I believe he means that your work reminds him of Zideruic's work, not a what, but a whom and I just told you the answer

Oooh, may I see?
Link please?


Also, apparently I need a 'warrant' to post on older threads, seeing someone was not too happy I accidentally did it in the past.

trifle - Did he quit his 3D work? I'd love to help him create a 3D server, unsure what program he used though, but I could slightly make what he has. I also like the idea, possibly a classic server but 3D?..

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

trifle - Did he quit his 3D work? I'd love to help him create a 3D server, unsure what program he used though, but I could slightly make what he has. I also like the idea, possibly a classic server but 3D?..

If you're just taking a 3D model and generating sprites from it, it's 2.5D at most. If you want to make a 3D game, use a 3D engine.

[Devil_Lord2]

I could use Blender to make a game, but I haven't learned it.. I'd like to do it on Graal since I know how to script for it a little, and know the community a little more.. but yeah its just 3D visuals, the gameplay is definitely 2.5D. That doesn't bother me much..
As long as the movement is 8 directions it only adds to the 3D likeness. :3 so far I like it..

Anyway, I'm going to make a new post with what I have so far.. they can definitely use improvement.. but they are alright for now :]

-edit-
Oh, I heard Unix is good too, and can make iPod games which I'd like to look into.. probably too complex for me though..

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

looks odd

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight

So creepy...

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

No, I think its cuz those are just creepy...

They would look creepy if it was in any game.....its creepy.

I think it's because of the eyes.
They look like they're melting right out of the head.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I think it's because of the eyes.
They look like they're melting right out of the head.

xD Could be right, heads aren't my strong suit..
This was my first try, and for my second to final project in the class.


lol I couldn't even get the head to render the texture.. so I basically took a screen shot of the head in texture mode and sent that with my other projects. xD

Luckily I've learned how, and I figured out how in version 2.57 to take this picture.
If you go into 3D Modeling and Animation, I suggest not doing someone you like. The model kind of makes me sad, I couldn't expect it to be perfect but it definitely needs a lot of work. :C It does look like her for the most part though..

I'd post her picture but I wouldn't do that without her permission. :c
Anyway, the next head I will probably have less detail, or try to make it look better for Graal. Sometimes less is more D:

I'll assume this picture looks creepy as well.
Happens.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

[Devil_Lord2]

Going to ignore that. >.>
I take it as an offense to both myself and my ex.
It does redirect us back to the topic of the thread however..
Fence is taking a while, keep getting distracted.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2

Going to ignore that. >.>
I take it as an offense to both myself and my ex.
It does redirect us back to the topic of the thread however..
Fence is taking a while, keep getting distracted.

Just to clarify, I'm not making any form of ethnicity joke, Sorry for offending you or your ex-girlfriend.
It just looked similar to me.

[Devil_Lord2]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Just to clarify, I'm not making any form of ethnicity joke, Sorry for offending you or your ex-girlfriend.
It just looked similar to me.

I didn't think it had anything to do with ethnicity, only putting down my project, and her looks. The shape of the face is for the most part correct..

The reason I go on about, and try to redirect arguments is because I dislike bullies. Over the years I have learned people should love themselves and not care what others think. I am passively aware of my facial features, and for a long time I would hide my forehead because I thought it looked sort of like a caveman. Anyway, getting to the point, I could care less how people talk about me knowing I can defend my self.

If you were to say your work sucks, I'd take it as less offending.
Anyway, apology accepted I suppose.. Finally finished the fence too, but I think it would be difficult to get it on Graal..

Actually I may have to make it a setimg2 and fit them into 16x32 columns ... or make the bottoms 32x32 and recreate all the fences linked.. D: that would be tedious.. I'll figure it out.

Anyway, what are you up to?
It's about 6:00am here x.x;

[Fulg0reSama]

Not sleeping unfortunately and it's cool, no need to explain yourself, but I'm no bully

[Devil_Lord2]

I'm going to sleep. D:
Anyway done posting on this thread.
Tomorrow... Today, hopefully, I will be packing up a lot of the stuff I left here and putting it in the attic. :] I hastily moved from PA back to MD and left a big mess.

Hopefully cleaning most of it up before I leave back to MD again Wednesday. Niiightttt!

[Elizabeth]

looks odd

[NewYorkerNick]

lol @monkey

I thought the same exact thing.

[Ares]

Originally Posted by Luda

That thing looks like Zideruic

hahahhahahaahha