New to level design...

LordOfPi13 · #1 07-10-2010, 08:24 AM

Hey guys, I have decided to try my hands at level designing. I have experimented with some levels, but nothing amazing yet. Any good tutorials I should look at? A tutorial on how to do outsides of houses would be great. Also, to get opinions on levels here I just take a screenshot of them and post it, correct? Is there like a command to take a picture of a level because I am running on a netbook and the whole level can not fit in the area of a screenshot.

I hope someone can respond to this

Crono · #2 07-10-2010, 08:27 AM

There's some limited info here,
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=47045
with most of it still being relevant.

To take a screenshot of a level press alt + 1 in the level editor while in "play mode". Really though, the best advice is always to keep practicing.

cbk1994 · #3 07-10-2010, 08:29 AM

From the level editor click "Play" then press Alt + 1 and choose a place to save the screenshot. Alt + 1 takes a screenshot of the entire level without the player in it. Alt + 2 will take a screenshot of the visible area including the player and other things (hearts, AP, etc).

As for tutorials, try this list.

EDIT: Beat me to it, Crono

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LordOfPi13 · #4 07-10-2010, 08:41 AM

Thanks guys, you are truly the best

attached is one of my first levels, although the darkness is set, it is not visible in the screenshot

Sp_lit · #5 07-10-2010, 12:50 PM

I think you are doing great, if that is what your first levels look like. Just keep it up and soon you will be awesome

Crono · #6 07-10-2010, 01:40 PM

pretty neat for a first level

WanDaMan · #7 07-10-2010, 03:13 PM

Fantastic, nicely done

! Great job

Nataxo · #8 07-10-2010, 04:27 PM

Nice Job pi

Rufus · #9 07-10-2010, 04:33 PM

I like how even though this is your first level you've hand-detailed the floor -- that's good practice. It's also a good first level in general, but a shame that you've gone down this kind of style, though unsurprising and not really your fault.

Loriel · #10 07-10-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LordOfPi13

Thanks guys, you are truly the best

attached is one of my first levels, although the darkness is set, it is not visible in the screenshot

welp

Those chair graphics look like **** and nothing like the tileset

The way you just use random tiles for your decoration removes any visual contrast between walls and floor and makes the latter look way cluttered

Most people who make levels are ****, do not try to imitate them

LordOfPi13 · #11 07-10-2010, 07:42 PM

Thanks guys for all the feedback, I did the flooring like that because I have seen previous party levels with that floor. I will take that into consideration and possibly redo the flooring. Since some of my npcs are not visible in this level, the chairs are darker in game (dark red) I don't know if that matters.

Aknts · #12 07-11-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

welp

Those chair graphics look like **** and nothing like the tileset

The way you just use random tiles for your decoration removes any visual contrast between walls and floor and makes the latter look way cluttered

Most people who make levels are ****, do not try to imitate them

Says the guy who never made a good looking level.

Loriel · #13 07-11-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aknts

Says the guy who never made a good looking level.

says who

LordOfPi13 · #14 07-11-2010, 09:57 PM

Oh, and guys. Do you recommend buying a mouse? I'm using a trackpad, and I have noticed that I'm kind of slow with it. =P

Loriel · #15 07-11-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LordOfPi13

Oh, and guys. Do you recommend buying a mouse? I'm using a trackpad, and I have noticed that I'm kind of slow with it. =P

**** mice, get a wacom tablet. Serious hardware for serious leveling.

Rufus · #16 07-11-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LordOfPi13

Oh, and guys. Do you recommend buying a mouse? I'm using a trackpad, and I have noticed that I'm kind of slow with it. =P

Yeah.

LordOfPi13 · #17 07-21-2010, 10:02 AM

Well, I'll get a mouse soon. I recently made some levels for Classic iPhone that have just been released. =D

cbk1994 · #18 07-21-2010, 10:06 AM

I'm not very familiar with classic-style levels, but they seem too open.

LordOfPi13 · #19 07-21-2010, 10:08 AM

I left a lot of space because usually around 400 people will be in these levels at a time =P but I should add more tables and stuff

Crono · #20 07-21-2010, 10:14 AM

UN corrupting LATs one year at a time.

nullify · #21 07-21-2010, 11:55 AM

UN style is just terrible.

Fulg0reSama · #22 10-22-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

UN corrupting LATs one year at a time.

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Originally Posted by nullify

UN style is just terrible.

Agreed

salesman · #23 10-22-2010, 10:26 PM

I'm glad you bumped a thread to provide us with such an insightful post.

Fulg0reSama · #24 10-22-2010, 10:33 PM

You're welcome.

N01ze · #25 11-02-2010, 12:44 AM

I think classic levels should be smaller :O not cramped though, just smaller. Remember - you don't have to fill up the ENTIRE level editor screen xD Also, kinda unrelated, but I feel that there are too many players on there and its WAYY too laggy x.x

ffcmike · #26 11-02-2010, 01:01 AM

True Classic levels shouldn't really consist of that whole "Red Carpet, Brown House Bricks, Wooden Stakes, Castle Carpet Edges" style, UN corrupting LATs one year at a time like Crono said.
Still it's a nice level for what it is especially for a beginner, my suggestion to improve would be to more evenly spread out furniture/other objects, try not to over-crowd one area of a level while leaving the other side empty, makes a level look more visually pleasing to me.

N01ze · #27 11-02-2010, 05:12 PM

Well, when you really think about it, its actually kind of amazing for a beginners first or second level. Its also pretty lucky to be hired on Classic iPhone with no experience at all xD

Aknts · #28 11-05-2010, 05:43 AM

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Well, when you really think about it, its actually kind of amazing for a beginners first or second level. Its also pretty lucky to be hired on Classic iPhone with no experience at all xD

Real hired or Graal hired? Does he actually get paid for making iPhone levels? I would love to make levels for iPhone Graal.

Bubble13 · #29 11-05-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aknts

Real hired or Graal hired? Does he actually get paid for making iPhone levels? I would love to make levels for iPhone Graal.

Good luck with that. From what I've heard, it's only possible to get hired if the manager (Xor) like you.

Aknts · #30 11-05-2010, 07:36 PM

Well I mean I worked with Stefan for like 3 years. I've made levels since the year 1999 on Graal. I'm known as one of the best level makers to play Graal.. a long with Wan, Bird, mmmmkay and others.

taylor · #31 11-06-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aknts

I'm known as one of the best level makers to play Graal..

lol