If you don't play Era, and choose to post in our sub-forum, please read!

[FantasyX]

If you're going to post in our sub-forum, be informed before you post in a thread about Era's community or how so-and-so is [insert adjective here].

I'm tired of seeing people from other servers come into our sub-forum and tell us how our community is "stupid" and we're always making mistakes.



TL;DR
If you don't play Era, and you're going to make uniformed posts,

**** off.




Thanks,
The Era Community

[Glock]

Ya.

[adam]

I don't play Era, I got on and the community kindly answered my cries of death and pain with more gunshots.

=D I win

[cyan3]

You have no right to tell any of us to stop posting in the Era sub-forum because we are all registered users and are allowed to post in any and all of the forums and sub-forums.

[Crow]

I've been playing Era for a while, and I can say that Era's community is indeed stupid.

[FantasyX]

I'm not saying you -can't- post. Please re-read the post.

[Frankie9011]

Seconded.
You're annoying as hell and your opinions don't mean anything if you don't actively play Era.

[adam]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

I'm not saying you -can't- post. Please re-read the post.

I think you misunderstand the implications of your own words.

[kia345]

You guys are stupid.


Telling us not to call you stupid just sort of makes it more apparent. How do you think we formed that opinion anyway?

You don't have to be a movie critic to know a movie sucks. You don't have to be an Era player to know the community is collectively as smart as a golf ball.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Frankie9011

Seconded.
You're annoying as hell and your opinions don't mean anything if you don't actively play Era.

Outside opinion can be just a valid as inside opinions.

[fowlplay4]

making uniformed posts itt, private school style itg.

[Zero]

lmao FantasyX sure is upset about his like sub-forums. Its a game, get over it.

[FantasyX]

Originally Posted by kia345

You guys are stupid.


Telling us not to call you stupid just sort of makes it more apparent. How do you think we formed that opinion anyway?

You don't have to be a movie critic to know a movie sucks. You don't have to be an Era player to know the community is collectively as smart as a golf ball.

Check this guy out, continuously bashing people on a forum he doesn't know. And our community is the "bashing" and "stupid" one? I see.


On an objective note-
How does outside opinion even REMOTELY compare to an inside opinion? An outside opinion has absolutely no value if they're unaware of what they're talking about. That's like saying an uneducated man's opinion on global politics is just as valid as the UN Secretary General's opinion. Honestly, are you dumb enough to believe something like that?

[Demisis_P2P]

Have to admit that Era has some pretty stupid players.
By which I mean really standout stupid, annoying as ****, players.
But it also has some pretty intelligent players.

Overall I find that Era's playerbase of 20% super annoying, 20% annoying, 50% normal and 10% intelligent is easier to deal with than UN's playerbase of 50% annoying, 30% normal and 20% intelligent (where the intelligent UN players are mostly old classic players, tbh).

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

On an objective note-
How does outside opinion even REMOTELY compare to an inside opinion? An outside opinion has absolutely no value if they're unaware of what they're talking about. That's like saying an uneducated man's opinion on global politics is just as valid as the UN Secretary General's opinion. Honestly, are you dumb enough to believe something like that?

Are you completely dumb? An outside opinion can give insight to something that community may have missed or completely forgot about. Honestly If I do a piece of work I'll get somebody who knows nothing about it to give me an opinion as well as people who know what they are talking about.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

Check this guy out, continuously bashing people on a forum he doesn't know. And our community is the "bashing" and "stupid" one? I see.

Look at this guy, he can't flaw my argument so he just says "NO U ARE UNEDUCATED"

On an objective note-
How does outside opinion even REMOTELY compare to an inside opinion? An outside opinion has absolutely no value if they're unaware of what they're talking about. That's like saying an uneducated man's opinion on global politics is just as valid as the UN Secretary General's opinion. Honestly, are you dumb enough to believe something like that?

An inside opinion is completely biased because you are part of the faction being judged. Us guys that don't play Era? We watch the all the rap-battlers and favoritism, the scamming, the silly USD/CST complaints and all the drama from a completely detached view. We are unrelated to the situation, and our opinions are unaffected by any bias. When we look down and decide that 75% of that mess is just stupid people, we can say that accurately, because we're not one of the 25% down there trying to justify their place on the server.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

Check this guy out, continuously bashing people on a forum he doesn't know. And our community is the "bashing" and "stupid" one? I see.


On an objective note-
How does outside opinion even REMOTELY compare to an inside opinion? An outside opinion has absolutely no value if they're unaware of what they're talking about. That's like saying an uneducated man's opinion on global politics is just as valid as the UN Secretary General's opinion. Honestly, are you dumb enough to believe something like that?

Okay bro chill out, Just chill out. I'm going to say a couple things and you won't stop me otherwise you're basically no better than how you see us "outsiders".

1. If someone has had any experience and or played they should be allowed to state an opinion towards it or any events that have happened, otherwise just ignore it off as gossip and or a bad lie.

2. It is a game, You really shouldn't take things so seriously.

3. My most important point, Era has a very major rep for being a bunch of idiots and asses, I personally agree with it due to the fact that It shines through in truth. You may be apart of it and not be like them and even enjoy their company that is cool but you shouldn't defend those who don't deserve the defense.

Also what PoJo said at the end of what he said.
This thread on its own is a waste and asking for trouble.

[Crono]

i probably played era before half of your playerbase even started graal and i can indeed say your community is pretty retarded.

also <3 torque

[Frankie]

were not the stupid ones u guys are. just be quiet.

[kia345]

Replying to this here because two threads is stupid

Originally Posted by FantasyX

So you argue in another thread that you don't have to be a critic to critique a movie, but now the "stupid Era community" can't tell that they have a bad manager?

This right here. They're stupid so it's pretty invalid. They can have an opinion on what they want, but Chris was undeniably talented and brought a lot to the table. It's also two different scenarios. The movie reference applies to the bystander being an accurate judge of something. The Era kids are stupid reference applies to people being biased and trying to press their opinion on the masses (that opinion being: Chris sucks - james).

Dude, stick to one argument. You're trying to act all smart and drastically failing

Your argument this entire time is just "you are wrong". I've seen better defense done entirely with image macros. They were in all caps and had pictures of men pointing.

[FantasyX]

Originally Posted by kia345

Look at this guy, he can't flaw my argument so he just says "NO U ARE UNEDUCATED"



An inside opinion is completely biased because you are part of the faction being judged. Us guys that don't play Era? We watch the all the rap-battlers and favoritism, the scamming, the silly USD/CST complaints and all the drama from a completely detached view. We are unrelated to the situation, and our opinions are unaffected by any bias. When we look down and decide that 75% of that mess is just stupid people, we can say that accurately, because we're not one of the 25% down there trying to justify their place on the server.

You're continuously looking past my arguments. You're calling us the flawed playercount and yet you're doing exactly what you say we're doing.

In this situation, and outside opinion is void. You have no knowledge of what Vimes does besides the general updates he puts on the forums. The only knowledge of Era's playerbase you have is posts on the forums.

This leads me to my main point-
Do you play Era? No.
Do you know anything about Era besides what's posted on the forums? No.

I'm not getting angry, Fulgore. I'm simply stating that if you're unaware of what someone's doing behind the general information you read in our subforum, you shouldn't submit posts about what we should be doing about specific players/staff.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by kia345

Your argument this entire time is just "you are wrong". I've seen better defense done entirely with image macros. They were in all caps and had pictures of men pointing.

Yeah, He's simply using circular logic as a defense because as long as he never admits he is wrong he doesn't lose in his eyes.

Originally Posted by FantasyX

I'm not getting angry, Fulgore. I'm simply stating that if you're unaware of what someone's doing behind the general information you read in our subforum, you shouldn't submit posts about what we should be doing about specific players/staff.

Okay, Than it's simple to state you are taking things too far with the thread. No one really gave a damn probably until you sparked this up.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

You're continuously looking past my arguments. You're calling us the flawed playercount and yet you're doing exactly what you say we're doing.

In this situation, and outside opinion is void. You have no knowledge of what Vimes does besides the general updates he puts on the forums. The only knowledge of Era's playerbase you have is posts on the forums.

This leads me to my main point-
Do you play Era? No.
Do you know anything about Era besides what's posted on the forums? No.

I'm not getting angry, Fulgore. I'm simply stating that if you're unaware of what someone's doing behind the general information you read in our subforum, you shouldn't submit posts about what we should be doing about specific players/staff.

You should really quit while your behind because it's impossible to beat Pojo in an argument.

Edit: Also how the hell can you say we have no knowledge on Chris? If anything most of the people on the forums probably know him far better than you do and ever would. He has contributed mass amounts of code to the code gallery, helped many people with script and technical problems and does a damn good job for the Global News Team.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by cyan3

You should really quit while your behind because it's impossible to beat Pojo in an argument.

Edit: Also how the hell can you say we have no knowledge on Chris? If anything most of the people on the forums probably know him far better than you do and ever would. He has contributed mass amounts of code to the code gallery, helped many people with script and technical problems and does a damn good job for the Global News Team.

Game Set Match, Winner: Non Era Peoples! Now can we discuss ridicule?

[FantasyX]

Originally Posted by cyan3

You should really quit while your behind because it's impossible to beat Pojo in an argument.

Edit: Also how the hell can you say we have no knowledge on Chris? If anything most of the people on the forums probably know him far better than you do and ever would. He has contributed mass amounts of code to the code gallery, helped many people with script and technical problems and does a damn good job for the Global News Team.

Once again, I'm not saying Chris wasn't a valuable scripter. I am fully aware he's brilliant at coding and helped contribute a lot towards various development.

You can't critique someone's management when you don't play the server they manage.

It's as simple as that, and you guys just keep repeating "you lose" without any constructive argument except for kia's one or two arguments about opinions.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

You're continuously looking past my arguments. You're calling us the flawed playercount and yet you're doing exactly what you say we're doing.

What your community does is be petty. They lie to each other, declare everyone is inferior, is constantly unstable in either its staff lineup, economy, or player run franchises, and just overall becomes an undesirable place for more slow-paced people. Era's community is guilty of being unnecessarily hostile to everyone.

Me, I'm guilty of judging them.

In this situation, and outside opinion is void. You have no knowledge of what Vimes does besides the general updates he puts on the forums. The only knowledge of Era's playerbase you have is posts on the forums.

What you're implying is that I, as a Graal player/developer, active forum user, and flirty creeper, do not know anything about Chris, his reign, or Era's management situations; That just because I do not constantly play Era, I do not have a variety of connections to the server, and some understanding of what Chris does as a past fellow GK-developer/player/acquaintance.

That is just silly, and, ill-informed!

This leads me to my main point-
Do you play Era? No.

I played enough to know I did not like the community. And I tried to get back into it multiple times over the years. It is very short-sighted of you to assume that just because you have not seen more on one of Graal's most populated servers that I have never been a player.

Do you know anything about Era besides what's posted on the forums? No.

Originally Posted by Me;

That just because I do not constantly play Era, I do not have a variety of connections to the server

I'm not getting angry, Fulgore. I'm simply stating that if you're unaware of what someone's doing behind the general information you read in our subforum, you shouldn't submit posts about what we should be doing about specific players/staff.

u so mad

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

Once again, I'm not saying Chris wasn't a valuable scripter. I am fully aware he's brilliant at coding and helped contribute a lot towards various development.

You can't critique someone's management when you don't play the server they manage.

It's as simple as that, and you guys just keep repeating "you lose" without any constructive argument except for kia's one or two arguments about opinions.

Now let me ask your opinion on "Playing" Is it 3 days a week for 6 hours straight kind of playing or can it be an occasion pick up and put down deal? Because than I do have a right to my opinion according to your "criteria". You really don't need to have an intellects discussion about Era at all, So stop trying to make more than there is. I'm not making a big arguement over this because it's unnecessary.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

You can't critique someone's management when you don't play the server they manage.

Have I never said he was a good Manager? No, because I have no idea if we was or was not a good Manager but I do know the commitment and time he put into Era.

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Now let me ask your opinion on "Playing" Is it 3 days a week for 6 hours straight kind of playing or can it be an occasion pick up and put down deal? Because than I do have a right to my opinion according to your "criteria". You really don't need to have an intellects discussion about Era at all, So stop trying to make more than there is. I'm not making a big arguement over this because it's unnecessary.

I logged on Era last week and shot Kale with a Shotgun, Do you think that counts?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

If you're going to post in our sub-forum, be informed before you post in a thread about Era's community or how so-and-so is [insert adjective here].

I'm tired of seeing people from other servers come into our sub-forum and tell us how our community is "stupid" and we're always making mistakes.



TL;DR
If you don't play Era, and you're going to make uniformed posts,

**** off.




Thanks,
The Era Community

hey i did not read your thread but please stop ****ting up the New Posts page with your ****ty subforum threads

[Glock]

Shut the **** up.

[FantasyX]

Originally Posted by kia345

What you're implying is that I, as a Graal player/developer, active forum user, and flirty creeper, do not know anything about Chris, his reign, or Era's management situations; That just because I do not constantly play Era, I do not have a variety of connections to the server, and some understanding of what Chris does as a past fellow GK-developer/player/acquaintance.

haha

u so mad

really? this? haha


Anyway, you're still looking past the fact that you didn't experience what he did as manager of Era. You just keep repeating that Chris is a great developer, and that you knew him. I never said anything to mock his development skills. As an Era player that experienced what he did as manager, I am informed of how he performed as a manager. You, still, are not. D:

[kia345]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

haha


Anyway, you're still looking past the fact that you didn't experience what he did as manager of Era. You just keep repeating that Chris is a great developer, and that you knew him. I never said anything to mock his development skills. As an Era player that experienced what he did as manager, I am informed of how he performed as a manager. You, still, are not. D:

As an outside player who has seen Era's playercount fluctuate significantly less since he was manager, a decrease in "times reset a month", as well as constant evidence that he was heading numerous updates and improvements to the server, as well as enforcing rules and keeping the server's news public to the rest of Graal by way of interaction on the forums, I'd say I know a bit more than you.


also, haha i made a funny at my own expense

[FantasyX]

Originally Posted by kia345

As an outside player who has seen Era's playercount fluctuate significantly less since he was manager, a decrease in "times reset a month", as well as constant evidence that he was heading numerous updates and improvements to the server, as well as enforcing rules and keeping the server's news public to the rest of Graal by way of interaction on the forums, I'd say I know a bit more than you.


also, haha

As someone who has played Era on and off for a while now, I can tell you a couple things. Era's playercount fluctuated because summer started. With summer comes more players because they have time to play while they are more busy during the school year. Also, I've witnessed a lot of things he's done as manager being a player. Yes, once again [for like the 1,000th time?] I understand Chris put out updates and I respect him for that. However, he made some decisions that were not well thought out and he was thus, in the opinion of someone that witnessed his actions and played era, a bad manager.

[Glock]

Ok, cool, that's nice. Shut the **** up now?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by kia345

u so mad

How this was not the first reply, I don't know.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

As someone who has played Era on and off for a while now, I can tell you a couple things. Era's playercount fluctuated because summer started. With summer comes more players because they have time to play while they are more busy during the school year. Also, I've witnessed a lot of things he's done as manager being a player. Yes, once again [for like the 1,000th time?] I understand Chris put out updates and I respect him for that. However, he made some decisions that were not well thought out and he was thus, in the opinion of someone that witnessed his actions and played era, a bad manager.

It's cool that you repeat these things, it just means that I don't have to actually have a new response.

Whatever you experienced as a player was experienced by people on the forums too, from a different perspective. A detached, impartial perspective. We can have accurate opinions of Chris. And because of the nonsense caused by Era players both on and off the forums, we can have an accurate opinion there too.

This whole thread is just you saying "you guys don't know enough to say anything". Well, we do. And you didn't/don't know that. Your assumption that we can't form an accurate opinion on Chris/Era's playercount from what we've seen is just as misinformed as you claim we are.

Stop being mad bro, no one ever said playing Era magically made you stupid. You can still be a smart guy even if everyone around you is dumb as a rock. Don't take it so personally.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

However, he made some decisions that were not well thought out and he was thus, in the opinion of someone that witnessed his actions and played era, a bad manager.

What are some of those decisions?

It might be worth mentioning here that Chris has been using current Era as a testbed for certain systems and ideas that he was thinking of putting into New Era. Because a 5 second PK timer might look like a good idea on paper, but without testing it first you don't really know what effect it is going to have.
Same with the HP levelling and hotkeys.

[hunterhunk]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Okay, Than it's simple to state you are taking things too far with the thread. No one really gave a damn probably until you sparked this up.

Actually you're wrong, it bothers a lot of Era players. You guys just come in to our sub-forum and act like you guys know what's going on era.


Here's the fact: you don't know ****. If you don't play Era and witness what is truly going on, then don't give us your input.

I speak for most of era's players when I say this: We don't need your opinion on something that you have little to no knowledge of.


So, like Torque says, "**** off"


Thanks

[Crono]

ya guys, leave eraqis alone while they burn chris flags and blow eachother up~

[kia345]

This is the most I've ever posted in a thread without getting banned