Bushes/Shrubs

Dumdumdidi · #1 08-07-2010, 05:59 PM

Did a bush/shrub that can be tiled in the tileset editor recently. Thought i'd post it up to gather some comments

Comes in summer, autumm, meadow,forest colours
Critique and Comment please, and no using without written permission

cbk1994 · #2 08-07-2010, 06:06 PM

They don't look like bushes. They look more like counters. I wouldn't have guessed they were bushes if you haven't said it.

Cloven · #3 08-07-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

They don't look like bushes.

From left-to-right, they look like blocks of compressed (moss, thatch, turf, yard clippings).

Over all it looks more like some sort of personal shading/texture exercise.

Elk · #4 08-07-2010, 06:26 PM

They totally fit with a modern themed server.

DustyPorViva · #5 08-07-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk

They totally fit with a modern themed server.

Well this is true...

Crono · #6 08-07-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk

They totally fit with a modern themed server.

so true.

Shards-Of-Fate · #7 08-07-2010, 07:25 PM

They look really thick and really manicured. Which I mean, you might see out of a really expensive building. But honestly they need some more leaf definition.

Elk · #8 08-07-2010, 07:56 PM

Wait
Is this for Sims on Amiga?

Demisis_P2P · #9 08-07-2010, 11:27 PM

Probably shouldn't be perfectly rectangular.

Fulg0reSama · #10 08-08-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Probably shouldn't be perfectly rectangular.

This is why along with the texture. I think one of those look like my lounge and sofa color wise, especially the texture.

Dumdumdidi · #11 08-08-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Elk

Wait
Is this for Sims on Amiga?

Nope haha

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

They don't look like bushes. They look more like counters. I wouldn't have guessed they were bushes if you haven't said it.

Well i believe i didn't quite give the right word for it. its a shrubbery thats well maintained. Something you see in city gardens.

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Probably shouldn't be perfectly rectangular.

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Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

They look really thick and really manicured. Which I mean, you might see out of a really expensive building. But honestly they need some more leaf definition.

Yeah they are supposed to be for a more city landscape. I'll work on the definition.

EDIT:

Here's what i got so far, any suggestions?

FaLLChiLD · #12 08-08-2010, 11:00 AM

Looking less plain with some definition to it. Take off that emboss **** and do some pixel work though.

Demisis_P2P · #13 08-08-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi

EDIT:

Here's what i got so far, any suggestions?

What does it look like tiled?

WanDaMan · #14 08-08-2010, 12:08 PM

Don't rotate it

Fulg0reSama · #15 08-08-2010, 08:16 PM

I agree with FallChild above, I also wonder how well this tiles together. But I do see more of a bush in this now than it was like before.

DustyPorViva · #16 08-08-2010, 09:09 PM

FaLLChiLD · #17 08-08-2010, 09:30 PM

sickest tiles to be created

Dumdumdidi · #18 08-09-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD

Looking less plain with some definition to it. Take off that emboss **** and do some pixel work though.

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

What does it look like tiled?

Bad. So i decided to remake it, removing the emboss on the way.

Hows it now? i followed the picture dusty showed, theres now no clear line where the border was before.

Crow · #19 08-09-2010, 01:41 PM

Thing is, your's has an outline. There are no single leaves sticking out or anything like that. Which makes it look boring and undefined. And I don't think the color works well either.

Fulg0reSama · #20 08-09-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi

Bad. So i decided to remake it, removing the emboss on the way.

Hows it now? i followed the picture dusty showed, theres now no clear line where the border was before.

Now It really does look like a sofa.

Demisis_P2P · #21 08-09-2010, 11:11 PM

Whipped this up as an example of how I would go about it.
I started with black as my background color and added layers on top of that.
Each lighter color starts further up.

The top half of the hedge is just the bottom half flipped upwards and lightened a bit, mostly because I'm lazy.
Notice the 'w' and 'm' shapes circled in red. Ideally things that stand out like that would need to be touched up, because they're going to stand out even more when you tile the image.

Also notice how the back edge is rigged instead of being a straight line? Ideally the sides would have the same sort of shape but I didn't bother to make the sides. As for the bottom edge you could add some tufts of color there that match your server's grass tiles so that it blends in better.

Dumdumdidi · #22 08-10-2010, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Also notice how the back edge is rigged instead of being a straight line? Ideally the sides would have the same sort of shape but I didn't bother to make the sides. As for the bottom edge you could add some tufts of color there that match your server's grass tiles so that it blends in better.

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Originally Posted by Crow

Thing is, your's has an outline. There are no single leaves sticking out or anything like that. Which makes it look boring and undefined. And I don't think the color works well either.

K update!

James · #23 08-10-2010, 05:55 AM

looks better. still looks too "plasticy" if you get my drift.

FaLLChiLD · #24 08-10-2010, 11:32 AM

Still too much filtering for me. The image is maxed out in colors xD

edit: Quick color reduction/tweaking (6 colors, compared to full 256 used by OP)

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Contrast is a little high, it's whatever. I think the problem is you're using filters to create detail causing it to have that 'plastic' effect mention in above post. Not even sure if this is intended for Graal/supposed to be pixel art (dunno if you mentioned so) but filters are a bad choice if you're trying to pixel.

Dumdumdidi · #25 08-10-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD

Still too much filtering for me. The image is maxed out in colors xD
Contrast is a little high, it's whatever. I think the problem is you're using filters to create detail causing it to have that 'plastic' effect mention in above post. Not even sure if this is intended for Graal/supposed to be pixel art (dunno if you mentioned so) but filters are a bad choice if you're trying to pixel.

Thanks for the spot.

Reduced the amount of colours without overdoing the contrast. (I dont want too much contrast, since i might be doing this for a modern server.)

All of them have around 9 colours now.

Dnegel · #26 08-10-2010, 07:38 PM

I like it, and the Autumn color looks lovely. <3

salesman · #27 08-10-2010, 07:51 PM

looks better, but unless you're brave enough to use layers (which have close to zero support), these won't work as tiles.

DustyPorViva · #28 08-10-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

looks better, but unless you're brave enough to use layers (which have close to zero support), these won't work as tiles.

Sure they will.

TheRuckus · #29 08-11-2010, 11:34 AM

They look like brackets.

Liberated · #30 08-11-2010, 12:09 PM

ever since this thread starter i kept thinking of this, i have to get it off my mind.

Fulg0reSama · #31 08-11-2010, 12:14 PM

Liberated · #32 08-11-2010, 01:46 PM

To whoever neg-repped me, yeah you're right about the sig, sorry, fixed it.
But monty pyton isn't retarded

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ontopic: It's better with the smaller amount of colors, but it doesn't tile very nicely on the inside.

Dumdumdidi · #33 08-11-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberated

ontopic: It's better with the smaller amount of colors, but it doesn't tile very nicely on the inside.

quite aware of that, i'll try and redo it later to make it tile better.
thanks for the comments people.